hi all, my husband and i will be travelling to europe for the first time and are planning on staying in amsterdam, brussels, and paris. ive looked into the eurail selectsaver and it seems an option for getting around. my question is, is that the best option and does anyone know if it includes travel within the cities or just from one city to the next? thanks!

Railpasses do NOT include city busses/metro.<BR><BR>You probably will do better with point-to point tickets, but check www.railsaver.com to see.

In general, a rail pass makes sense for traveling salesmen who want to be on a train every day, day in, day out. And maybe for a few itinerary (ill-chosen, in my opinion) itineraries that hop 500 miles from place to place. My advice is to keep your destinations in a tighter circle, as you are already doing. See where you are more, travel around less.<BR><BR>It will cost you twice what the individual tickets will cost, for the small area of Europe you want to travel across.<BR><BR>Check www.railsaver.com to compare how much more a rail pass costs than individual point to point tickets.<BR><BR>And rail passes generally do NOT include intra-city transportation like buses, subways or taxis.<BR><BR>Final item of advice: these three cities are all BIG CITIES. You are missing half of Europe if you never get out into its smaller towns, or even better still, the countryside. Chartres, Ghent or Edam would scratch some of that itch.<BR><BR>Best wishes,<BR><BR>Rex<BR>

thank you liz and rex!! we actually do want to see the smaller cities, we were just planning on overnighting in the big cities and travelling out from there, which is why i was wondering about the eurail passes. i will check into the point to point, the eurail passes were 588 for 2, our plane tix are only 926! so anything cheaper will be nice. thanks again!

Lat year we bought a 5 day train pass limited to three contiguous countries (the Benelux count as one). The cost was $185 per person. Given the distances were were traveling, this was a deal (Vienna to Berlin to Rothenburg to Basel to Munich). All first class, no reservations necessary, although one day we were stuck in 2nd class smoking because the non-smoking sections were full. Check out the cost of individual tickets (France is cheaper in train travel than Germany) and then decide whether a package is better than the individual ticket.

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