London, Paris, and Brussels 2014

Nov 19th, 2013, 12:15 PM
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PQ - they asked for something in the center not out in Eltham.

Plus your B&B is £30 for a single. So still barely w/i their budget and there is all the extra travel time/cost.

So sure it is an option - but w/ the extra transport not in their $100 budget.
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Nov 19th, 2013, 12:26 PM
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The question then becomes - are there any hotels or hotel websites you recommend for the trip? We would like to be in the heart of both cities and close to the main attractions. The budget would be around $100/night.>

OK my mistake - agreed not practical in central London. Sorry about my miscue!
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Nov 19th, 2013, 12:33 PM
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PQ - does your £30 b&b have a name?
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Nov 19th, 2013, 12:40 PM
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yes it does but I do not know it - have not been there in two years - run by an elderly lady - there were a string on them though and all about the same price. I do have the name some place - I found it thru the Greenwich Tourist Information web site - they list many in tha price range in greater Greenwich, of which Eltham is a part.

Think it had some "Villa" in it - it was 22 pounds (Continental breakfast - 25 quid with full English) so I bumped u the price to 30 pounds now.

I stayed there for several years - one old lady died and another took her place - the first old lady fed a pet fox - lots of fozes in London neighborhoods! - really friendly and in a nice area - I tire of central London where tourists seem to outnumber locals so love staying the the burbs - right next to an Overhead rail station - Eltham or is it New Eltham.

but for a first-time traveler to London I would stay in central London too though I probably could not afford that any more.
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Nov 19th, 2013, 12:45 PM
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Plan your open jaw according to your plane tickets cost. One can take the train from London to Paris or Brussels. Either London-Paris-Brussels or London-Brussels-Paris would work. The question remains: which city has the most desirable (cost and convenience) flight back home?
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Nov 19th, 2013, 12:55 PM
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PQ has been recommending this elusive B&B for many years on here -- I don't think he's ever told us the name (even when the visit wasn't two years in the past)

But he keeps trotting it out - suggesting it to folks on a budget.
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Nov 19th, 2013, 01:07 PM
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<<...leaves me way under the 100 pound mark...>>

But the OP was looking for under $100, a significant difference.
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Nov 19th, 2013, 01:21 PM
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I don't wish to hijack this thread but it's important to note that in 2013 £30 would barely get the most basic of b&bs in very few places in the UK. In London, with fancy extras, such as an indoor toilet and hot and cold running water, you would easily double that.

£30 isn't what it was.
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Nov 19th, 2013, 01:27 PM
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sofarsogood . . . most of us realize that

£30 won't get a 2 star B&B in the hinterlands let alone in London.

But jeeze -- I stayed in a fabulous hotel in central London for £7 double . . . in 1975
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Nov 19th, 2013, 01:28 PM
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But the OP was looking for under $100, a significant difference.

This was the cost of our stay in London: We used Airbnb for our July 7 to July 11 London stay which cost us $385. It was in a new apartment building near the Limehouse Basin.
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Nov 19th, 2013, 03:19 PM
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Honestly, I just threw the $100 out there, so don't be limited by that. We don't have a set budget. We just want somewhere comfortable to stay (not a hostel). I would say moderate priced hotel in the heart of the city. We are saving by going in Feb., so we can spend more on the hotel.

Sorry about the confusion!!
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Nov 19th, 2013, 03:33 PM
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>>I would say moderate priced hotel in the heart of the city<<

That honestly does not help us. We asked for your budget and you said around $100 a night. Now you say ignore that. One person'r 'moderate' is the next person's cheap/expensive/whatever. So - before anyone can give you useful recommendations we really do need to know a number.

$150/€110/£90 (still pretty low)? $250/€180/£150? something else?
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Nov 19th, 2013, 03:34 PM
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>>I would say moderate priced hotel in the heart of the city<<

That honestly does not help us. We asked for your budget and you said around $100 a night. Now you say ignore that. One person'r 'moderate' is the next person's cheap/expensive/whatever. So - before anyone can give you useful recommendations we really do need to know a number.

$150/€110/£90 (still pretty low)? $250/€180/£150? something else?
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Nov 19th, 2013, 03:35 PM
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>>I would say moderate priced hotel in the heart of the city<<

That honestly does not help us. We asked for your budget and you said around $100 a night. Now you say ignore that. One person'r 'moderate' is the next person's cheap/expensive/whatever. So - before anyone can give you useful recommendations we really do need to know a number.

$150/€110/£90 (still pretty low)? $250/€180/£150? something else?
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Nov 19th, 2013, 03:41 PM
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I would say max $250.

I apologize for not being more specific. I don't know how much rooms cost in Paris and London since I have never been there.
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Nov 19th, 2013, 07:06 PM
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Well, if you change your mind and do give Brussels a go ... if you want to save money, go on a weekend, because hotel rooms are substantially cheaper as the politicians and hangers-on have all gone home for the weekend. And another tip - most holiday-makers stay near Central, which is safe and in walking distance of most of the attractions. However, instead there are better bargains to be had in the district close to the EU institutions (again, on the weekend). It's a little bland in attractiveness (think modern architecture) but safe, and there is an excellent metro system servicing that area. Metro stops to look out for are Trône, Arts-Loi, Maelbeek and Schuman.

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Nov 20th, 2013, 01:25 AM
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If you do decide to go to Brussels, a friend just told me about this;
http://www.cookandbook.be/

Lavandula; have you been there? Looks amazing. Site only in French, alas.
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Nov 20th, 2013, 05:28 AM
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PQ has been recommending this elusive B&B for many years on here>

I have never recommended that exact B&B but I think it is good info to alert folks that there are indeed typical British B&Bs in greater London that are a short Overground train ride away for 25-30 pounds - great price for a single traveler - so janis can malign me and call me a liar but I will continue to say that such options exist - janis I guess does not realize that there are a bevy of such places in greater London - I suggest she get out and discover that indeed there are such places and they are a viable option for folks on a budget and who want to experience a real B&B.

I only present information, based on personal experiences, the more options and info the better.

There are zillions of such B&Bs ringing central London - I would suggest airb'n -

https://www.airbnb.com/

I've looked and there are zillions of B&Bs listed in London itself - I suggest janis take a look and inform herself that these do exist to clear up her doubts that they do.
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Nov 20th, 2013, 07:13 AM
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Ok, let's skip the debate on PalenQ's ephemeral B&B and get serious.

If you're talking $250/night, then you're going to be fine. But you don't need a HOTEL in London. London is shot full of short term rental apartments and you can find one easily for less than 150 quid. Check http://www.aplacelikehome.co.uk/ and google for its competitors. Paris has the same situation, it's easy to find rental flats.

Do NOT use airbnb in a foreign country where you have no recourse if something fouls up unless the lessor has a track record of excellence a mile long (e.g., 20+ rave reviews, cross-checked on trip advisor, etc.).



You really need to hit the books. You're talking about cities the size of New York and Chicago, there is no SINGLE heart. Similarly, cities in Europe have not conveniently packaged all their main attractions in one area.

Paris is arranged by "arrondissements" and any of 4, 5, 6 will do fine as a central location with good transit options; 2 and 3 may work as well depending upon exact location: http://www.planetware.com/map/france...-map-f-f20.htm

In London, there are various neighborhoods that will be convenient. This may be useful for London: http://www.offtolondon.com/where_to_stay.html. Basically, you want to stay within the area encompassed by the Underground's Circle Line, or close to it. Check out londontown.com for a good map that includes the Tube and streets in one.

You will also need to know how to use the Tube and Metro. And for London you MUST check out www.daysoutguide.co.uk for huge discounts (London has many admission-free attractions, but those that are not free admission have substantial entry fees and saving 50% is quite useful - would you rather pay $65 for the two of you to visit the Tower, or $32+?) and buy a 7 day paper travelcard at a national rail station (e.g., Waterloo, Victoria). Bring a passport-size photo for the card. DO NOT BUY A LONDON PASS.

< I don't know how much rooms cost in Paris and London since I have never been there.>

Ok, but $100 won't get you a decent hotel in the center of any US city, it's not going to be better for Europe.
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Nov 20th, 2013, 08:06 AM
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In defense of PalenQ, one can find rooms for less than $100 per night within London. I found one on airbnb, described in my trip report that starts in Lyme Regis.
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