Música Española: getting to know Spain through her music.
Aug 29th, 2009, 12:05 AM
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Kim these are real gems. She is unreal.
She sounds somewhat like Arcangel in that verdiales..What do you think of him?
I have to agree with you about the women. Although remember now that Fernanda was still alive when I went into my flamenco hibernation in approx the early 1990s. I was I was still listening to old old LPs & my newer stuff cassettes (hahaa) were of Fernanda & Bernarda. I never used the computer until 2004 or 5, so almost everything that has happened subsequently is a brand new discovery.
The discovery of flamenco on You Tube was like having a birthday or Christmas.
Funny, I cannot carry a tune if my life depended on it, but like you pick up on the desafinados. I have noticed tarantos especially it is so common to hear them momentarily fuera de tono and almost seems intentional at times..have you noticed that?
I will certainly share this Rocio too with my Southern California friends. I thank you again you made my night.
She sounds somewhat like Arcangel in that verdiales..What do you think of him?
I have to agree with you about the women. Although remember now that Fernanda was still alive when I went into my flamenco hibernation in approx the early 1990s. I was I was still listening to old old LPs & my newer stuff cassettes (hahaa) were of Fernanda & Bernarda. I never used the computer until 2004 or 5, so almost everything that has happened subsequently is a brand new discovery.
The discovery of flamenco on You Tube was like having a birthday or Christmas.
Funny, I cannot carry a tune if my life depended on it, but like you pick up on the desafinados. I have noticed tarantos especially it is so common to hear them momentarily fuera de tono and almost seems intentional at times..have you noticed that?
I will certainly share this Rocio too with my Southern California friends. I thank you again you made my night.
Aug 29th, 2009, 02:30 AM
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I have found it most interesting to study the music from the roots level, the traditional songs in Fiestas in small villages. First we visited the big festivals like San Mateo wine festival (Logroño, La Rioja), Valencia fiesta of the Fallas (fantastic!), the Holy Week (Semana Santa) and April Fair festival in Seville, Saint Fermin in Pamplona etc. Nowadays we prefer the fiestas in small villages.
The ongoing San Tirso Festival in Potes and Ojedo (Cantabria) and the Festival of Moors and Christians in small villages in Andalusia or Valencia are charming in many ways, but the spontaneus singing of traditional songs in these fiestas is something very special. I take music rather seriously, but each time I am charmed with these songs and the local people singing.
I might add the Orujo festival in Potes to this same category of charming and intimate fiestas. You really feel like part of it all unlike in some bigger fiestas.
You will find a few articles about some of the fiestas from here:
http://www.travelinginspain.com/spai...als/orujo.html
On the sidebar there are links to other fiestas.
The ongoing San Tirso Festival in Potes and Ojedo (Cantabria) and the Festival of Moors and Christians in small villages in Andalusia or Valencia are charming in many ways, but the spontaneus singing of traditional songs in these fiestas is something very special. I take music rather seriously, but each time I am charmed with these songs and the local people singing.
I might add the Orujo festival in Potes to this same category of charming and intimate fiestas. You really feel like part of it all unlike in some bigger fiestas.
You will find a few articles about some of the fiestas from here:
http://www.travelinginspain.com/spai...als/orujo.html
On the sidebar there are links to other fiestas.
Aug 29th, 2009, 08:02 AM
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Yes Cathym also mentioned she prefers the smaller festivals.
and if you search under her name there are several comments.
I have looked online quite a bit and have found some listing b date but still I would love one huge ist by date & region.
This is the closest most comprehensive I found so far:
http://gospain.about.com/od/spanishf...Film_Music.htm
But in my case the Granada Music festival and the bienal are still calling...
and if you search under her name there are several comments.
I have looked online quite a bit and have found some listing b date but still I would love one huge ist by date & region.
This is the closest most comprehensive I found so far:
http://gospain.about.com/od/spanishf...Film_Music.htm
But in my case the Granada Music festival and the bienal are still calling...
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:26 AM
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hip hop/flamenco fusion. it's a great sound - more contemporary but v spanish...try it
biography from w/pedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mala_Rodr%C3%ADguez
youtube clip (there are loads)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqXg68pYxsM
biography from w/pedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mala_Rodr%C3%ADguez
youtube clip (there are loads)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqXg68pYxsM
Aug 31st, 2009, 07:21 AM
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Interesting.
Hard for me to enjoy this. But this thread is not about what I personally enjoy rather about spanish music & getting to know Spain through her music. (I actually like certain american rap styles, but have a strong negative reaction to anything that deals with drugs. Yes I know she is not condoning it rather telling it like it is. But I just don't want to see it on a video.)
As far as getting to know Spain through her music, though not originated in Spain this style is certianly now part of the fabric of the country. You are right it has fused or absorbed many musical styles.
Thanks for sharing this portuense.
Hard for me to enjoy this. But this thread is not about what I personally enjoy rather about spanish music & getting to know Spain through her music. (I actually like certain american rap styles, but have a strong negative reaction to anything that deals with drugs. Yes I know she is not condoning it rather telling it like it is. But I just don't want to see it on a video.)
As far as getting to know Spain through her music, though not originated in Spain this style is certianly now part of the fabric of the country. You are right it has fused or absorbed many musical styles.
Thanks for sharing this portuense.
Sep 1st, 2009, 07:14 AM
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pleasure - not a drug fan either but i really like the edgy stuff; there are a few compilation cds around which are full of excellent crossover stuff. one is Flameco Fusion, another is called something like Flamenco Chill In Chill Out - that's a two CD set and has hardly a bad track. You'll laugh at the one about Zapping, the Spanish phenomenon which is cruising the TV channels with your remote (zapper)...though of course it's a universal pastime
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:41 PM
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Yes I understand. Funny zapping...I have heard the slang here & there too.. "fashon" to mean stylish.."flipiando"...I guess to mean flipping out etc.
And now with text messaging the words in any language well don't get me started..
And now with text messaging the words in any language well don't get me started..
Sep 2nd, 2009, 04:13 PM
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As we are approaching the harsh contemporary scene, I was reminded of my bar favourite during those San Sebastián study days in the mid 90's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t78MjM9kuv4
And, Manu Chao's (Basque and Galician parents) wonderful "Clandestino" in the tapping of José Mercé (yes, he's appologized): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV2GnCkT5aI
And, Manu Chao's (Basque and Galician parents) wonderful "Clandestino" in the tapping of José Mercé (yes, he's appologized): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV2GnCkT5aI
Sep 2nd, 2009, 05:03 PM
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This (Maldito Duende) should keep the flamencos among us on our toes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlT9P...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlT9P...eature=related
Sep 2nd, 2009, 07:41 PM
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This is very interesting. I'm saving the links to watch and listen later. This music is very new to me, but I totally appreciate the idea of knowing a place through its music. I will be visiting Barcelona next month (first time in Spain.) We are seeking out some good music venues.We've been referred to Palau de Musica, but all that is playing that week is Jazz it looks like. While we love jazz, we are looking for something more indicative of local culture and history. Can you point us anywhere? Thank you.
Sep 3rd, 2009, 08:36 AM
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hanabilly,
Although flamenco is first and formost Andalucía and Madrid, many of the best artists frequently visit Barcelona. Besides, both traditionally and now, some of the best flamencos come from Barcelona/Catalunya. On the 4th and 6th of October, two of the best cantaores (male flamenco singers) perform in Barcelona. A great happpening on the 4th when the huge José Mercé presents his new album in Gran Teatre del Liceu.
http://www.liceubarcelona.com/cms/index_ct.htm
Two days later the wonderful "El Lebrijano" sings at Teatro Coliseum to the dance genious Pastora Galván. And, as Gabriel García Márquez says: "When Lebrijano sings water gets wet".
In the same theater, from late September to the beginning of November, Sara Baras - the world's most famous flamenco dancer - is dancing "Carmen".
http://www.grupbalana.com/teatro.asp?ID=169
You should also experience the Sardana (catalan folk dance) in front of the Cathedral on Sundays at noon. Jacob Lubliner writes:
"... at noon on Sundays, they collect in front of the Cathedral to watch Catalans young and old (mostly old) engage in the mysterious ritual of dancing the sardana.
Mysterious? James Michener, whose Iberia (1968) was for many years the leading American reference on Spain, seemed to think so.
"One Sunday morning,” he wrote, “as I was walking through the Gothic Quarter... I heard the lovely sound of rustic pipes and muffled drums. I could have been in a woodland except that the cathedral rose above me, and as I entered its plaza I saw that several hundred people... had gathered about two orchestras...” After a somewhat inaccurate description of the “orchestras” (with a reference to “five country oboes”), Michener goes on: “As I was watching the fiscorn players, for I had not before seen this instrument, a strange thing happened all around me. A moment ago the Catalans in the plaza had been listening to the sardana; now, without anyone’s having given a signal, large circles had formed, containing men and women of all ages down to eight years old, so that the entire plaza was covered with people silently performing the folk dance that accompanies the sardana. I was astonished at how quietly this had happened, for there were at least eleven of these large circles, some with thirty members, and the dance was vigorous and beautiful, yet how it had started I couldn’t say.” And further: “I found that if I took my eye away from the plaza for even one moment, I missed the beginning of this strange dance... I was determined to see who gave the signal for this dance, so on several occasions I kept my eyes glued to a fixed spot where experience had told me a circle would be formed. One moment, not a sign of dancing. Then a girl, unaccompanied by any boy, sedately placed her purse on the flagstones. Nothing happened. Then a boy carefully took off his jacket, folded it and placed it atop the purse. Within seconds a dozen purses, jackets, walking sticks and coats were piled neatly in that spot, and around them the Catalans, strangers one to the other, began their slow sardana. More than anything else this strange beginning resembled the process by which ice forms across the surface of water; now it is fluid; now it is crystallized; the dance has begun."
http://www.ce.berkeley.edu/~coby/essays/sardana.htm
Although flamenco is first and formost Andalucía and Madrid, many of the best artists frequently visit Barcelona. Besides, both traditionally and now, some of the best flamencos come from Barcelona/Catalunya. On the 4th and 6th of October, two of the best cantaores (male flamenco singers) perform in Barcelona. A great happpening on the 4th when the huge José Mercé presents his new album in Gran Teatre del Liceu.
http://www.liceubarcelona.com/cms/index_ct.htm
Two days later the wonderful "El Lebrijano" sings at Teatro Coliseum to the dance genious Pastora Galván. And, as Gabriel García Márquez says: "When Lebrijano sings water gets wet".
In the same theater, from late September to the beginning of November, Sara Baras - the world's most famous flamenco dancer - is dancing "Carmen".
http://www.grupbalana.com/teatro.asp?ID=169
You should also experience the Sardana (catalan folk dance) in front of the Cathedral on Sundays at noon. Jacob Lubliner writes:
"... at noon on Sundays, they collect in front of the Cathedral to watch Catalans young and old (mostly old) engage in the mysterious ritual of dancing the sardana.
Mysterious? James Michener, whose Iberia (1968) was for many years the leading American reference on Spain, seemed to think so.
"One Sunday morning,” he wrote, “as I was walking through the Gothic Quarter... I heard the lovely sound of rustic pipes and muffled drums. I could have been in a woodland except that the cathedral rose above me, and as I entered its plaza I saw that several hundred people... had gathered about two orchestras...” After a somewhat inaccurate description of the “orchestras” (with a reference to “five country oboes”), Michener goes on: “As I was watching the fiscorn players, for I had not before seen this instrument, a strange thing happened all around me. A moment ago the Catalans in the plaza had been listening to the sardana; now, without anyone’s having given a signal, large circles had formed, containing men and women of all ages down to eight years old, so that the entire plaza was covered with people silently performing the folk dance that accompanies the sardana. I was astonished at how quietly this had happened, for there were at least eleven of these large circles, some with thirty members, and the dance was vigorous and beautiful, yet how it had started I couldn’t say.” And further: “I found that if I took my eye away from the plaza for even one moment, I missed the beginning of this strange dance... I was determined to see who gave the signal for this dance, so on several occasions I kept my eyes glued to a fixed spot where experience had told me a circle would be formed. One moment, not a sign of dancing. Then a girl, unaccompanied by any boy, sedately placed her purse on the flagstones. Nothing happened. Then a boy carefully took off his jacket, folded it and placed it atop the purse. Within seconds a dozen purses, jackets, walking sticks and coats were piled neatly in that spot, and around them the Catalans, strangers one to the other, began their slow sardana. More than anything else this strange beginning resembled the process by which ice forms across the surface of water; now it is fluid; now it is crystallized; the dance has begun."
http://www.ce.berkeley.edu/~coby/essays/sardana.htm
Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:39 PM
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Thank you so much for the reply. I will miss the singers you mentioned, but this gives me a good starting point. Sadly, I will be there only 4 days (Nov. 7-11) so I am going to see if we will be able to catch Ms. Baras. What a treat that will be!
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Sep 6th, 2009, 07:30 AM
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Since we have gone to a modern dirrection,
this group known as "Navajita Platea" is founded by flamencos who have chosen to go off the traditional path. Flamenco, jazz and rock all influence the sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwryj...eature=related
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99IzXAQlwz4
this group known as "Navajita Platea" is founded by flamencos who have chosen to go off the traditional path. Flamenco, jazz and rock all influence the sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwryj...eature=related
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99IzXAQlwz4
