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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 06:42 AM
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PILGRIMS' WAY

Another fabled footpath (and at times narrow road) in Kent is Pilgrim's Way, over the course that pilgrim's once took from the London area to reach Canterbury, then one of medieval Christianity's most hallowed shrines.

The Wikipedia post talks about Ordnanace Survey Maps - these are available at any book store, tourist office, etc. and are a necessity for hikers and bikers as every footpath and minor track, etc. are shown.

Pilgrims' Way - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On the Pilgrims' Way near Trottiscliffe, Kent ... Ordnance Survey. Southampton, England: Ordnance Survey, p 64. ISBN 0319004988. ^ North Downs Way National ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrims'_Way
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 06:53 AM
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OOPS - HIT THE WRONG WIKI POST OR WHATEVER - THESE WILL SHOW PILGRIMS' WAY IN KENT


FAQs - North Downs Way - National Trails

The Public Rights of Way Teams in Kent and Surrey look after the
physical ... The Pilgrims Way is the alleged route that Pilgrims took from Winchester to ...
http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/north...q.asp?pageid=7

The Pilgrim's Way: a short walk to Canterbury
The Weald of Kent stretched out below us, dotted with small farms and oast ... There are pubs all along the Pilgrims' Way, but few of the publicans know ...
www.csj.org.uk/bull-arts/p-white-art.htm

Imageilgrims way trosley.jpg - Wikimedia Commons
Imageilgrims way trosley.jpg No higher resolution available. ... Description. View from Pilgrims' Way near Trottiscliffe, Kent. ...
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Imageilgrims_way_trosley.jpg
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Old Sep 3rd, 2008, 12:03 PM
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CANTERBURY

Speaking of Pilgrims' Way leads us, as the Way does itself of course, to Canterbury, once one of Christiandom's holiest meccas for medieval pilgrims and today attracting tourists who make pilgrimages just to see the famous Canterbury Cathedral - seat of the Anglican Church i believe.

Canterbury is a pleasant, if to me rather forgettable town in most way, but the Cathedral and its precincts are worth the effort to come here.

Yet Canterbury is also the main regional commercial town for a wide swathe of Kent and the High Street is perpetually mobbed with shoppers and tourists - especially French school kids coming here for short sojourns it seems.

Besides the Cathedral there are remains of the town walls and a neat canal like river with punting boats to rent or ride.

so as all roads and paths once pointed to Canterbury it seems be sure not to neglect this busy market city and its fabulous Cathedral.
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Old Sep 10th, 2008, 12:09 PM
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Canterbury Official Tourism Website

The Official Tourist Guide to Canterbury, Whitstable, Herne Bay provides information about Accommodation, Attractions, Activities and Events to help ...
www.canterbury.co.uk/
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Old Sep 12th, 2008, 07:45 AM
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CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL
Medieval pilgrims would go on long grueling marches just to reach the shrine of Thomas a Beckett, in hopes their prayers would be answered.
The Cathedral, still the seat of the Church of England i believe, is one of the most sublime in Europe - and thus was granted the cherished World Heritage status.

Canterbury Cathedral
Canterbury Cathedral - World Heritage Site. The Mother Church of the Anglican Communion and a fantastic tourist location.
www.canterbury-cathedral.org
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<Then there his "Kent" thread that may be the longest soliloquy in the history of Fodors>

well the longest soliloquay in Fodor's history will continue soon - next up Dover, Royal Tunbridge Wells, Hever Castle, Hastings and Battle (in neighboring Sussex), Leeds Castle, Chilham Castle, Chatham, The Knole and Seven Oaks, the Isle of Sheppey and Rochester, Darwin's Down(e) House, Romney Marsh and more - so much to see and do in such a small area with wonderful public transportation makes Kent a great base for folks not wanting to drive in England.
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Old Sep 15th, 2008, 09:08 AM
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>>>>>blah blah blah Chatham blah blah blah Sheppey blah?>>>

Chathma and Sheppey? What harm have these poor souls done to you that you want to send them to Chavham and Sheppey?
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Old Sep 16th, 2008, 09:40 AM
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<"PQ...keeps telling folks it is easy to get from Kent... to other places">

Janis j: though i said no such thing i could make a case for Kent being easy to get to for:

folks landing at Gatwick Airport, practically on Kent's doorstep with direct trains i believe to Tonbridge and other Kentish towns.

and folks going or coming to London via the Chunnel train - get off at Ashford and you're less than an hour by rail from nearly every Kentish town.

In fact folks departing from Gatwick may wish to end up their British or Continental trips by spending a few days in Kent then taking trains from there right to Gatwick without having to go thru London

Or folks landing in London and heading to Paris or Brussels via Eurostar can train from gatwick to any Kent town with train service then easily hop over to Ashford to get a train to France or Belgium.

So easy to get to depends on what the circumstances are.
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Old Sep 16th, 2008, 09:56 AM
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and folks going or coming to London via the Chunnel train - get off at Ashford and you're less than an hour by rail from nearly every Kentish town.>>>>

They don't stop at Ashford much any more - they go to Ebbsfleet. I'd like to see you describe Ebbsfleet a tourist mecca.
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Old Sep 16th, 2008, 10:34 AM
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Proof that even Brits often don't know as much as some yanks about their own country

Several Eurostar trains a day do indeed still stop at Ashford- during the scaled down service now it's even four a day.
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Paris Nord Eurostar We, 17.09.08 dep 09:07 EST

Ashford(Kent) We, 17.09.08 arr 10:16

Just one Eurostar example Paris to Ashford of several on normal days
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What is this about Brits and the Chunnel trains

1st flanner.uk thinks Ebbsleet is one of the Cinque Ports or someplace near Broadstairs and now CW does not know that Eurostar trains still serve Ashford?

And no Brit seems to know what Chunnel means?

Ah - i guess the Chunnel train goes to Paris and Brussels, well out of their realm of thinking (unless some stooopid soccer match is on or one goes by train to ski vacation in the Alps?
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DOVER AND DOVER CASTLE

Dover is often much maligned at a city and IMO for good reason - it's a rather ramshackle collection of generally tacky buildings in a narrow valley spilling down to the sea.

Yet few English towns are so steeped in history, being the gateway to the Continent and vice versa.

But Dover Castle is one of the most magnificent castles in Europe - and certainly one of the most awesome to look at - its towers and ramparts being literally perched on a cliff overlooking the port, which for centuries it protected.

Janisj no doubt will excoriate me, like she did with Deal and Walmer Castles - see above - for not detailed the enrapturing interior but this is not a thread detailing everything to see in every place - but do go into the castle as its interior is fantastic and the views from up on top of it sweep over the Channel.

Other neat things to do in Dover are to walk along the seafront and out on the long jetty to the lighthouse (last i knew it houses a tea shop) and simply watch the non-stop parade of ferries going to and fro Calais and the Continent.

The still thriving Eastern Docks are the gateway still for many car and freight ferries and still hums - for decades it was the main portal to anyone wanting to escape Britain save for air.

NEXT - CLIMBING UP TO AND ONTO THE FABLED CLIFFS OF DOVER
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Old Sep 18th, 2008, 01:00 PM
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As the Dover Tourist Information Centre says, Dover is, with 15 million annual visitors, one of the most visitted places in England, BUT

anyway folks looking for cheap accommodations will find a raft of them in Dover - from fading hotels on the seafront to basic B&Bs lining the approach roads - and a youth hostel and i think still a YMCA

Dover - Gateway to England
Dover is one of the most-visited towns in England but most of the 15 million ... Dover Tourist Information Centre is on (01304) 205108 and is to be found ...
www.doverpages.org.uk/intro.html
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Dover Castle and the Secret Wartime Tunnels : Kent : South East ...
Explore Dover Castle and revisit the turbulent war years, when the Dover Straits were packed with ships and the skies were filled with enemy planes! ...
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/s...show/nav.14571

Dover Castle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dover Castle is situated at Dover, Kent and has been described as the "Key to England" due to its defensive significance throughout history. ...
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THE WHITE CLIFFS OF DOVER'S UNDERGROUND TUNNELS

If you read the official Dover Castle web site it highlights the Underground WWII Tunnels - a labyrinthic series of tunnels that extend for miles

Long ago when i climbed up onto the cliffs themselves several times these tunnel openings were left in a decaying state and it was possible to walk into them if you had a flashlight of course

and i explored into them - WWII relics were strewn about, etc.

I wonder if anyone knows if access of this type is still possible - i would assume that now they may be closed off - for safety reasons if not because you must pay at the Castle now to explore them - and as the Castle web site says only 1000 people on guided tours are allowed to tour these rather, to me at least, mysterious things - so arrive early in busy times to do this very unique thing IMO
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Javelin High-Speed Commuter Trains to Kent

If doing a day trip to Kent from London there is a newly opened rail service from London's St Pancras station to Ashford International, which has great rail links to practically every place of interest in Kent - Canterbury, Dover and all the places practically mentioned above. Ashford is now about 40 mins from London vs well over an hour on the older slower commuter trains - making day trips easier for those within easy striking distance of St Pancras station.

These 'Javelin" trains run over the same route as the Chunnel or Eurostar trains to France or Belgium - going up to about 140 mph. www.nationalrail.co.ukfor schedules and prices, etc.
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go wash your mouth out, Pal - you wrote the "C" word again.

great info though.

regards, ann
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Cut and paste. Cut and paste......

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It seems that there are a few weeds battling right in the middle of "The Garden Of England" these days
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