goodbye Concorde
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My mother-in-law flew the Concorde almost twenty years ago. She said it was grand! Now she is gone, like the Concorde. Well, actually, I think the dear thing is probably up there on the heavenly Concorde, seeing the beautiful curve of the earth, watching us mortals below....Cheers to you, Nana, and the Concorde!
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Three Concordes are flying into Heathrow this afternoon for retirement. Sad as it may be, it is not going to affect my life as I was never likely to use the plane. It reminds me of a quote when there was public wailing in Britain when Rolls Royce was sold to the Germans - "Why is there such an outcry when the only time that most people will ride in a Rolls Royce is on their way to their funeral?".
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Of the 14 Concordes made, BA and Air France had 7 each. BA still has 7 but obviously AF has less (they actually still have 5).
5 of the BA Concordes are going to:
* Intrepid Air and Space Museum in New York.
* Manchester Airport viewing park
* Museum of flight in Seattle
* Barbados - possibly at Grantley Adams Airport
* Filton (near Bristol) to be displayed in the proposed Bristol Aviation Heritage Museum
That leaves 2 others. I did hear that they may keep one airworthy for air displays and rides but that's unlikely.
Air France are selling off more than 150 items such as pilot's leather seat. BA have been offered £7M for one of the nose-cones.
5 of the BA Concordes are going to:
* Intrepid Air and Space Museum in New York.
* Manchester Airport viewing park
* Museum of flight in Seattle
* Barbados - possibly at Grantley Adams Airport
* Filton (near Bristol) to be displayed in the proposed Bristol Aviation Heritage Museum
That leaves 2 others. I did hear that they may keep one airworthy for air displays and rides but that's unlikely.
Air France are selling off more than 150 items such as pilot's leather seat. BA have been offered £7M for one of the nose-cones.
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Watched the thee of them today from the roof of our building - they looked beautiful as ever - even though they were quite a way away. Ran downstairs and watched the landings on TV.
Took some pictures, but they are not a patch on the ones take as part of the Golden Jubilee flyover with the Red Arrows. She flew pretty much directly overhead.
Sad, say day.
Took some pictures, but they are not a patch on the ones take as part of the Golden Jubilee flyover with the Red Arrows. She flew pretty much directly overhead.
Sad, say day.
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AR said "Sad as it may be, it is not going to affect my life as I was never likely to use the plane. It reminds me of a quote when there was public wailing in Britain when Rolls Royce was sold to the Germans - "Why is there such an outcry when the only time that most people will ride in a Rolls Royce is on their way to their funeral?"."
My sadness today is not that I was ever likely to fly concorde, but that the civil aviation world has completely neglected the opportunity to build on the fantastic technological advancements of Concorde - light years ahead of its time. If there'd been progress and lessons learned then perhaps oneday we could all have benefited from improved air travel. So much for progress. Where's everyone's ambition gone?
My sadness today is not that I was ever likely to fly concorde, but that the civil aviation world has completely neglected the opportunity to build on the fantastic technological advancements of Concorde - light years ahead of its time. If there'd been progress and lessons learned then perhaps oneday we could all have benefited from improved air travel. So much for progress. Where's everyone's ambition gone?
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Unfortunately Kate, money is rarely sentimental. Concorde can (sorry, could) only carry 100 passengers. It actually needed 50 before it broke even on every flight. The trend is now for bulk carriers and not speed, hence the next generation super jumbos. The first class passangers even have a bed these days. One wonders, though, what would have happened if Boeing had managed supersonic passenger airflights first and not the Anglo-French?
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I have flown the Concorde 6 times round trip (I used to work for the fashion designer Todd Oldham) to both London and Paris. It really was no big deal, but because you boarded from the private Concorde lounge and there were only "A-level" people boarding with you (no business class, no coach), it did feel like being in the dining room at the Groucho Club or Costes. My current employer does not send me first class, only business, and sometimes coach, so I would love to try one of those sleeping pods on BA in first class.
In my opinion, the Concorde was great for business travellers who had to be in London in 3 hrs. It was not that luxurious, and the seats were small (it reminded me of sitting in a dental chair), but the Champagne did flow freely and it was funny to see a Vogue editor passed out in the WC.
In my opinion, the Concorde was great for business travellers who had to be in London in 3 hrs. It was not that luxurious, and the seats were small (it reminded me of sitting in a dental chair), but the Champagne did flow freely and it was funny to see a Vogue editor passed out in the WC.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and memories. Maybe it was a technological dead end - but it was a beautiful thing - and I suspect it was just too, too far ahead of its time. And something similar will emerge - 2010? 2015? Who knows? And to AR:
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One wonders, though, what would have happened if Boeing had managed supersonic passenger airflights first and not the Anglo-French?
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Precisely!
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One wonders, though, what would have happened if Boeing had managed supersonic passenger airflights first and not the Anglo-French?
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Precisely!
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I flew it twice, to Barbados; to leave London on a cold December morning and arrive in Barbados at exactly the same local time; just magic. You felt as though you were part of a really exclusive club. There where lots of families with children on those flights. Just read a letter from Richard Branson in the Economist; he says he made an offer of 5 million pounds for them, and would have flown the Concorde commercially to NY, Barbados and Dubai. He was planning to sell most tickets at high prices, but sell some seats on every flight for lower prices too so that more people could experience it. Pity they didn't give him a chance.

