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Old May 20th, 2006, 04:28 AM
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I rented a house in the South of France. Feel free to ask any questions.

Tittle self-explanatory; would love to answer any q's.
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Tell us about it in your own words.
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Yes please tell us the particulars.

Where exactly...what city or town, South of France is big area...narrow it down a bit.

How big was it? For how long did you rent it for? How much was it.

Would you do it again and if not why not?

Did you find this on the internet? If so could you paste the web site in here so we can go look at it?
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Old May 20th, 2006, 08:16 AM
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Taken from the trip report posted some days ago:
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We have just returned from our second trip to the South of France and it only validated and confirmed all the wonderful reasons why I feel in total abandonment when I am in this region. The sounds, the smells, the sights; it was all there magnified by the spring season when nature starts flaunting its most flattering colors.

We had talked about a house in a rural location; one that would allow us to be within day trip driving distance to the coast as well as to some Provence towns and villages. At least four people to accommodate and, (this is the kicker…), it needed to be handicap accessible. While my husband can manage small distance walking, he uses a wheelchair for long distance and/or when in need to stand for an extended period of time. After some research, which included frequent pulling of hairs (mostly mine), we decided the area around Montauroux and the Lac of St. Cassien (Pays des Fayence) met the location requirements. Next task was to choose a reputable outfit for house rental. This is when Fodor’s posters came to the rescue having browsed and found many glowing recommendations for holiday-rentals.com. Their website is easy to navigate and I was able to send out 7-8 inquiries to home rental owners with properties that met our requirements. All of these owners responded to our inquiries within 48 hours, which I found kind of impressive (or maybe I am just not used to good customer service….?). Of those, I should mention that the owner of two of the properties listed informed us that his properties were not really handicapped accessible, but insisted on the delightful location and overall facilities. This reply really annoyed me and I forwarded the e-mail to the managers of the website. Within 24 hours the claim of handicap accessibility had been taken out of the properties website information.

We settled for an olive farm located 2 kms. from Montauroux, Les Chenes de Vilaron (holiday-rentals.com property ID 11712). A restored 18th Century farm, it consisted on a 4-bedroom, gorgeous place, with a contiguous fully handicapped accessible studio (website Property No. 11470). The price, around $1589/week, included all utilities, cleaning, linens, satellite TV, a gorgeous pool, grill, pizza wood oven, and many amenities for 8-10 people to be perfectly comfortable. The owners were a delight to work with and we are happy to recommend them wholeheartedly.

We flew into Nice the day before and stayed overnight at the Hotel Regence, about $80/double. Located on a pedestrian section of Old Nice, the location is tough to beat. Their customer service was also very good and we are definitely glad to thank the recommendation as well as giving this place thumbs up, way up. A side note on parking on Place Massena if you have a wheelchair-bound passenger: don’t. This parking establishment has an obvious superb location, but it is tough, tough to get in/out and there are other parking lots nearby, much easier to navigate. I guess I should be fair and further characterize my strong opinion of this place as “only if you must” instead….. A special recommendation for La Coupoule restaurant and its outstanding Pizza. We saved our appetite for Provencal cuisine for the week ahead and were not disappointed whatsoever.

The next day we drove at a comfortable pace to Montauroux and got situated on the rental property. By the time I stepped out of the car and the cool breeze and early evening sounds reach my brain, I had already surrendered to the visual feast of colors, the smell of ancient olive trees, and the tranquility that was all around us.

A week went by filled with day trips to nearby hilltop medieval perched villages; Callian, Tourettes, Fayence, Seillans, Tennaron. We also drove to Cannes, St. Tropez, Monaco, Aix en Provence, Nimes. You may be already thinking “a lot of windshield time”, and you would be right. This is called compromising in marital lingo. My husband is a superb driver and roads explorer; I get to pick the general direction. Driving for him is therapeutic, which is the reason I am more than happy to oblige. Many an afternoon found us sipping a local wine in a street café on a sleepy village watching the afternoon (and locals) go by. I built on that week some of the best memories I’ll be carrying around the rest of my life and feel blessed beyond belief for it.

I couldn’t possibly go over every detail of our sightseeing and meal we had in France. I’ve seen trip reports that do that and I believe that is a bit too much. Travel should be discerning and an amalgam of memories thrown together as a pile of facts is boring, even unfair at some levels. That is why I have chosen to lay it out for you as highlights; pick and choose what you would like to hear more about and I’ll be glad to answer any questions with plenty details, if that is how you would prefer.

* We may have lucked out beyond belief; while our travel took place during the first 10 days of May, a.k.a. full blown springtime, the weather was unparallel; sunny, mild, and dry. This translated to summer weather for shoulder season prices. Magnifique.

* We used Avis car rental. If you already have a reservation, go to the Avis counter located in the parking car lot, don’t use the inside counter at Nice Airport as it takes longer. A side note: the trunk in the car originally assigned to us was not big enough to accommodate the wheelchair and at least one bag, so AVIS upgraded us for free. They will get my business again.

* PayPal accounts are gaining popularity for the payment of overseas rental properties transactions. It does eliminate the wiring bank fee (average of $30-35 per transaction), but there may be an added risk. Your call.

* If staying at Hotel Regence, which I recommend, bare in mind they are located on a pedestrian zone. If you have a car, park it and then head out to the hotel. Place Massena is the closest parking lot (24Euros/day), however, Regence is a sister hotel with Hotel Massenet. Parking at Massenet is available for Regence customers for a nominal fee (15 Euros/day).

* Tons of eateries around Hotel Regence. Head towards Cours Saleya down Rue Massena for choices galore and burn up the calories by walking back along the Promenade Des Anglais. Perfect loop.

* Tahiti Beach in St. Tropez was a bit of a disappointment. We had visited this beach in early June 2004 and found it to be a gorgeous beach with a nice seaside restaurant at reasonable prices. Not the case at all during our early May visit; while we believe the beach unkept appearance was due to been early in the season, the restaurant’ out of sight prices are here to stay. Too bad.

* If you think you need to avoid Monaco for being too touristy, think again. It is too touristy; it is also a very interesting, gorgeous, fabulous place to visit. Do not miss.

* Montauroux is a small village with amazing local restaurants. The restaurant Le Marina got our business a couple of nights and, invariably, we would be talking about the meal an hour after it ended; the wine, the salads, the décor, the locals, the entrees, the service.

* Morning markets are a must if traveling around Provence. For approximately 20 Euros we stocked up on fresh vegetables, fruits, and spices which we prepared and feasted on during that evening’s meal. This was all accompanied by grilled meats, exceptional regional wine, and the best ice cream I ever had. No kidding. I sat there after the first spoonful and could not fathom how a country gets to be this exceptionally good when it comes to everyday fare. By the way, this is another advantage to having access to a kitchen; these meals, prepared with fresh ingredients, were a nice break and a very economic option to restaurant dining.

* You probably heard the expression “Banker’s Hours” to refer to a lax attitude towards established working hours. We concluded that the term “Butcher’s Hours” corresponds neatly to the French version of this expression. Take a guess how we came to this conclusion…..

* Aix en Provence and Nimes are definitely two great cities to visit. The main promenade in Aix is one of the most beautiful streets I have ever seen-- lined with trees and peppered with fountains. Every corner is a different, wonderful smell; lavender to the right, spices to the left, fresh baked bread everywhere. Lovely beyond belief.

You may have noticed that I have only referred to our traveling companions in the context of group activities. I have done this out of respect for privacy. I must say however, that the company of these friends was one of the things that we most enjoyed of this trip and could only hope that our company was half as enjoyable as theirs was to us.

As I said before, ask away on any of this and I will be more than glad to share. It would be the perfect excuse to go back, if only on my mind, to one of the most delightful vacations I have ever had.
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Old May 20th, 2006, 10:27 AM
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This looks like a wonderful property - thanks for posting a very informative report. I'm bookmarking for future reference.
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Old May 20th, 2006, 01:56 PM
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Thanks for the feedback, Yes, the property was beautiful and so comfortable and relaxing. By the way, the studio rental is all inlcuded in the price. It is a great deal when there is somebody in the party who wants independent kitchen and facilities. Again, we all loved this place, the owners were a delight to deal with, and the location was superb.
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Hi! We'll be going to Southern France (Marseille, Nice and Rousillon) in early December. Do you know of any sites which has hands-on activities? The children have seen many European castles, museums and such, so would like to go to more interactive places.

One more thing. I'm very glad to hear of those cheap markets as we're on a rather tight budget. But are there any cheap restaurents around the area? Perhaps 10 euro or less per meal? Or is that too much to ask. My friends have told me that dining in france is really expensive.
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Old Oct 4th, 2006, 02:36 AM
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I am afraid I can not help much on interactive activities for children in December in the cities you mentioned. The beach is the ultimate interactive activity; obviously not an option in December. Winter activities like skiing are your best bet.

As far as the farm markets, I doubt much most of these markets will be up and running in December.

As far as meals under 10 Euros may be possible in the smaller towns. I had a wonderful pizza and soda for about 8 Euros at La Coupoule (sp?) in Nice, but that is about the type of meal. In Le Marina in Montauroux we had the most exquisite meals, small restaurant, they also had great pizza meals for about 10 Euros. To be honest, if I am going to be in France and the food is prepared so well and the ingredients are so good, then I should expect to pay for that. Your best bet on this one is runs to the supermarket and to the butcher (you have an apartment, right?). Have fun!
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Is there enough snow in early December for skiing? Any hope of seeing actual falling snow? 'Cause we stay in a warm climate and would love to see falling snow again.

You mean the open markets would not be open? The last time we went to Austria, the markets were open and we managed to get a lot of cheap and delicious food. And yes, we plan to do mainly cooking as we stay in a resort.

Thanks for the restaurant recommendations
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Old Oct 5th, 2006, 01:42 AM
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trelsc-- the Alps Maritimes has some really nice ski areas, which often also have snowshoes trails, snowboarding, etc... Their high season starts a little later than say Upstate NY, around December 23rd, but still a good day trip if want to do something different.
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Viajerno2, sounds like you had such a wonderful time!

trelsc - please do not worry about the prize of meals etc. We are always on a very tight budget when visiting France and we are still enjoying every minute and return home with wonderful memories and photos! You will find cheap meals if you look out for them - of course not of the high standard of the more expensive meals - but you will still enjoy them! We usually buy from supermarkets and markets and treat ourselves once every second day to a sit down (cheap) meal. On the days we do not "eat out", we at least have a croissant and cafe au lait at a place we can sit down and people watch while enjoying our breakfast.
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So it isn't true that a cup of coffee can cost up to 3 euro and a macdonald's meal up to 12 euro?
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Your trip sounds so wonderful. I was thinking of returning to Rome and Tuscany next summer but maybe we will visit the South of France. Can anyone compare?? We're a couple looking for history/romance and charm, etc...
Thanks. Annealex
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Trelsc, unfortunately a cup of coffe can cost 3 Euro - but if you do some research, you will also find it for 1.5 - 2 Euro. I do not know the prize of MacDonalds but we usually manage to eat a Plat du Jour (Fixed menu for the day) for 10 - 12 Euro per person. Please see the other thread with "budget travel" in the title.

Sorry Viajero for hijacking your thread.

Annealex - I would like to see other Fodorites comments on your question. I think in the end it is a matter of your own preferance. Rome and Tuscany as well as the south of France are rich in history and both have lots of romance and charm. I can still not make up my mind if I love Rome or Paris more but I know now that I like the small villages in the French countryside more than their Italian counterparts. But now I am really referring to relative unknown small villages - not all the popular well-known ones in Tuscany.

Good luck with you decision - if you have not been to the south of France, it might be good to give it a try. You will definitely not regret your decision!
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chiara--- don't even worry about "hijacking" the thread The info you are provididng is great and certainly helpful!

Annealex--- I strongly recommend you look into the South of France at least! The diversity and beauty of the region is breathtaking! I would not compare Tuscany and the South of France, because they are both incredible places to explore. Just alternate!
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Thank you Viajero2! I fully agree with you about Tuscany and South of France.

And now I am back for the last time with prizes of McDonalds in Paris! Remember my sister's child there on a Contiki tour and called her!

trelsc - I think you will be delighted to hear that a Big Mac costs 3.25 Euro in Paris and Big Mac + fries + Coke = 5.25 Euro. And the best - no extra charge to sit down! She was there about 2 months ago!
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Please forgive the typos - too many to mention. I was in a hurry and made terrible mistakes!
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Viajero,
Would you mind telling me exactly where the house you rented is? Where from Montauroux? I'm going to be in the area next week (looking for a house to rent next year) and would love to drive by just to get a feel for the location, view, etc. Thanks so much.
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Old Oct 8th, 2006, 04:57 AM
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fbc34-- the house is located about 2 km from Montauroux village centre. It is located in an area called Les Chênes du Vilaron and it is not easy to find The first time into the rental we met the housekeeper at the Montauroux village square, right across the Office of Tourism. As I recalled from the village square to your right, go up the road, take a left, follow the road, bare to your left and take the first right (if you get to Callian, you went too far). You really can't see the farm from the road, but it should give you general location. The views from that road, as you leave Montauroux and approach Callian are breathtaking.

For photos and details on the house check http://www.holiday-rentals.co.uk/ind...property/11712 and http://www.vilaron.homechoice.co.uk/

The owners live in London and they were an absolute delight to work with, Josh Kutchinsky & Ginette Ashkenazy, e-mail [email protected]. The housekeepers, Rene and Giselle, were also very cordial and helpful. They are available over the phone any time of day.

For details on the area you can e-mail Montauoroux Office of Tourism at [email protected] The lady that takes care of this office lived in Ridgefield Park, New Jersey for many years and was also very helpful.

The house really accomodates 8-10 people very comfortably. Often, you get property owners advertising their homes for 8-10 when it truly is a stretch. This house even has a contiguous studio, fully equipped with kitchen facilities all included in the one price.

Hope this helps.
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