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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 07:58 AM
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You know what? There isn't a place in Europe I wouldn't enjoy seeing again...sorry to be so positive! This includes rememberances of wonderful trips to Greece, Italy, Spain, Scandinavia, Ireland, British Isles, plus stops in a general European tour. OK, I realize that some places had drawbacks...like Athens with traffic congestion where we had our wallets swiped.

But I'm not anxious to return to Israel given the present hardliner rule
(yes, I know it is complicated), but would love to revisit Egypt and Jordan.

As for Texas? I vote with the negatives on this one for various reasons. Sorry. Elsewhere in the U. S. is mostly OK except if pulling a trailer through a congested city. Actually, many big cities like Los Angeles, Madrid, Rome do have urban congestion problems.

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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 08:12 AM
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The deserted beach in Eleuthera where I ran smack into a black-tipped shark! And while I'm on that subject, the beach in Virgin Gorda where my husband and I were badly stung by Sea Wasps!
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 08:51 AM
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stcirq,

To be fair, it's been 12 years since my trip to Marrakech. Im glad to hear that things have "improved".

What did you mean by the "politically correct vacation" remark? Am I missing some sarcasm? I am known throughout the Universe (under a different name of course) as the MOST politically INCORRECT life form.
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 09:17 AM
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I wonder how a Myth of how citizens of a certain city, or a country started...?
Normally every myth has a small amount of true in it.

It is presumptuous to generalize the behaviors of people living in a certain city, just because we spent fews days or weeks there.

When I made the comment of New Yorkers in general, my observations were basically made of my every day living, shopping and mingles with people there.

I did not live in the city of NY, but in the State of New York for almost 4 years.As I said earlier my two older children were born there.

I am a very adaptable person, my husband retired from the AF after 20 years and I have lived in Europe, NY, Europe again, Taipei, Honolulu, louisiana, California and Texas..As you see I am used to different people or race..

However, to be fair NY was my first residence in the USA.
I was very young back then. I saw perhaps too many Americans movies were the people were so Friendly and I had high expectations..who know...I should give the state another chance..maybe the people are different now..





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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 09:21 AM
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For me it would be Atlanta.I had to go there on business, and found the downtown to be boring, and a little threatening. I'm sure there are some interesting neighborhoods, but Atlanta would be way down on my list of places to revisit.
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 09:27 AM
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There's no place in the world I wouldn't give a second chance. I want to see as much of the world as possible and, of course, there are places I have enjoyed more than others.

That said, I'm in no hurry to return to Jerez del la Fronterra (Spain), Cabo San Lucas (Mexico), or Kortjik (Belgium). Found them all quite boring.

BTilke - I think Tat is off licking her wounds. She was recently spanked for her rudeness. Perhaps she'll come back and play nice. Perhaps she won't.
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 09:45 AM
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Have to agree with NYtraveller and StCirq: - I went to NY expecting everyone to be rude, yet was amazed by the friendliness of everyone I met.
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 09:53 AM
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Wow, this thread sure illustrates the truth in "One man's trash is another man's treasure"!

For me......Disneyland.
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 10:34 AM
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Naples - never again!

By the way, I LOVED Germany!
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 03:27 PM
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On the subject of New York City, we met wonderful cabbies, friendly people on 5th Avenue, nice merchants. All the things we had heard about rude NYers proved to be wrong for us...we were quite pleasantly surprised. The same held true for Paris...not a mean-spirited person did we encounter. But I am not naive enough to believe they don't exist in NYC, Paris, or anywhere for that matter. There are jerks everywhere, just as there are normal, decent human beings everywhere.
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 05:56 PM
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It's always seemed to me that when an entire city is unfriendly then it's time to change MY attitude. Since people usually respond to people as people are to them.
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 06:10 PM
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Just my own opinion here, but I have always enjoyed stays in Germany, Austria, and the UK. France has enough rude people to start their own country, and Italy is the Mexico of Europe. But Greece wasn't too bad. Except for Athens - bleh!
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 07:31 PM
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There is no place in the world as wonderful, and diverse, as Texas. Beaches, gorgeous hills, plains, mountains, lakes, wonderful cities and small towns, VERY nice and DOWN TO EARTH people, lots of "class", artistic talent, and on and on. We travel a lot both in US and overseas and there is usually SOMETHING good EVERYPLACE! Some places are better than others of course, but if one doesns't like a place it is often their own fault.!or their own "narrow attitude"!
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Old Jan 30th, 2004, 07:56 PM
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I think of New Yorkers as kind've like rottweilers. They've got a mean bark and they can tear you to shreds. But you catch 'em in a good mood and reach out to pet 'em on the back of the head, and they nestle right on up to you. Just as friendly as a good old labrador.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 01:37 AM
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I don't know how this turned to a Texas conversation but I was shocked at how nice San Antonio is. I thought it would just be a big cactus next to the Alamo. The riverwalk blew me away - it's all about expectations.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 02:07 AM
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GREECE: Because of the taxi drivers in Athens. We stood on the street for an hour in the hot sun before one would stop. I also found the people to be harsh and unfriendly.
Playa del Carmen, Mexico: the tourists that come there love to drink, party, play cards and sit in their chairs drinking, partying, playing cards. Fine for them but I don't find them interesting. Also the town feels like a fake movie set with a tourist area about 3 blocks by three blocks and at night all the tourists go there for dinner and drinks and I saw the same people night after night. I felt like cattle in an enclosure.
Chaing Mai, Thailand: I expected it to be a charming small town and it was big, polluted, busy, and when we would start to cross the street the cars would actually speed up. Consquently we didn't enjoy walking around town.
Bali: I think the people are wonderful, the culture and sense of community fascinating, the arts exquisite and the rice fields beautiful but I never feel comfortable there or able to really relax and I've been there 4 times and I hope my last. It's just an energetic thing.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:08 AM
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Good question. Years ago I managed a small sports lodge. Every year I had certain customers return like swallows. Every year I had guests leave after a day and then write us complaining letters. I used to post these letters in my advertising. To paraphrase Mr. Barnum; "It is not possible to please all of the people all of the time.". Bitching and grousing need be specific/objective rather than general/subjective. Telling us that locals are rude is general. Telling us that all locals smell bad is specific. Most tourist destinations have high seasons and low seasons.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:57 AM
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I think there is nowhere I would NEVER return to, but there are a few that are lower on the totem pole than others.

I have to go back and forth to Brussels and like it a lot, the more I get to like it.

I've never been to Texas, but am convinced I'd love Big Bend.

There's good and bad everywhere; keep your eyes ears and mind open and you'll have a good time anywhere.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 12:44 PM
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I haven't been anywhere that I've actually hated.

Each to his own, but I don't understand why Germany is getting such a bad rap. We have met many very nice people there and we've enjoyed every town that we visited.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 01:51 PM
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The Gulf Coast of Alabama.
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