Me and My Dog in Europe
Nov 15th, 2005, 03:23 AM
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Hi Mike !
I'm trying to plan a Christmas vacation in Paris with my 4 lb poodle ( yes, I'm a sterotypical single nyc female with a froo froo dog and I love it!). I was wondering if you could tell me where I CAN"T bring her in Paris. ( tourist attractions, etc.). Also if you could recommend an inexpensive hotel in any of the 3,4,5,6,7 arrondisements. Thanks and take care!
I'm trying to plan a Christmas vacation in Paris with my 4 lb poodle ( yes, I'm a sterotypical single nyc female with a froo froo dog and I love it!). I was wondering if you could tell me where I CAN"T bring her in Paris. ( tourist attractions, etc.). Also if you could recommend an inexpensive hotel in any of the 3,4,5,6,7 arrondisements. Thanks and take care!
Nov 15th, 2005, 04:58 PM
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From our many travels in France with our dog, the biggest Paris no-nos are churches, large museums and supermarkets. However, if your little darling is carried in a nice bag, you may very well be able to take her into some forbidden places. Taking your companion on the metro or buses is no problem as long as your dog is kept in a carrier.
Re hotels, I suggest you also consider the "poodle arrondissement" aka the 16th. The Hotel du Bois is charming, located just off the elegant Ave. Victor Hugo with its shops, restaurants, cafes, etc., where you and your dog will both we welcome. The most recent Trip Advisor reviews of the hotel have been quite positive. Rooms about 100 euros per night, including breakfast, although there are specials from time to time with lower rates (however, it's a very popular hotel and books up quickly). It's a delightful area to stay in, whether it's your first trip to Paris on your zillionth.
http://www.jpmoser.com/hoteldubois.html
P.S. I am assuming, of course, that you've made arrangements for your poodle to travel in the cabin with you both ways. If so, you should both have a nice trip. But I would NOT take your pet with you if it has to travel in cargo. And I'm also assuming you've gone ahead and gotten the microchip, etc. so that your pet can travel to Europe.
Re hotels, I suggest you also consider the "poodle arrondissement" aka the 16th. The Hotel du Bois is charming, located just off the elegant Ave. Victor Hugo with its shops, restaurants, cafes, etc., where you and your dog will both we welcome. The most recent Trip Advisor reviews of the hotel have been quite positive. Rooms about 100 euros per night, including breakfast, although there are specials from time to time with lower rates (however, it's a very popular hotel and books up quickly). It's a delightful area to stay in, whether it's your first trip to Paris on your zillionth.
http://www.jpmoser.com/hoteldubois.html
P.S. I am assuming, of course, that you've made arrangements for your poodle to travel in the cabin with you both ways. If so, you should both have a nice trip. But I would NOT take your pet with you if it has to travel in cargo. And I'm also assuming you've gone ahead and gotten the microchip, etc. so that your pet can travel to Europe.
Dec 18th, 2005, 02:53 PM
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Mike,
Sorry, I forgot to ask something else. I ask which airline you took Ella on because I thought most if not all airlines only accept service animals which would aid a disabled person. I am under the impression that just because an animal is certified as a Therapy or Companion animal, does not entitle the animal to the same rights as a Service animal. So, how did you do that?
Sorry, I forgot to ask something else. I ask which airline you took Ella on because I thought most if not all airlines only accept service animals which would aid a disabled person. I am under the impression that just because an animal is certified as a Therapy or Companion animal, does not entitle the animal to the same rights as a Service animal. So, how did you do that?
Dec 18th, 2005, 05:34 PM
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I'm not sure, but I think I read somewhere that Mike writes articles for one of the airline magazines. That's probably how he got Ella aboard! Anyhow, his book is wonderful - I loved it.
About dogs riding in the cabin of airplanes - if you are Gloria Estafan, it can be arranged! The local TV news in Miami had a little piece showing Gloria walking in the airport with her bulldog, and then him sitting beside her in a first class seat to New York.
He looked very well-behaved - better than alot of children on planes!
About dogs riding in the cabin of airplanes - if you are Gloria Estafan, it can be arranged! The local TV news in Miami had a little piece showing Gloria walking in the airport with her bulldog, and then him sitting beside her in a first class seat to New York.
He looked very well-behaved - better than alot of children on planes!
Dec 18th, 2005, 05:58 PM
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Mike's dog Ella is a service dog of some kind - that is how she was able to ride in the cabin; otherwise only animals that can fit in a carrier under the seat go in the cabin - the others go in baggage.
Dec 18th, 2005, 07:29 PM
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travelnut, Ella is not a special need dog if you read the book. She's one of those special loving dogs who visits nursing homes and other disabled people but that doesn't given them the special oprivilage to fly in coach, though I wish it did.
Dec 19th, 2005, 06:03 AM
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"...Author: mikeyandella
Date: 03/25/2005, 06:52 pm
Thanks, all, for your interest in Ella and her travels in Europe. Let me answer some of your questions. . .
<i>PLANE: As a <b>certified service animal</b>, Ella traveled in the cabin of the plane (and slept on her own green travel mat). In her younger days, she traveled domestically in a cargo crate, and I don't think that option should be categorically dismissed for short flights. But I wouldn't do it all the way to Europe...."</i>
Nope, she's a service dog according to the owner.
Date: 03/25/2005, 06:52 pm
Thanks, all, for your interest in Ella and her travels in Europe. Let me answer some of your questions. . .
<i>PLANE: As a <b>certified service animal</b>, Ella traveled in the cabin of the plane (and slept on her own green travel mat). In her younger days, she traveled domestically in a cargo crate, and I don't think that option should be categorically dismissed for short flights. But I wouldn't do it all the way to Europe...."</i>
Nope, she's a service dog according to the owner.
Dec 20th, 2005, 09:08 AM
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later in the thread(and in the book), he said that Ella was a Certified Therapy dog. Besides, I was under the impression that no matter how the dog was resitered/certified that if the dog wasn't helping the handler that the dog couldn't go on the flight. I'm just wondering how he got Ella in the cabin being that he isn't disabled and Ella wasn't helping him personally during the flight.
Dec 22nd, 2005, 04:52 AM
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We move to Switzerland in 7 days and are taking our lab. United Air says all we need is proof of rabies vaccination less than a year old and a health cert that is less than 10 days old. Our local vet (who had never done this and is getting their info on the 'net) is freaking us out becuase they are saying 90 days wait period for blood work, European chip, etc etc. An advice?
Thanks
Thanks
Dec 22nd, 2005, 07:09 AM
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Silly questions that need answers:
I am taking a solo trip to Paris in Spring and I am considering taking my 8 lb Angel with me. From what I have read, the carrier has to fit under the seat. Realistically this would only enable dogs with short stature if you wanted to humanely transport them with leg room. Angel is a bolognese and is small but leggy. Are there requirements for carrier measurement sizes? I would want to put her in the largest carrier possible to give her leg room.
#2: From Chicago to Paris it is approximately an 8 hour flight. If she travels in cabin and I have checked through security, do they allow me to take her somewhere just prior to boarding to allow her to do her thing. We have the luxury of on flight bathrooms she won't. She will not go to the bathroom in a carrier.
#3- Will they allow me to take her out of the carrier and hold her on my lap during the flight?
I am taking a solo trip to Paris in Spring and I am considering taking my 8 lb Angel with me. From what I have read, the carrier has to fit under the seat. Realistically this would only enable dogs with short stature if you wanted to humanely transport them with leg room. Angel is a bolognese and is small but leggy. Are there requirements for carrier measurement sizes? I would want to put her in the largest carrier possible to give her leg room.
#2: From Chicago to Paris it is approximately an 8 hour flight. If she travels in cabin and I have checked through security, do they allow me to take her somewhere just prior to boarding to allow her to do her thing. We have the luxury of on flight bathrooms she won't. She will not go to the bathroom in a carrier.
#3- Will they allow me to take her out of the carrier and hold her on my lap during the flight?
Dec 22nd, 2005, 09:09 AM
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If your dog is trained to 'go' on pads, you can take her in a restroom prior to boarding. Otherwise, there would be no outside place to to without going thru security again.
I am fairly certain you are not 'allowed' to remove the dog from the carrier while in-flight, but perhaps a blind eye is turned, if your seatmates do not object.
I am fairly certain you are not 'allowed' to remove the dog from the carrier while in-flight, but perhaps a blind eye is turned, if your seatmates do not object.
Dec 22nd, 2005, 11:21 AM
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dear Parisnow
Re:your dog on your flight. Better check NOW and see if they allow any dogs on an overseas flight in the cabin. This has changed and many airlines only allow them in cargo.
I found this out after booking our flight on Alitalia. I decided againest taking my 5lb terrier since being in cargo would be very stressful for him.
And if they do allow you to take the dog in the cabin there are requirements for the crate. The dog must be able to turn around in it. I think you should check with your airline asap for their specific requirements.
Good luck.
Re:your dog on your flight. Better check NOW and see if they allow any dogs on an overseas flight in the cabin. This has changed and many airlines only allow them in cargo.
I found this out after booking our flight on Alitalia. I decided againest taking my 5lb terrier since being in cargo would be very stressful for him.
And if they do allow you to take the dog in the cabin there are requirements for the crate. The dog must be able to turn around in it. I think you should check with your airline asap for their specific requirements.
Good luck.
Dec 26th, 2005, 01:51 PM
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It would make things easier if you get a sleeping pill for dogs from your vet. Give just enough to make your pet drowsy. That way, your pet wont' have to suffer through the plane ride trying to get out of the carrying case. When I was on the plane 2 years ago traveling domestically, I had a flight attendant who was really mean, and she absolutely refused to let my dog pop her head out of her bag. My dog was crying all the way. It broke my heart and I cried all the way on the plane. Coming home, I gave her the sleeping pill, which I had not given her on my trip going due to hesitation on my part..but she slept like a baby and I was able to open the top of the carrying case slightly to touch her observe her all the way home without having my dog jump out and cry and be detected by the flight attendant.
Keep in mind, that the space under the seat is quite small, and even though I had a regulation-size carrying bag for pets, it still did not fit under the seat without causing considerable discomfort to my dog, let alone the discomfort it caused to my legs. My dog was about 13 lb at the time. Try to get a seat by the window - a lot better than the middle seat as far as leg room is concerned. The isle seat is not good - flight attedants and others can get very nosey about what you have under your seat.
From now on, I will only book 1st class for the sake of my pets, as they are more lenient with pets in that section of the plane. Also the space under the seat is much bigger in 1st class.
According to my relative, the primary reason why they can't let your pet out of the carrying case - and why it must be kept under the seat - has to do with health regulation as it pertains to protecting the passengers who may be allergic to dogs and cats.
Keep in mind, that the space under the seat is quite small, and even though I had a regulation-size carrying bag for pets, it still did not fit under the seat without causing considerable discomfort to my dog, let alone the discomfort it caused to my legs. My dog was about 13 lb at the time. Try to get a seat by the window - a lot better than the middle seat as far as leg room is concerned. The isle seat is not good - flight attedants and others can get very nosey about what you have under your seat.
From now on, I will only book 1st class for the sake of my pets, as they are more lenient with pets in that section of the plane. Also the space under the seat is much bigger in 1st class.
According to my relative, the primary reason why they can't let your pet out of the carrying case - and why it must be kept under the seat - has to do with health regulation as it pertains to protecting the passengers who may be allergic to dogs and cats.
Dec 26th, 2005, 06:56 PM
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I still wonder how Gloria Estafan arranged for her bulldog (who was not tiny!)to sit beside her in his own seat in 1st class. I would think the people in first class could be just as allergic as the ones back in economy.
Dec 27th, 2005, 08:25 AM
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Yes, I paid about $50 to bring my dog on to the plane. I believe it's a lot less crowded in 1st class so less people who would complain. In my experience, sometimes I was the only "real" passenger in 1st class and all the other seats were occupied by off-duty employees of the airllne - but you wouldn't know it unless they told you.
