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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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March trip to Germany...Suggestions?!?!

My wife and I just booked plane tickets to Hamburg for late March.

We will be arriving in Hamburg on the afternoon of Friday March 23rd. We will then be picking up our rental car and driving to Stade.

I have relatives in Stade so we will be staying with them until Monday.

Monday morning the plan is to drive to Munich and stay there until Friday March 31st.

That Friday morning we will be driving back to Hamburg and staying there until we fly back to Chicago on Monday morning.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to places to stop along the drive from Stade to Munich? We are open to spending a night somewhere along the way.

Anything having to do with wine, beer, castles, and such would be up our alley.

Don't feel you need to limit it to one place either, a few pit stops along the way would be great!

How about any places we must see that are in the vicinity of Stade while we are there?

We can't wait to go to the Hamburg Dom Spring Fest as well!

Thanks in advance.

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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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deessel,

Endless possibilities. A couple of suggestions would be Gottingen and Bamberg (or both). Rothenburg would be a smaller, more touristy place - but worth it. (I would choose Bamberg for the beer). Good luck.
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Regensburg is worth the trip--it's Germany's largest medieval town, and since it wasn't damaged during the war it's in great shape.
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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be sure to stop in at the gourmet store off the main tourist square---Dahlmyer's-- you will love the wine assortment and other foodie type goodies! City tour with stop at art museum was our best time spent--catch tour near main train station and department store-Hertie's--we love Hotel Torbrau in Munich if you need a suggestion and some of the most enchanting hotels are located in Rothenburg on the Tauber
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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kygogirl:

The city tour and the gourmet store...are you referring to Munich or Hamburg?

Any hotel suggestions for Munich, Hamburg and Rothenburg are appreciated as well!

thanks again...
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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yes---all comments relate to Munich except the Romantic Hotel Markusturm in Rotenburg which is our #1 selection
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Ditto to Regensburg - it was a magical city.
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Bamberg gets my vote. It's not nearly as touristy as Rothenberg or Regensburg and has much better beer! It's a beautiful little town that suffered no physical damage from the war. They have their own website. Take a look!
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Goslar is too far north to get the same exposure as cities in Bavaria but it has a very nice downtown with half-timber houses and a middle ages feel. It is one of the most walkable cities that I visited in Germany.

I was stationed in the north and we often used Goslar as a stopping place along the way when traveling south.

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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Another vote for Bamberg - charming Altstadt and amazing rauchbier (smoked beer).
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Another vote for Bamberg. Many wonderful beers, including the aforementioned smoke beer. And the Altstadt is very nice--lots of history in the town as well.
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Old Jan 25th, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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Another option might be a stop-over in Wuerzburg.
A bit larger than Bamberg, it is surrounded by pretty nice wine-country. It features the Feste Marienberg (a castle) and the Residenz (a palace) which displays a remarkable exhibition of works by world famous painter Giovanni Battista Tiepolo. The Residenz is a Unesco World Heritage site, I believe.

Wuerzburg would also be conveniently located just off the A 7 Autobahn leading you South from Hamburg.

That said, nowadays the shortest route from Hamburg to Munich is no longer via A 7, A 3 to Nuremberg (another possible stop-over) and A 9 to Munich. The newly built Autobahn between Magdeburg and Leipzig does not have too much traffic yet and will let you cut over to the East a bit sooner (getting off the A 7 at Hannover, continuing on the A 2 towards Berlin and getting off at Magdeburg). This would allow for a stop-over in Leipzig - or with a short detour in Dresden, which is a gem.

Talking about detours: Personally I also like the route from Hamburg via the A 24 towards Berlin, getting on the A 10 close to Potsdam and continuing South on the A 9. You might consider this route on your way back from Munich. Potsdam makes for a gorgeous stop-over with its huge park around the Sanssoucis Palace and is within an easy day's drive from Munich and only about 2.5 hours from Hamburg.
This route is not that significantly longer than the others and the A 24 is usually not that crowded so you can get some more than decent mileage per hour if you speed up a bit (beware though, there is a pretty long segment near Potsdam on A 24 where the speed limit is at 130 km/h which is strictly enforced).

I might be able to come up with some Hotel recommendations for Hamburg, Munich and Potdamd if you would let me know about a budget or level of comfort.
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Old Jan 26th, 2006 | 04:44 AM
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Thanks for all the info so far.

To start with I think that I am going to concentrate on which hotel to stay at in Hamburg.

As I said previously we will be there for 3 nights. Once we get back to Hamburg I more than likely will be turning the rental car back in.

So those 3 days will be spent using public transport/walking.

A hotel centrally located would be nice. As far as price/comfort... My wife and I aren't too concerned w/ having 4 star accommodations. To that point we're probably looking to spend less than $100 a night. Somewhere in the $75 range would be good.

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Old Jan 26th, 2006 | 05:12 AM
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There is an Ibis Hotel at Hamburg Airport that has rooms available in the time range concerned for € 53.00 - which would even be below your budget.
Advantage: Close to the airport for your flight out. Disadvantage: Public Transport into the city only by bus to U stop Ohlsdorf, from there (advantage: choice between S- and U- Bahn trains) about 20 min. by train to Central Station or approx. 20 min to the area around Gaensemarkt in the other half of city center).

Alternatively, the Mercure Meridian Hotel in the Barmbek district is fairly central, not a bad neighbourhood in general, and has rooms for € 66.00. Cannot say much about this as I don't know the property.

Overall, US$ 75.00 is really cutting it close IMHO, although hotel prices in Hamburg aren't in general exactly high (quite the opposite).

Even the budget Ibis Hotels will be charging more to the most extent.

The info I retrieved came through

http://www.hrs.de

which you might consider checking yourself.
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Old Jan 26th, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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Remember, autobahns in Germany are very fast but usually very boring as far as scenery. Plan to get off to see some of these towns. There will be snow, as well - factor that into drive times. Nuremburg is nice and it may be a good stopping point - 3 hours north of Munich.
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Old Jan 26th, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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>Friday March 23rd
>There will be snow, as well
No snow, don't worry unless you plan on driving into Austria.
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Old Jan 27th, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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HSV:
Thanks for the info. I think we will be staying at the Ibis Airport hotel the day before we fly out.

The other two nights we are thinking about staying either at the Hotel Oper or the Central Hotel.

Are you familiar with either of these two places?

Is the Dom fairgrouds nearby to either?
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Old Jan 27th, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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I only know the location of the Hotel Oper. It is close to the Opera (duh ;-) ), right in the city center, near the nice shopping area around Gaensemarkt.
It is an ugly late sixties/ early seventies building that also houses a public garage and is located opposite the SIDE Hotel Hamburg, a modern design icon that is outrageously priced, but has a decent bar cum restaurant if you like Asian fusion in a minimalist environment. I cannot say much about the Hotel Oper. Its location is pretty good. As I live in the city, I cannot comment on the qualitiy of rooms and I am not aware whether they have undergone renovation at one point or not.
The Dom is just about 2 to three bus-stops away from the Oper. You might even be able to walk there (about 20 min., though, I would guess).

I am not familiar with Hotel Central. I just looked up its address and it appears to be right opposite the Altona train station. This would put you into a position for easy access to the River Elbe at Neumuehlen/Oevelgoenne (about a 20 min. walk away, there must be a bus line, too) from where you could proceed walking on Strandweg if the weather is nice.
The Altona neighbourhood around the station isn't that special to me (others might think different), but you could in fact walk over to my absolute favourite restaurant: Stocker on Max-Brauer-Allee serving delicious Austrian fare in a dressy-casual setting and most charming service.
The Dom would be fairly easily accessible, too: Two stops by S-Bahn to Schlump, change of trains there and one stop by U3 to Feldstr. stop.

I take it that the Hotel Oper is slightly more expensive. I like its location better than the Central. Perhaps you could also look into two more hotels in that category:

The Baseler Hof on Esplanade is a 2 star with a pretty good reputation and in the same rough area as the Hotel Oper.

There is a new InterCity Hotel across Central Station (Hauptbahnhof). This one might be a bit anonymous, but I hear they have complimentary daypasses for public transport with their rooms. It is brand new and is on the nicer side of Hauptbahnhof (not to be confused with the InterCity Hotel Altona at the Altona station), close to shopping around Moenckebergstr and only a stone's throw from the Binnen Alster Lake.
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Old Jan 27th, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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I appreciate the info. I will take a close look at the InterCity Hotel Hauptbahnhof. It would be nice to be centrally located like that as well as be close to the main train station!

Now on to finding a hotel in Munich!
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Old Jan 27th, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Not much to add. Just consider that driving on a Friday will mean you and many locals will be on the road. Its about 6 1/2 hour drive (490 miles). Rent a car with a GPS system (Suzie).
Enjoy your trip!

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