Hotel Muguet vs Hotel de Fleurie or other hotel in 6th?
Jul 11th, 2004, 07:09 PM
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There's a picture on the hotel's website that shows a shower and bathtub combination. I think the shower only would be for the smallest rooms usually the single category. I said usually so I don't know if this is true for this hotel.
Jul 11th, 2004, 08:01 PM
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This post caught my eye because I stayed at both hotels on the same trip. 7 days at de Fleurie and 3 days at the Muguet. We loved the location of de Fleurie by a LONG shot. Muguet seemed quiet, larger, and ... mm.. cooler. Hotel De Fleurie was smaller, upscale, and THE BEST location. We were VERY excited being the in heart of all the action.. You are about 3 minutes from the nearest Metro station. A tex mex place across the street. (yep, it really is)
I would be concerned about the size of the room at Hotel de Fleurie. You will pay a lot more for a larger room and 3 people would not be comfortable in the room that my husband and I shared.
On a subsequent trip, we stayed in the 7th arrondisment very near the Eiffel tower (within a few hundred yards of it in an apartment). That was ALSO sensational. But we don't think we want to stay at the Muguet again. It was fine and large and clean. That's about it. If you want me to email you I would be happy to if you leave an email address.
PS. HOpe I didn't repeat what others have said. I didn't read all the posts, just skimmed a few as I have to rush off somewhere. But I wanted to let you know my experieince. (the girls will love the Hotel de Fleurie. Get the bigger room and enjoy yourself.. the convenience would be worth every penny of being there.)
oh.. and it's not so much the lack of night life that I'm thinking about in terms of the area around the Muguet.. it's the people watching that you can do right from the window of the rooms at Hotel de Fleurie. You can step right outside the door and you are on St Germaine BLVD. It's busy and active. Muguet (as I remember it) felt like it was at least 2 blocks from cafe's or shops on the middle of a seemingly deserted block. (I say deserted because it was very quiet and really there were very few people walking in front of it) It just never felt homey to me. It was TOO quiet.
Also, we had breakfast the Hotel de Fleurie every morning in the cellar breakfast room. It wasn't included in the price but we enjoyed the buffet type choices. Simple fruit with bananas, cereals, yogurts, and pastries. Lovely coffee and chocolate. And orange juice. We liked starting the morning that way since we felt uncomfortable not knowing the language we were timid about trying to order from a cafe in the beginning. I understand you can get a great breakfast for much less. For us, it was a lovely memory and we started each day full and ready for PARIS!!
Have a lovely time!
I would be concerned about the size of the room at Hotel de Fleurie. You will pay a lot more for a larger room and 3 people would not be comfortable in the room that my husband and I shared.
On a subsequent trip, we stayed in the 7th arrondisment very near the Eiffel tower (within a few hundred yards of it in an apartment). That was ALSO sensational. But we don't think we want to stay at the Muguet again. It was fine and large and clean. That's about it. If you want me to email you I would be happy to if you leave an email address.
PS. HOpe I didn't repeat what others have said. I didn't read all the posts, just skimmed a few as I have to rush off somewhere. But I wanted to let you know my experieince. (the girls will love the Hotel de Fleurie. Get the bigger room and enjoy yourself.. the convenience would be worth every penny of being there.)
oh.. and it's not so much the lack of night life that I'm thinking about in terms of the area around the Muguet.. it's the people watching that you can do right from the window of the rooms at Hotel de Fleurie. You can step right outside the door and you are on St Germaine BLVD. It's busy and active. Muguet (as I remember it) felt like it was at least 2 blocks from cafe's or shops on the middle of a seemingly deserted block. (I say deserted because it was very quiet and really there were very few people walking in front of it) It just never felt homey to me. It was TOO quiet.
Also, we had breakfast the Hotel de Fleurie every morning in the cellar breakfast room. It wasn't included in the price but we enjoyed the buffet type choices. Simple fruit with bananas, cereals, yogurts, and pastries. Lovely coffee and chocolate. And orange juice. We liked starting the morning that way since we felt uncomfortable not knowing the language we were timid about trying to order from a cafe in the beginning. I understand you can get a great breakfast for much less. For us, it was a lovely memory and we started each day full and ready for PARIS!!
Have a lovely time!
Jul 11th, 2004, 11:41 PM
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Mark,
If you're used to stay in Marriotts, Starwoods, Hyatts etc. I really don't get it why you picked out the simple 2* Muguet for your stay in Paris. You could have known beforehand that this would lead to discontent.
If you're used to stay in Marriotts, Starwoods, Hyatts etc. I really don't get it why you picked out the simple 2* Muguet for your stay in Paris. You could have known beforehand that this would lead to discontent.
Jul 12th, 2004, 05:21 AM
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I don't see how someone who's stayed in chain hotels would know what would have happened at this particular hotel.
Is it a new rule now that if one is used to staying at chain hotels that they can't choose to stay in a small, independent hotel while in Paris?
Is it a new rule now that if one is used to staying at chain hotels that they can't choose to stay in a small, independent hotel while in Paris?
Jul 12th, 2004, 05:49 AM
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Myriam-when you read the extensive literature about vacationing in a foreign land like Paris, one way to experience the culture most is to stay at any of the many Frnch boutique-type hotels. I'm all for trying anything once (or twice). Rick Steves pushes the 7th and I thought it was a terrific location to stay. The description includes a vast write-up of rue Cler with all the great foods they have. Of course, once you see these morsels, you want to buy them-the bakery, the chocolaterie, the creperi, the cheese shop, the butcher/deli-all in addition to dining at the cafes and restaurants. These shops are an extra bonus when you have children with you!
So we are returning again in several weeks, but staying in a different hotel as I liked the boutique hotel concept. How would I know in advance that the owner would tell us to get up from the dining room table and to take my daughter's food outside to eat it? How would I know that the view from our top floor triple is through a skylight such that my wife felt it claustrophobic? How would I know that every time we returned to the hotel and had to pick up our room key from the front desk person, they'd stare at your parcels as though you're a "smuggler?" Maybe thats acceptable in your culture, but not in mine or at least, not to me.
Mark
So we are returning again in several weeks, but staying in a different hotel as I liked the boutique hotel concept. How would I know in advance that the owner would tell us to get up from the dining room table and to take my daughter's food outside to eat it? How would I know that the view from our top floor triple is through a skylight such that my wife felt it claustrophobic? How would I know that every time we returned to the hotel and had to pick up our room key from the front desk person, they'd stare at your parcels as though you're a "smuggler?" Maybe thats acceptable in your culture, but not in mine or at least, not to me.
Mark
Jul 12th, 2004, 05:56 AM
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Mark,I think the staff staring at your packages was exclusive to this hotel. I guess it happens at other hotels too. However, all the Parisian hotels I've stayed at (so far) have never made me feel that I'm a smuggler. And I was carrying two shopping bags full of Laduree pastries into my hotel last time. The staff didn't mind.
Jul 12th, 2004, 07:52 AM
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I never had a problem when I stayed at the Muguet but we are fairly easygoing and I don't expect them to be my best pals.
Many hotels ask you to return the key for security reasons and I prefer this in case I lose the key and I let them know we may be back VERY late...no prob we were let in by the night person.
They let us store our luggage and ordered taxi's for us no problem. The only dislike I had was the poodle who nearly took my arm off...well ok he just scared the life out of me when I went to pet him and he lurched barking at me so I said horrible things to him in English as the lady at the desk did not speak any. I felt better
Many hotels ask you to return the key for security reasons and I prefer this in case I lose the key and I let them know we may be back VERY late...no prob we were let in by the night person.
They let us store our luggage and ordered taxi's for us no problem. The only dislike I had was the poodle who nearly took my arm off...well ok he just scared the life out of me when I went to pet him and he lurched barking at me so I said horrible things to him in English as the lady at the desk did not speak any. I felt better
Jul 12th, 2004, 08:04 AM
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Looks like my question got everyone off on an interesting topic. It really is interesting that difference that people feel about the same hotel. I am still keeping my reservation at the Muguet for the time being but I do think that I would like to move to the 5th or 6th for more action.
I guess hotels can make their own policy such as no food in the room, it just seem like very good PR to get after a 12 year old girl for her food. Like I said I am not too worried about the food issue but I would like the front desk to be a little more welcoming.
I am still contacting some of the hotels you all recommended. Does anyone have a direct e-mail for the Parc St. Severin or the Le Regent. Through one of the booking companies they said that Parc St. Severin was full and I haven't heard from the Regent. I find it is much better to e-mail them directly.
Petal, thank you for your info on both hotels. It really helps that you stayed at both of them. I wish I could afford the bigger room at de Fleurie but don't want to use my whole budget on rooms. I will keep looking.
And if anyone has other suggestions or has the e-mail for those hotels above, I would appreciate it. I am also doing searches on this forum and on trip advisor. Thanks.
I guess hotels can make their own policy such as no food in the room, it just seem like very good PR to get after a 12 year old girl for her food. Like I said I am not too worried about the food issue but I would like the front desk to be a little more welcoming.
I am still contacting some of the hotels you all recommended. Does anyone have a direct e-mail for the Parc St. Severin or the Le Regent. Through one of the booking companies they said that Parc St. Severin was full and I haven't heard from the Regent. I find it is much better to e-mail them directly.
Petal, thank you for your info on both hotels. It really helps that you stayed at both of them. I wish I could afford the bigger room at de Fleurie but don't want to use my whole budget on rooms. I will keep looking.
And if anyone has other suggestions or has the e-mail for those hotels above, I would appreciate it. I am also doing searches on this forum and on trip advisor. Thanks.
Jul 12th, 2004, 08:06 AM
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I have only been to Paris once, but returning this fall. stayed at the Hotel Tulip with my wife and daughter. It was in the 9th. Had idea where anything was, before I found Fodors. But the Hotel was clean and modern with an elevator. Breakfast was extra so we opted for french pastries. My wife and 19 year old daughter were alway slow to get up and ready to go. I loved to walk in the mornings especially in the brisk fall weather. Just before my return i would make a couple of stops for pastries usually a large assortment and coffee and yogurt. I love the yogurt in europe, especially rhubarb, never get it in the states. I would haul all this stuff up to the room each morning and leave the trash in the room (receptacles ofcourse)and never had a problem. It would definetly put a damper on Paris with a no food rule.
But just one question for Mark.
What exactly are " hotel sorts" ?
But just one question for Mark.
What exactly are " hotel sorts" ?
Jul 12th, 2004, 08:11 AM
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Le Regent is pretty good judging from the comments here and on tripadvisor.com. I think from what I've read the staff is much much more welcoming than the one at the Muguet.
Email them directly at: [email protected]
The hotel has no direct website but they are one of the hotels listed on www.france-hotel-guide.com and may be contacted directly via that site. It's not a booking agency however; you deal with the hotel directly.
For space ask for a deluxe double room and be aware that the elevator is upstairs from the ground floor.
Parc St. Severin you can contact them directly through www.esprit-de-france.com. Fill out the booking request form and they'll respond to you.
Email them directly at: [email protected]
The hotel has no direct website but they are one of the hotels listed on www.france-hotel-guide.com and may be contacted directly via that site. It's not a booking agency however; you deal with the hotel directly.
For space ask for a deluxe double room and be aware that the elevator is upstairs from the ground floor.
Parc St. Severin you can contact them directly through www.esprit-de-france.com. Fill out the booking request form and they'll respond to you.
Jul 12th, 2004, 08:20 AM
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Stephen G: I was wondering about that "Hotel Sorts" comment too.
So here's another topic that has been touched on in this thread.... holding multiple reservations. Isn't this problematic for all of us trying to get reservations? I've read so many times about people who book several hotels, canceling at the last moment the ones they don't select. I can only imagine what a nuisance that is for the hotel owners. And I think it's not fair to tourists who really just one one reservation and can't get it because so many of you have three.
What do you all think?
So here's another topic that has been touched on in this thread.... holding multiple reservations. Isn't this problematic for all of us trying to get reservations? I've read so many times about people who book several hotels, canceling at the last moment the ones they don't select. I can only imagine what a nuisance that is for the hotel owners. And I think it's not fair to tourists who really just one one reservation and can't get it because so many of you have three.
What do you all think?
Jul 12th, 2004, 08:22 AM
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grasshopper - You have a point about reservations. I have only had my reservation at Muguet for a few days and as soon as I book another hotel, I will cancel. I will definitely not hold on to it until the last minute. But you make a good point.
Jul 12th, 2004, 09:14 AM
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Each time I think I'm done with this line of questioning, someone challenges me or asks me another question. All part of the fun, I suppose. "Hotel sorts" was used in response to the writer who claimed that had I wanted to find some best friends with hotel folks, "I should've gone elsewhere." I'm not even going to look back to see who the genius was who came up with that suggestion. Sounds like someone from Staten Island or Newark, New Jersey. Therefore, hotel sorts=hotel owners/workers.
Paula, don't drive yourself crazy figuring out the "just right" hotel to pick. I did that last year and I think some of the time is wasted. You're already on the right track and once you check in, you're settled. Consider the vast activities and sights you want to see and maximize your time keying in on those. The four days will go by very quickly and since there's so much to experience, you have to key in on local travel time, events, costs, eating, shopping, and down time to re-energize.
It'll be great no matter what.
Mark
Paula, don't drive yourself crazy figuring out the "just right" hotel to pick. I did that last year and I think some of the time is wasted. You're already on the right track and once you check in, you're settled. Consider the vast activities and sights you want to see and maximize your time keying in on those. The four days will go by very quickly and since there's so much to experience, you have to key in on local travel time, events, costs, eating, shopping, and down time to re-energize.
It'll be great no matter what.
Mark
Jul 13th, 2004, 10:42 AM
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Mark, you are right about spending too much time on picking a hotel. It seems especialy in Paris there are so many hotels and so much information. I saw the thread about hotel overload and I agree. On the other hand I am glad to have so much feedback from people who have been to these places.
Even though I think the Muguet as a hotel would be fine for us, I have decided that I really want to be a little in the action. So I am looking at hotels in the 6th and maybe the 5th. Unfortunately my budget is not too high. The good thing about late August is that hotels do offer discounts.
That said, I do have a couple of questions. The Bonaparte looks very good and gets good reviews. Does anyone know where I could see a picture of the hotel since there are no websites? Also do the rooms have showers or just bathtubs? I don't really care for myself but I know my daughters and sister would prefer a shower.
Parc St. Severin sent me back a quote of 110 euro for a room with two twin beds. That seems very good but reading some of the posts, people liked the hotel but thought the area was too touristy and somewhat trashy.
I sent a request for a quote to Hotel Monge which seems good. How is the location and how far a walk is it to the Seine and Blvd St Germain?
Lastly, through hotel.com I can get a good rate at Sully St. Germain. Seems like a nice hotel, need to check about hotel rates.
I can also book a standard room at Hotel le Regent for 112 euro but I don't want to spend more for the bigger room and people have indicated that the standard room at Regent is very small.
Now that I have narrowed down some hotels in my price range with AC, my biggest priority is a quieter street that is close to everything. I appreciate all your feedback, you guys are great and I know my trip is going to be great. Picked up my plane tickets yesterday!! Going to London first then Paris.
Even though I think the Muguet as a hotel would be fine for us, I have decided that I really want to be a little in the action. So I am looking at hotels in the 6th and maybe the 5th. Unfortunately my budget is not too high. The good thing about late August is that hotels do offer discounts.
That said, I do have a couple of questions. The Bonaparte looks very good and gets good reviews. Does anyone know where I could see a picture of the hotel since there are no websites? Also do the rooms have showers or just bathtubs? I don't really care for myself but I know my daughters and sister would prefer a shower.
Parc St. Severin sent me back a quote of 110 euro for a room with two twin beds. That seems very good but reading some of the posts, people liked the hotel but thought the area was too touristy and somewhat trashy.
I sent a request for a quote to Hotel Monge which seems good. How is the location and how far a walk is it to the Seine and Blvd St Germain?
Lastly, through hotel.com I can get a good rate at Sully St. Germain. Seems like a nice hotel, need to check about hotel rates.
I can also book a standard room at Hotel le Regent for 112 euro but I don't want to spend more for the bigger room and people have indicated that the standard room at Regent is very small.
Now that I have narrowed down some hotels in my price range with AC, my biggest priority is a quieter street that is close to everything. I appreciate all your feedback, you guys are great and I know my trip is going to be great. Picked up my plane tickets yesterday!! Going to London first then Paris.
Jul 13th, 2004, 11:01 PM
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I feel like I am being a pain but I appreciate your knowledge. What do you like about the location of either the Regent or the Bonaparte. I am assuming that they are central to everything and hopefully they are in neighborhoods that have the Paris feel. From what I am getting, there are many neighborhoods that way. Although I have nothing against the Metro and I am sure I will use it, I like to walk to as much as I can. I just can get the feel of the city I am in that way. So thanks again.
I feel like I am being a pain but I appreciate your knowledge. What do you like about the location of either the Regent or the Bonaparte. I am assuming that they are central to everything and hopefully they are in neighborhoods that have the Paris feel. From what I am getting, there are many neighborhoods that way. Although I have nothing against the Metro and I am sure I will use it, I like to walk to as much as I can. I just can get the feel of the city I am in that way. So thanks again.
