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Old Nov 10th, 2019 | 08:58 AM
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Help with Paris and Provence in Sept or Oct

We are starting to plan a 10-12 day trip to Paris and Provence. We have been to both a few years ago, so ready for a return. Hotels in St. Remy will be Chateau des Aphilles and in Paris Aubusson or Relais Christine.
We will fly to Paris from CA, so I am thinking of heading I to Paris upon arrival. Stay there 4 nights, then take train to Avignon and pick up rental car. Stay in St Remy 4 nights.
does it make sense to take TGV late afternoon from Avignon after dropping off car to CDG and stay in hotel at airport? Is there a hotel (Holiday Inn) right in terminal? Other alternative is to train back to Paris, spend the night, and airport the next day.
i have looked into flying home from Marseilles but is more expensive than direct flight from CDG
home. Also, is mid Sept better than beginning of Oct for trip?
thanks for your help!
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Old Nov 10th, 2019 | 10:27 AM
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I would check the rates from Nice as well.
We took the TGV to Avignon, spend the night within the walls and took a taxi the next day back to the station to pick up the rental car. Dropped it the day before in Nice and flew out of Nice. LOVED that portion of the trip.

I'm not sure what I'd do if returning to CDG. I'd probably book an early train to Paris and then a late afternoon or evening flight out of CDG. Staying near the airport wouldn't appeal to me. Now that I think about it, my preference would be to have one last night in Paris and then take a taxi or Uber to the airport for my flight. If I'm that close to Paris, I'd want to spend the night IN Paris, not near CDG. Two weeks ago I had a quick overnight in Paris (thanks to Delta) and opted out of their finding me a CDG hotel and went to my favorite hotel in Paris. Only a few hours to enjoy being in Paris, but it was a pure delight!

Edited to add: I would choose late September or early October.

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Old Nov 10th, 2019 | 12:35 PM
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Last summer we stayed at the Sheraton, located in Terminal 2, the night before our flight. Very convenient! For me, one factor would be your flight's departure time. If in the morning (and especially during the week), would want to be near or at the airport.
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Old Nov 10th, 2019 | 01:10 PM
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We also live an Calif (San Francisco) and usually fly round trip to France twice a year. We've been doing this since 1999. When flying to France, we usually fly to CDG and then take a TGV to Avignon, Bordeaux, Reims, or Strasbourg from CDG if the TGV schedule is convenient (and we are not starting our trip in/near Paris). If we start our trip in Nice - we fly there. We try to avoid 2 airplane trips on arrival day if we can. We have flown to Bordeaux twice, and about 2 times to Toulouse (of the 40 or so trips we've taken to France). United has 1 non-stop from SFO to CDG every day in the afternoon, and Air France has 2 non-stop flights in the afternoon. This means we can leisurely get to SFO around noon, check in, and then have a gourmet lunch at Mustards Grill at SFO, and have several glasses of wine before taking off.

After 20 years of flying home from France, we decided several years ago to never take 2 flights to get home. It makes for a very long day. We love returning to Paris for a one-nighter before heading home. We especially like returning from Provence where the TGV ends up at the Gare de Lyon in Paris & we can have our last French dinner at the eye-popping Train Bleu at the Gare https://www.le-train-bleu.com/en/ There is a United flight that departs at 9:15 or so, and an Air France about 1 hr later, and another Air France at 3:55. We usually depart France on a Sunday when traffic is light. It is interesting to drive through Paris on a taxi about 6am and watch what happens early morning in the City of Lights. We have never spent the last night at an airport hotel (except when our flight home was cancelled & they put us up at an airport hotel).


Attached is my 35 page Cote d'Azur & Provence itinerary.

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Old Nov 14th, 2019 | 10:14 PM
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StuDudley When you start your trips in Nice, do you fly to Paris then change planes or take a train from CDG? Also, how do you like Nice? I read your itinerary top to bottom. It seems like you like it yet it also seems you prefer smaller towns. I have had people describe ice as cold and unfriendly. What do you think?

I’d also love to know your favorite medium-sized town in France? And your favorite within an hour or so of Paris if you have one! Thanks in advance!
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Old Nov 15th, 2019 | 06:34 AM
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The train from Nice or CDG goes qute slow once it passes Aix or Marseille. So we fry from SFO to Frankfurt to NCE if we take United. If we take AF and they are not on one of their many strikes - we fly to CDG & then fly to NCE (but not from Orly).

We love Nice. It's kinda home for us

Cities with a population greater than 10,000 but less than 85,000
1. Sarlat
2. Colmar
3. Beaune
4. Figeac
5. Auxerre
6. Chambery
7. Vannes
8. Annecy
9. Troyes
10. Albi

Troyes & Auxerre are close to Paris

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Old Nov 15th, 2019 | 12:04 PM
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Thanks StuDudley I recall reading that you liked Aix but I believe I also read it wasn't really for you because it was too big. I think I have narrowed down my decision to live for a month in Nice or Aix (not sightsee). We want a walkable small lively city that offers cafe life, museums, art, gardens, cute cobblestone streets with shops, a market, some entertainment. Clearly Nice offers much more than Aix, but I am getting the impression that Aix feels more storybook French. Do I have that wrong?

PS. Oh, and we need to be able to get to Catania easily at the end of our month.

Sorry to hijack your thread dac
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Old Nov 15th, 2019 | 12:06 PM
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Nice is neither cold nor unfriendly--it's a fine city to visit, with much to do, and a lot of it free.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019 | 01:58 PM
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>> I recall reading that you liked Aix but I believe I also read it wasn't really for you because it was too big <<

Aix is on our list of "top 5" large cities (> 85,000) in France. That's why it is not on the list above. Aix is our favorite city in Provence - and my wife's second favorite shopping city in France. Only drawback is that it is not in the best location to visit the sites most people want to visit while in Provence. We love Aix - and it is really not that big (compared to Lyon, Marseille, or Toulouse, etc).

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Old Nov 15th, 2019 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Underhill
Nice is neither cold nor unfriendly--it's a fine city to visit, with much to do.
I agree!
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Old Nov 15th, 2019 | 09:01 PM
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I agree!
Us too. We always return to Nice. Next time 10 nights in 2021 with no itinerary.

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Old Nov 15th, 2019 | 09:25 PM
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Okay, back to reading about Nice. And Aix and Verona lol Slowly narrowing it down.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019 | 09:51 PM
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@ lrice: If you haven't seen it, you might find some useful information in my trip report:
A stellar month in southeastern France
And when you're ready to ask specific questions, I would encourage you to start your own thread.
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Old Nov 16th, 2019 | 05:58 AM
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kja Thank you for the link to your trip report! I had skimmed through it in the earlier days of my research but have now returned to it with a cup of coffee in hand. I love your attention to detail. You have a gift for bringing your travel to life.

You travel like I do, taking advantage of every moment, even if that moment is admiring a fountain with a glass of wine in hand. It’s very emotional for me to be in the presence of certain historical works of art or tombs (Mary Queen of Scot’s and Queen Elizabeth 1’s tombs in Westminster Abbey this past summer had me to my knees but that’s another story.)

I’ve just finished your time in Nice. I have learned a lot through your writings and have a wonderful visual. My 22-year old daughter was there for six weeks in May and June 2019. A recent graduate with an Art History major, she thoroughly enjoyed the many museums, villas and gardens. I received many pictures but not the detail as in your report. (She was also lucky enough to spend the winter and spring of 2018 studying at SciencesPo in Paris.)

Thank you for reminding me of your report— perfect timing to circle back to it as my research is a bit more focused now.
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Old Nov 16th, 2019 | 08:34 AM
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@ lrice: I'm glad you're finding some value in my trip report! Thanks for letting me know and for your kind words.
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Old Nov 16th, 2019 | 10:26 AM
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Note that Paris hotel prices skyrocket in September and October because of all the trade and fashion shows. Book well ahead.
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Old Nov 16th, 2019 | 10:35 AM
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I would go to Provence first and save Paris for the end of your trip.....this avoids a night at the airport.
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