Need Help to plan a 46 day trip to Europe in winter
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Need Help to plan a 46 day trip to Europe in winter
We have Booked air tickets From Brisbane to London in December. We will be Flying back from Copenhagen To Brisbane in January. We are 2 Adults and 2 daughters (14 and 10)
We will be spending with Freinds in Denmark and Norway later part of our holiday.
We have about 30 days mainly to cover preferably Spain, Germany, Switzerland and Austria. May be few days in Paris and Venice.
Can experienced travellers Please provide some ideas to form an itinary.
Form of travel Eurail, Busabout or hire car? We have driven in both Left and Rihgt hand.
Once We have decided the Form of travel and route I will post specific questions to get details.
Any help is appreciated.
We will be spending with Freinds in Denmark and Norway later part of our holiday.
We have about 30 days mainly to cover preferably Spain, Germany, Switzerland and Austria. May be few days in Paris and Venice.
Can experienced travellers Please provide some ideas to form an itinary.
Form of travel Eurail, Busabout or hire car? We have driven in both Left and Rihgt hand.
Once We have decided the Form of travel and route I will post specific questions to get details.
Any help is appreciated.
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Wow, sounds like a incredible trip! London, Vienna, Salzburg, Paris, and Venice are all wonderful cities. The West End shows and the museums in London are great. I think your girls will really enjoy seeing a matinee performance of Wicked at the Apollo Victoria Theatre and then you can take them to see the fab fashion and jewelry exhibits at the Victoria and Albert Museum. A ride on the London Eye is lots of fun, and then after your "flight" you can walk across Westminster Bridge to see Big Ben, and then if you walk past BB and around the back of the Royal Treasury Bldg., you'll see the Churchill Cabinet War Room Museum, which your girls might think is pretty cool because they'll learn what it was like to live underground during the war. If you enjoy quality mother and daughter shopping time, Covent Garden is lots of fun. Cool jewelry and plenty of places to eat. I think you'll enjoying visiting the Christmas Markets in Germany and Austria. My favorites were in Nuremburg and Salzburg. Venice is just magical. I don't recall the name of it, but there is a shop just on the edge of San Marco Square where you can watch the glass blowers. I think your girls will enjoy seeing Degas's ballerinas at the Musee d'Orsay in Paris, riding to the top of the Eiffel Tower, and taking a river cruise along the Seine. The Musee Rodin was my favorite museum. It's in a gorgeous old hotel with a lovely garden. There's a fun flea market at the Porte de Vanves on Saturdays and Sundays. I highly recommend taking a day trip to Giverny to see Monet's breathtaking garden and house and to Versailles. I haven't been to Spain or Switzerland yet, so I can't offer any help about those stops on your trip. Bon voyage!!
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We have been touring Europe constantly since 2006 ( plus Turkey & Morocco) and I can say without a doubt the VERY BEST way for extended family travel is by Motorhome!
You don't have to pack & unpack and it is amazing how quickly you all adapt to the space. There is not a city or site in Europe that does not have a campground nearby and many of them are very luxurious resorts ( indoor pools, gyms, zoos, good restaurants etc) and open all year round.
Most are by mass transit with top security and one can always use a hotel if you are in the mood for a change. It is easy to take short cuts by using overnight luxury cruise ferries like between Barcelona and Rome or cargo ships like one between UK and Sweden or UK and France or Spain etc.
Check out our webite for ideas and names of campsites in the cities that you decide on:
http://www.soultravelers3.com/soultravelers3.html
This post is also helpful:
http://www.transitionsabroad.com/pub...n_europe.shtml
You can also fly off ( cheap flight to say Venice or something) or rail off to a destination as we have many times.
Since you are going to be in UK and Scandinavia for the cold, rainy weather, I would head to the southern regions and enjoy the sun and ideal weather as it is much nicer to tour that way. Won't be hot any where in Europe most likely, but Costa del Sol and Algarve will be your warmest bets as many N Europeans are snow birds there in RVs.
Think Provence, Pompeii, Portugal, Granada, Seville etc with lots of wonderful ancient civilization learning for the kids.
Good luck and have a ball! We are traveling now ( in Barcelona headed towards Cinque Terra) so I don't know when I will be online again if you have further questions, but you can always email me via my website soultravelers3.com and I will answer as I can.
You don't have to pack & unpack and it is amazing how quickly you all adapt to the space. There is not a city or site in Europe that does not have a campground nearby and many of them are very luxurious resorts ( indoor pools, gyms, zoos, good restaurants etc) and open all year round.
Most are by mass transit with top security and one can always use a hotel if you are in the mood for a change. It is easy to take short cuts by using overnight luxury cruise ferries like between Barcelona and Rome or cargo ships like one between UK and Sweden or UK and France or Spain etc.
Check out our webite for ideas and names of campsites in the cities that you decide on:
http://www.soultravelers3.com/soultravelers3.html
This post is also helpful:
http://www.transitionsabroad.com/pub...n_europe.shtml
You can also fly off ( cheap flight to say Venice or something) or rail off to a destination as we have many times.
Since you are going to be in UK and Scandinavia for the cold, rainy weather, I would head to the southern regions and enjoy the sun and ideal weather as it is much nicer to tour that way. Won't be hot any where in Europe most likely, but Costa del Sol and Algarve will be your warmest bets as many N Europeans are snow birds there in RVs.
Think Provence, Pompeii, Portugal, Granada, Seville etc with lots of wonderful ancient civilization learning for the kids.
Good luck and have a ball! We are traveling now ( in Barcelona headed towards Cinque Terra) so I don't know when I will be online again if you have further questions, but you can always email me via my website soultravelers3.com and I will answer as I can.
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A motor home is great in the summer, but no use in the winter when OP will be visiting. Even if they can hire an insulated and heated camper there will be very few sites open where they can stop. Driving it in the snow, a real possibility in Germany, Switzerland and Austria is also not a clever idea for people not used to snow. Plus it gets dark early, they have long evenings stuck in a camper on the edge of a town or miles from a town with girls. No not a good idea.
Even in Spain it can get very cold and snowy unless you are right in the south, where it can still be cold and wet.
Even in Spain it can get very cold and snowy unless you are right in the south, where it can still be cold and wet.
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This might be stating the obvious but when we took our children (who are similar ages to yours) to Europe last year we tried to stay at least 4 or 5 nights in each place (which also allowed us to rent apartments so we could occasionally cook) but also tried to mix up rural and urban places. Many of the most famous places in Europe to gravitate towards are the big cities but getting out in the countryside is fantastic. Our children also loath being cooped up in a car so the trains worked really well for us. One of the best things we did was have a rule of 'if you can't carry it you can't take it'. You'll find that more challenging traveling in winter but worth striving for if you can.
Spain is a long way from Germany, Switzerland and Austria so you'll need to factor that in and perhaps fly that leg. We found the budget Spanish carrier Vueling to be very good. Unless you are really keen to see something of Spain I would be inclined to plan to visit there another time. You're already covering a lot of ground.
Playing devil's advocate though, you could argue that Spain shows a very different side to Europe but if you were going there I would plan to stay a couple of weeks at least. Seville, Granada and Cordoba would be popular choices.
How I wish it were us going again!
Spain is a long way from Germany, Switzerland and Austria so you'll need to factor that in and perhaps fly that leg. We found the budget Spanish carrier Vueling to be very good. Unless you are really keen to see something of Spain I would be inclined to plan to visit there another time. You're already covering a lot of ground.
Playing devil's advocate though, you could argue that Spain shows a very different side to Europe but if you were going there I would plan to stay a couple of weeks at least. Seville, Granada and Cordoba would be popular choices.
How I wish it were us going again!
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