Manchester Q - Spag Bol?
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The dish - practically unheard of in Emilia-Romagna (but so's spag & meatballs)- is still quite common in British "Italian" restaurants of a certain age.
But in restaurants it's just about always mean and acidy (and STILL sometimes served with that disgusting bought-in grated Kraft Parmesan that smells like vomit). At home - or at chums' homes - it rarely tastes very Italian, but it's almost always got that ebullient, affectionately-made, feel that really is the binding element of all proper Italian food.
In fact, when cooked by Britons of my generation, it's almost as impossible to find bad Spag Bol as it is to find bad pasta al forno in an Italian home.
By definition, of course, you can't find good Spag Bol in a restaurant. A modern big-city Italian might well serve dynamite tagiatelle al ragu - but, while infinitely more authentic, it wouldn't taste remotely like a decent Spag Bol.
But in restaurants it's just about always mean and acidy (and STILL sometimes served with that disgusting bought-in grated Kraft Parmesan that smells like vomit). At home - or at chums' homes - it rarely tastes very Italian, but it's almost always got that ebullient, affectionately-made, feel that really is the binding element of all proper Italian food.
In fact, when cooked by Britons of my generation, it's almost as impossible to find bad Spag Bol as it is to find bad pasta al forno in an Italian home.
By definition, of course, you can't find good Spag Bol in a restaurant. A modern big-city Italian might well serve dynamite tagiatelle al ragu - but, while infinitely more authentic, it wouldn't taste remotely like a decent Spag Bol.
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"most likely with a jar of Dolmio sauce and Tesco steak mince!"
Not in the flannerhome it bloody well isn't.
Brown decent mince (nothing wrong with Tesco's, of course), and a spot of chicken liver, add a battuta till it starts melting, burn off the alcohol in a good slurp of red plonk, add a pint of home-made fresh tomato sauce (and some veg stock) and let it simmer for an hour or so.
If poss, leave it overnight. Add to a pan of pasta the following day in a ratio at least three times saucier than any Bolognese restaurant would dream of.
Not in the flannerhome it bloody well isn't.
Brown decent mince (nothing wrong with Tesco's, of course), and a spot of chicken liver, add a battuta till it starts melting, burn off the alcohol in a good slurp of red plonk, add a pint of home-made fresh tomato sauce (and some veg stock) and let it simmer for an hour or so.
If poss, leave it overnight. Add to a pan of pasta the following day in a ratio at least three times saucier than any Bolognese restaurant would dream of.
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I agree with you flanner, every step of the way (though I've not added the chicken liver, I will bear it in mind for the future).
However, you only have to walk down the pasta/sauces aisle of any supermarket to see it lined with jars and jars of ready-made pasta sauces, Dolmio being a leading brand.
Given the time constraints of day-to-day life, a jar of good pasta sauce (good being the operative word here) can be most useful when there just isn't the time to make your own tomato sauce.
Of course you still use onions and garlic, and add a good splash of red wine to rinse out the jar!
Yes, nothing beats a good spag bol when made from scratch, but an adequate substitute can be made when required.
However, you only have to walk down the pasta/sauces aisle of any supermarket to see it lined with jars and jars of ready-made pasta sauces, Dolmio being a leading brand.
Given the time constraints of day-to-day life, a jar of good pasta sauce (good being the operative word here) can be most useful when there just isn't the time to make your own tomato sauce.
Of course you still use onions and garlic, and add a good splash of red wine to rinse out the jar!
Yes, nothing beats a good spag bol when made from scratch, but an adequate substitute can be made when required.
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For years my mother would chuckle over a sweetly inexperienced young waitress they met in Scotland (in the days when mince and tatties were more commonly available in lots of places), who would always refer to spaghetti bolomayonnaise.
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Well on The Street it was Tyrone, not the brightest knife in the Coronation Street drawer for sure, who was bragging about the spag bol he would make for Molly, his wife. I thought it may be a staple in local restaurants but guess not. It does sound hearty and good in a filling way.
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Spaghetti Bolognaise, outside of Italy, consists of a meat sauce served on a bed of spaghetti with a good sprinkling of grated Parmigiano cheese. Although Spaghetti alla Bolognese is very popular outside of Italy, it never existed in Bologna, where ragù is served always with the local egg pastas tagliatelle or lasagne.
jamikins - i have had lots of Spahetti Bolognaise out of a can - very common here.
jamikins - i have had lots of Spahetti Bolognaise out of a can - very common here.
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It has to be made with good quality mince though.
I can't stand those chewy crunchy bits you get with cheap mince, and all the fat that runs off... eeeeewww!
I buy the best steak mince I can, and still run it through the food processor to grind it further so it doesn't cook in lumps.
And ALWAYS freshly grated parmesan.
I can't stand those chewy crunchy bits you get with cheap mince, and all the fat that runs off... eeeeewww!
I buy the best steak mince I can, and still run it through the food processor to grind it further so it doesn't cook in lumps.
And ALWAYS freshly grated parmesan.
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Spag Bol is perhaps the standard, basic, first thing a young man might be able to cook without poisoning everyone (for an older generation, it would have been shepherd's pie). It's a signifier that Tyrone isn't as sophisticated as he thinks he is.
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Where do you find good Spag Bol in Manchester?
Sainsburys in Wilmslow buy a bottle of Brunello Di Montalcino and an "own label" basics Spag Bol. Instructions....
1. Open bottle
2. Drink all contents of bottle
3. Open packet of Spag Bol
4. Put in microwave for anywhere between 4 and 20 minutes doesn't matter
5. Put contents of packet on plate
6. Eat the best Spag Bol in Manchester
That's what why Fodor's exists - you will find Spag Bol on Corrie but not Brunello.
Inside information wins everytime.
Sainsburys in Wilmslow buy a bottle of Brunello Di Montalcino and an "own label" basics Spag Bol. Instructions....
1. Open bottle
2. Drink all contents of bottle
3. Open packet of Spag Bol
4. Put in microwave for anywhere between 4 and 20 minutes doesn't matter
5. Put contents of packet on plate
6. Eat the best Spag Bol in Manchester
That's what why Fodor's exists - you will find Spag Bol on Corrie but not Brunello.
Inside information wins everytime.

