I did not use the term "city limits." You did. At 4:02 yesterday.

<b>In the <i>very</i> broadest terms, La D&eacute;fense <u>is</u> in the &quot;center of Paris&quot; (<i>n.b.</i> that is not the same as &quot;within the city limits.&quot</b>

I was just playing with Mincepie and Christina's definition of &quot;broadest&quot; and &quot;very broadest&quot; to the extent that if you define &quot;very broadest&quot; appropriately, <u>any</u>thing can be included.

We started out with &quot;into the center of Paris.&quot; I cited the point. Mincepie and Christina determined that &quot;center&quot; included more than a point. So I concluded that if you can use whatever definition you choose for &quot;center,&quot; then it can be said that La D&eacute;fense is in the center, as well.

I don't care If you don't get it. Just don't misquote me.

Take the RER to get in and out of Paris if your Paris destination is near one of the Line A stations. If it is closer to a Line 1 station, take Line 1. Line 1 is slower, but it has more stations and is thus closer to more destinations.

Be advised that both lines are extremely crowded during rush hours, and La D&eacute;fense is as quiet as a tomb after business hours (quiet enough to be spooky, in fact, particularly in the subway stations).

And indeed there are above ground SNCF commuter trains serving La Defense - to Gare Saint-Lazare and to Versailles. And then there is the tram that could be very useful for going between La Defense and places along the Seine like the Eifel tower (tram interchanges with RER line C) - probably just need one metro ticket for this route but not sure.