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Old Sep 22nd, 2019 | 05:06 PM
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greece trip with kids! Need itinerary help

hi! My husband And I will be heading to Greece with our three kids ages 10, 8 and 5at the end of May. I am having the hardest time deciding what islands to go to. I know we will have two days in Athens, but can’t decide if we should do Mykonos, create, Naxos , Milos, Paros... there is so much on the mainland I also wanted to see but I don’t want to move around too much with my three kids. Ideally it will be two nights in Athens (beginning or end?) and then two or three other locations. While we definitely want some history, the point of this trip is mostly a cultural experience, so my kids can experience a new culture, new foods,New environments, and of course some time to relax at the beach. Please help me decide how to figure out which islands to go to. If you have any pros and cons of each one that you’ve gone to with kids, I’d love to hear. Thank you so much and advance!
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Old Sep 22nd, 2019 | 06:41 PM
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Sorry that I can't help with the issues most relevant to traveling with children that age, but FWIW:
  • If you will be flying out of Athens, consider putting your time there at the end of the trip.
  • Crete is delightful, but best with at least a week, if not two. How much time do you have?
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Old Sep 22nd, 2019 | 08:59 PM
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If you have no longer than 2 weeks, then the most efficient method is to head for your farthest island immediately upon landing in ATHEN, then ferrying back toward Mainland... with 2 sialnds, you can ferry the final "leg" to Pireaus (the Athens port) ... if you try 3 islands, you'll need to FLY the final leg, can't spare the 5 hours or so on a ferry. If u alread have flights PLEASE share dates, AND time of day for arrival/departure -- the time affects your options. Also, unless you are in a witness protection program he he, it would help to say generally where u are coming from... so we'll know the exhaustion factor on day one.

Since you do have ample time, I strongly urge some guide-book research (u don't need the latest editions, u are not using for hotels or cafes, but for the background & features of each destination and these don't change). The library has a whole shelf-full... look at Rough Guide, Let's Go GReece, Lonely Planet. I agree that Crete requires at least 5 days & a car rental, Naxos (THE best island for families like yours) has so much to do/see it can occupy you happily for 4-5 days... and Santorini should either be a daytrip or a 1-nighter, with that gang; it's not a big kick for kids.

ALso take a look at NAFPLIO on the mainland -- http://www.visitnafplio.com/ -- kids love it, gorgeous Old Town, THREE castles/fortresses, hikes, ruins beaches... AND it's easy to reach from Athens (2.5 hrs on a modern highway beside the sea). Here are some photos taken in May --
/ -- every family I've sent there loved it. BONUS: on the drive there, u can stop at a "sacred games site" Ancient NEMEA, the "runner-up" to Olympia... with temple, a stadium, a "heroes tunnel" and starting-blocks for racers dating 2500years ago. Every 4 years is the "revived Nemean Games" with thousands of competitors from all over the world... it's in June 2020, and in May the preparations will be well underway ... very exciting for youngsters! https://nemeangames.org
For SANTORINI- NAXOS- NAFPLIO - ATH In 2 weeks IMHO a workable itinerary would be: Arrival Day noonish fly to Santorini, stay overnight Day 2 - Santorini Day 3 - ferry to NAXOS 10:30 am stay day 3-4-5-6-7 Day 8 - fly back to ATH 8 am, get Car, go to Nafplio area for Day 8- 9 - 10 ... Day 11 drive back to ATHENS area (stop en route @ Eipidauus. Athens Day 12-13-14.

FOR CRETE - NAXOS - ATHENS -- IMHO, workable itinerary would be Arrival Day noonish fly to CHANIA CRETE .... CRETE day 2-3-4-5-6? Day 7 - ferry to NAXOS ... NAXOS day 8-9-10-11 eve fly to ATH ATHEn day 12-13-14.
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Old Sep 23rd, 2019 | 12:45 AM
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Agree that for a cultural experience you should concentrate on the mainland, and if your kids are interested in mythology they would love the ancient sites around Nafplio in the Peloponnese. Although I usually go to the islands myself, they are more about beach holidays than anything else.

A revelation for me, when I was invited to the southern Peloponnese for a gathering of friends, discovered the beaches there are for the most part better than on the islands, the water warmer, and not so much wind. One of the great things about a mainland holiday is you can drive around in a rental car at your own pace, free of ferry and flight schedules, with no worries about weather or strikes (like the one tomorrow, the 24th) cancelling ferries.

You will probably want to go to at least one island on your trip. If so, suggest that for the beginning of the trip. With a large family it would be more economical to use ferries rather than flying to an island. Blue Star ferries leave Piraeus for the Cyclades every day at 7:25 am and again at 5:30 pm. Paros is the first stop on the ferry to Santorini, taking four hours. Next stop is Naxos, another hour further. Should you decide on two islands Paros and Naxos would be an easy combination, with no need to use highspeed ferries.

On the the subject of ferries, many people assume that highspeed ferries are a better choice than the slightly slower conventional ones. I disagree. All the highspeeds in the Greek fleet are second or third hand, having been bought from North Sea or Baltic companies when they are too old for them. Blue Star has the newest ferries in Greece, most less than 10 years old and very reliable. These are very large ferries with restaurants, wifi, and open decks along with seating inside the ship.

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Old Sep 23rd, 2019 | 05:19 AM
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We are leaving from New York City. We land on a Saturday and then leave 2 weeks later on that Monday. Nafplio is really tempting!
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Old Sep 23rd, 2019 | 09:37 AM
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Hi there Showtime (ha ha),
-- if y ou take that JFK delta flight late afternoon friday, you arrive Athens about 9:30 am Sat ... costs more than flights that change in Europe, but its a question of time vs money isn't it?? If you do arrive in the AM (only the nonstops will; the Euro connections don't arrive til mid-afternoon ) What you could do would be to have a couple of cups of strong coffee, then pick up a car to Nafplio & get over y our jet-lag there, in a beautiful setting. After 3 days, say, drive back & drop car at seaport in time for Blue Star 5:30 sailing, get to Paros 9:30, Naxos 10:30pm. Late arrival for kiddies, but they can sleep in & wake up on a beach!

After Island time, you could again ferry back -- the daytime ferry eats up a whole beach day, but I have used another strategy. At noon check-out time at small beach hotel (usually family-run, very flexible), I arrange to leave luggage in their back room... then have a final beach afternoon... at 4 pm, return and by arrangement, use an unrented "powder room" to wash up & change to travel duds, then get to pier by 5:30 for 6pm BLUE STAR. I call it the "Sunset Sail" because you can sit in the unreserved economy deck seats (make the boys run up the stairs to snag them!) to enjoy view until dark, then move inside to "reserved economy" seats -- (also called Aircraft seating but nothing like the modern awful planet seats -- these are lean-back, upholstered, foot-rest, lots of leg room); buy tix at an island agency & specific SIDE compartment). You can eat in onboard cafe or at yr seat then read, snooze until arrival at 11:45 pm or so. 5 is too many to go legally in a taxi, so you'd need to book a car service with mini-van in advance (Welcome Pick-ups has a good reputation). You'd be at your central-Athens accommodation by 12:30 or so, ready to sightsee next day.
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Old Sep 23rd, 2019 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by travelerjan
If you do arrive in the AM (only the nonstops will; the Euro connections don't arrive til mid-afternoon ) What you could do would be to have a couple of cups of strong coffee, then pick up a car to Nafplio & get over y our jet-lag there, in a beautiful setting.
IMO, travelerjan often provides excellent suggestions, but this is terrible advice! Although many people are not aware of it, there is mounting evidence that driving with jet lag is just as dangerous -- to yourself and others -- as driving drunk, and nothing you can do will prevent the microsleeps (which you might not even notice) that are the apparent culprit. Seriously -- NOT a good idea, no matter your other constraints and no matter your prior experience no matter whether you sleep on the plane no matter how much coffee you drink. Driving any distance with jet leg is seriously bad idea, let alone a two hour trip.
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Old Sep 24th, 2019 | 01:31 PM
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Kja's advice taken on board -- if y ou would not feel comfortable attemptng to drive after long journey, you would have to change your sequence OR modify it. You could get a FREE shuttle to a hotel on a beach, 25 minutes away (Hotel Avra, in Rafina)... collapse on beach while kids play, eat early dinner & tuck into bed, get up early AM return to Aiport, get a car and then follow my itinerary suggestion.

The other options would be:
• Do Athens FIRST - (perhaps nap in afternoon, then go to Acropolis at 5 pm; then next day do more landmarks), THEN return to airport & get car & do Nafplio for 3 days ... Followed by NAXOS (fly?) for 3-4 days, then return to Athens AREA, the day before departure. Easiest start, least efficient sequence.
• Do Island first - Upon Arrival, Fly out immediately to Island (Naxos? Chania in Crete?) spend 3-4 days. If you did CHANIA, you could take a cabin on an overnight ferry, land piraeus in AM, pick up car & drive to Nafplio for 3 days, return car to Airport (u can return to different place in Athens with most rental agencies) then bus x95 to central athens hotel for final 2- 3 days.
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Old Sep 24th, 2019 | 05:03 PM
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Can one not fly to Naxos or Chania without going through Athens? I know I got to Chania without doing so, and I believe (but can't swear) that one can also fly to Naxos without going through Athens. I'm not saying one can necessarily go by direct flight, but forcing the routing through Athens limits one's choices, means that one bears the responsibility for the cost of a new ticket if the initial flight is delayed, may mean extra charges for luggage, etc. AND it forces some of these logistic difficulties associated with access to a car.
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Old Sep 24th, 2019 | 08:05 PM
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No one c annot get to Naxos except fdrom Athens, via Aegean Air or Sky Express. In order to get to Chania without changing at athens, people need to have a flight from a European airport ... and you'd have to work with airlines that allow an "open-Jaw" ticket (I.e., fly to Europe, change at London/Frankfurt/CdeG/Rome etc for direct flight to Chania... ) then your airline would have to permit a homebound ticket that starts at Athens. Many airlines don't offer that. Anyway, it sounds as if they've got their tickets already (altho they do not share the arrival/departure times, which is important if they want the best advice).
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Old Sep 26th, 2019 | 07:18 PM
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Naxos has only a 900 meter runway, which eliminates the possibility of international flights, and no other Greek domestic airport has flights to Naxos. Chania has a very long runway shared by the military, and there are many flights from airports throughout Europe.

Travelerjan, who doesn’t drive, should be careful with advice for those who do. There are Express buses from Athens to Nafplio, which although less convenient than a rental car, would be safer for someone wishing to get there the same day after arriving on a long haul flight. You can rent a car in Nafplio after a day or two there.
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Old Sep 26th, 2019 | 08:29 PM
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Thanks, Heimdall!
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Old Sep 27th, 2019 | 09:26 AM
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Heimdall, KJA, I did post an amended itinerary suggestion after kja's comments about jet-lag; although I don't drive, I have been shotgun-navigator on at least 5 rental-car trips from Athens to Nafplio, and have taken the bus another 5 times, often with rental once arriving to Nafplio, so am familiar with both options.
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Old Sep 27th, 2019 | 09:42 AM
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We've been to Naxos three straight summers with our kids (who are now 6 and 8). I'm probably going back. You could easily spend a week or more there and not be bored. In addition to the beach, it has old-school villages and it's island. I have stayed at Villa Naxia three times and will probably stay there again if he has availability (he books up in advance).

Have you booked your trip yet? I'd try to fly one stop from NYC to Santorini or another island international flights and do Athens/mainland on the way back. Two straight years, we flew into Santorini and out of Athens and it was heavenly. This year we flew in and out of Athens and I wouldn't do that again. But I guess if you get a straight flight to Athens then you have more options (we don't have that luxury).
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Old Sep 27th, 2019 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by travelerjan
Heimdall, KJA, I did post an amended itinerary suggestion after kja's comments about jet-lag
Sorry I didn't reply. Good job, travelerjan
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