PalenQ

But basically all you see is what is happening in Paris because the information is much more visual.>

Seems more violent too - or are they burning cars and trashing buildings and national monuments all over? Why did all the museums close> Because workers couldn't get to work or staff on strike or why?

menachem

Meanwhile, yesterday, a huge demo against climate breakdown, also in Paris, 10s of 1000s of people. No media attention.

menachem

Because of danger to the property and to visitors.

Macross

Green vest for the climate. I didn't see any of those but plenty of yellow vest. We are getting ready to go out, headed for the 1st.

kerouac

I added new photos to my report of the yellow vest demonstrations. Here is the result of yesterday's protest, starting at reply #40.

Battening down the hatches on the Champs Elysées | Any Port in a Storm

At the same time, there was a much bigger demonstration in another part of Paris about climate change. Totally peaceful.

AJPeabody

I hope these demonstrations, which I see on BBC America since the US TV reports are solely about Trump and massacres, remain localized in extent. Our flight tickets to Paris are non-refundable and we are not particularly attracted to the Champs Elysees. Maybe they will burn themselves out by September, although either the BBC or EuroNews reported that the domos include "a thousand professional demonstrators." This is a profession in France? Does it pay well?

Macross

I missed France 24 last night but read all this in the daily mail. At least they cover and had some good pictures. My Longchamp store that I shop at. I do like their purses. I am a bit peeved they torched the newsstands It this an evil side group of the yellow vest? The looting is not right. Of course cheeto is saying it all has to do with the Paris accord. He must have heard that on Fox and friends. Glad the green vest were peaceful.

Envierges

Just curious. Is your news reporting at all on the above mentiioned climate demonstration at Opera yesterday with crowds estimated between 40,000 and 100,000 depending on the source, where absolutely nothing happened

AJPeabody

Not a word. If it bleeds, it leads. If it burns, it earns. If you fear, you hear. Then they run commercials.

kerouac

At least it was on the domestic French news but unfortunately not given as much coverage as the Champs Elysées crap.

Macross

I am getting fed up with news in general. Why don't they cover the news? I am tired of the hours spent on cheeto. I wanted to know about the boeing max plane. I read online about Frnace keeping the black box, not trusting the US to handle it or Boeing. Nothing reported about that. I wanted to know who won the 6 nations Rugby game. They played the France/Italy game but not the Wales Ireland game. Stupid coverage. I watch BCC as \much as I can and BCC radio does well with Brexit coverage.
Thanks for the pictures K.

StCirq

Thanks for this, kerouac. Does make us want to steer clear of Paris, though we hardly ever set foot anywhere near the Champs Elysées...

We are limited here with TV channels, but BBC and AlJazeera are our go-tos.

dlejhunt

So sad; seeing the destruction of some of the places that I have shopped in and walked by many times. I want to understand more about this; who is doing this (or, what factions of the GJ are doing this), what are they so angry about, and why don't the police intervene at the first sign of violence?

I will be in Paris in two weeks. I've not been hesitant at all about being in the city until after seeing this weekend's events. We'll stay away from any riots, for sure, but wonder if this will lead to other, unexpected violence in more remote areas of the city. We tend to avoid the touristy spots but there will be some shopping; will have to be smart about that.

In any case, the trip is paid for, so we're going.

kerouac

The "problem," if you can call it that, is that the French police have orders to protect lives over property, so they will never shoot looters or vandals. I understand that the policy is different in certain major countries. And every single injury of the demonstrators or even "black bloc" members has been denounced by just about every political party as though the government had unleashed official assassins or hooligans to keep order,. And yes, they also accuse the government of promoting the destruction of property by not stopping the vandals by any means necessary. There may be a sort of contradiction here.

AJPeabody

dlejhunt

Ah, the fallacy of inconsistency. Probably not the only logical fallacy inherent in the arguments surrounding this issue. Thank you, Kerouac.

apersuader65

Then it seems that the arson cases could have been cases of shots upon the protesters, IMO. You burn a bank at ground floor where numerous regular citzen's apartments are above, you're tantamount to committing attempted murder.

kerouac

There was indeed some fake news on social media claiming that the burning of Fouquet's was caused by police grenades. Perhaps you have some more specific documented information that you would like to share with us.

PalenQ

Does not matter whose grenades hit Fouquet's IMO - the protesters caused them to be used and Fouquet's not being able to board the shop up, etc. But more likely that demonstrators caused it - attacking symbol of rich people. Why would police being carrying life grenades - that was not a real war just a bunch of protesters who aim was to wreak havoc. Anarchists seem to have taken over the Parisian weekend battles.

kerouac

Yes, the most annoying thing is that France is a country with a population of 67,000,000 and the yellow vest protestors have numbered about 30,000 in recent weeks (down from an original total of about 200,000 at the beginning). Embedded in the 30,000 there are about 1,500 anarchists who are getting all of the attention, of which far too few being arrested.. It has been announced that starting next week, the police are going to use new methods... Wait and see.