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Old Apr 13th, 2005, 09:32 AM
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LVSue--Only non-native speakers would say the N in <i>saintes</i>. That is due to the anticipation of the T.
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Old Apr 13th, 2005, 11:10 AM
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Cadillac - «cad ee ak»
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Old Apr 13th, 2005, 04:12 PM
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Moreover, Cadillac limousine is:
KA-dee-ak lee-moo-ZEEN

I seem to recall that Cadillac was an explorer but why, pray, do we say limousine?

Limousin(e) is the adjectival form of Limoges -- as many here already know.

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Old Apr 13th, 2005, 04:43 PM
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Cadillac was indeed an explorer. He founded Detroit.

My wife just googled limousin and tells me that the profile of the separate driver's section resembled a hood once worn in Limoges. Sounds very odd. It's amazing what you can dig up these days.

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Old Apr 13th, 2005, 05:27 PM
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I just googled 'sedan' and found that it was a dialect word for 'seat' rather than a derivation from the French town of Sedan.

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Yes, Rex, I had forgotten your description. I guess the &quot;Sohn Denis&quot; set me off.

Exactly, Michael, we are trying to help non-native to <b>approximate</b> sounds in the French language. You'll have to admit (maybe) that &quot;Sant&quot; Chapelle would be more comprehensible to native speakers, than &quot;Sohnt&quot; Chapelle. At any rate, your tongue ends up in the same place when you say N or T. Is that what you mean by anticipation of the T?
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Since this thread is developing so many tangents, here goes another I ran across in researching <i>je vous en prie</i>: in English, this once had a direct cognate in <i>I pray thee</i>, which became <i>prithee</i>, and <i>prithee please</i> degenerated into <i>pretty please</i>.
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&quot;je vous prie de vous tenir tranquilles&quot; (for pupils for ex) or &quot;vous &ecirc;tes pri&eacute;s de vous tenir tranquilles!&quot; for &quot;please, be quiet!&quot;
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