Good book about French culture
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Good book about French culture
Since there is often discussion about French culture and customs, a book I like:
"Sixty Million Frenchmen Can't Be Wrong: Why We Love France, but not the French," by Jean-Benoit Nadeau and Julie Barlow, Sourcebooks, Inc., 2003. The authors are both Canadians who were posted in France for a few years. The initial topic of their assignment was to cover how France was adapting to globalization, but it evolved into more of a study of the contemporary culture and customs. (Their sponsor was the Institute of Current World Affairs.)
The title of the book is a bit misleading in that the authors attempt to explain how France and its institutions work well enough given its own culture, and why differences with other cultures can drive outsiders a little nuts. The authors do not imply that everything rolls along smoothly or uniformly across France, but some insightful themes are developed re: the art of eloquence; eduation; the role of government; until-the-bitter-end-ism; the importance of land; private space; etc.
Much of it rings very true in my own experience, and they seem to have enough French colleagues and freinds to earn some veracity in what they write, yet still write with whatever objectivity an outsider might offer.
Anyway, I think this book is more insightful than others written on the subject in recent years (e.g. Gopnick's "Paris to the Moon."
"Sixty Million Frenchmen Can't Be Wrong: Why We Love France, but not the French," by Jean-Benoit Nadeau and Julie Barlow, Sourcebooks, Inc., 2003. The authors are both Canadians who were posted in France for a few years. The initial topic of their assignment was to cover how France was adapting to globalization, but it evolved into more of a study of the contemporary culture and customs. (Their sponsor was the Institute of Current World Affairs.)
The title of the book is a bit misleading in that the authors attempt to explain how France and its institutions work well enough given its own culture, and why differences with other cultures can drive outsiders a little nuts. The authors do not imply that everything rolls along smoothly or uniformly across France, but some insightful themes are developed re: the art of eloquence; eduation; the role of government; until-the-bitter-end-ism; the importance of land; private space; etc.
Much of it rings very true in my own experience, and they seem to have enough French colleagues and freinds to earn some veracity in what they write, yet still write with whatever objectivity an outsider might offer.
Anyway, I think this book is more insightful than others written on the subject in recent years (e.g. Gopnick's "Paris to the Moon."
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Dear capo wrote about this a while back.
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34432413
Sounds interesting.
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34432413
Sounds interesting.
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I've read all those books and thought they were interesting. Although I will say that "Paris to the Moon," though sweet, was very amateurishly written. You wonder why the author didn't employ a better editor. Another interesting book is "French Women Don't Get Fat," which has a story woven in and out of all the recipes. That one was really funny in parts.
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Gopnick can be entertaining, but I wouldn't trust him for insights into French culture. He barely passed through. A year or so, as I recall. Also, I would beware of generalizations, from anyone. French culture and customs are rich, varied and complicated, and not infrequently contradictory. Two decades on, I don't believe I know very much.
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Fragile Glory: A Portrait of France & the French by Richard Bernstein was, I thought, insightful and an interesting revelation of French ways and the French temperament. Also some great anecdotes from his days as the NY Times man in Paris.
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what a revelation! I didn't know we were so interesting to study!;-)
I almost feel like species in danger...
a few weeks (months?) ago I wanted to buy "Sixty Million Frenchmen Can't Be Wrong: Why We Love France, but not the French," but it seems so interesting I can't find it anywhere now! can anyone make a summary of it? :->
and is there any equivalent for american people so I'll know everything about YOU!
coco
I almost feel like species in danger...
a few weeks (months?) ago I wanted to buy "Sixty Million Frenchmen Can't Be Wrong: Why We Love France, but not the French," but it seems so interesting I can't find it anywhere now! can anyone make a summary of it? :->
and is there any equivalent for american people so I'll know everything about YOU!
coco
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"Almost French" is the best book for women about dressing in Paris and how to conduct yourself and she explains why through her mishaps. I'm a big fan of Inès de la Fressange and when Sarah interviews her, she learns a thing or two about style, throws out her warm-up pants and doc martens.
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The last several years has seen many books and articles about the "French Paradox," and the recent books about how French Women staay thin.
To my delight today, the current issye of the New Yorker arrived.(I always choose the week's favorite cartoon of mine, as I think they have gone down hill the last many years.
Today, I picked: "The Secret Shame of Paris"
"Predawn Roundup of Fat Frenchwomen."
To my delight today, the current issye of the New Yorker arrived.(I always choose the week's favorite cartoon of mine, as I think they have gone down hill the last many years.
Today, I picked: "The Secret Shame of Paris"
"Predawn Roundup of Fat Frenchwomen."
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travelnut, I subscribe but here is that article on line,
http://www.francetoday.com/articles/...do_get_fat.htm
http://www.francetoday.com/articles/...do_get_fat.htm
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The May 2 issue of the New Yorker has an ad for "A Great Improvisation - Franklin, France and the Birth of America" by Pulitzer Prize winner Stacy Schiff.
The NYT says "The most important recent addition to Franklin scholarship"
Ron Chernov - "Sparkling prose..tells the tale of Franklin in Paris with piquant humor, outrageous anecdotes worthy of the finest French farce, and a wealth of lapidary observations."
The issue also reviews "Malraux: A Life" by Olivier Todd.
The NYT says "The most important recent addition to Franklin scholarship"
Ron Chernov - "Sparkling prose..tells the tale of Franklin in Paris with piquant humor, outrageous anecdotes worthy of the finest French farce, and a wealth of lapidary observations."
The issue also reviews "Malraux: A Life" by Olivier Todd.
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If you have enjoyed "Sixty Million Frenchmen Can't be Wrong", and can read French, Jean Benoît Nadeau also wrote "Les Français Aussi Ont un Accent" (The French also have an accent) about his and his wife's "anthropological misadventures" among the French. Published in France, it is a very witty and perceptive look at the French. There is a bit of overlap with the English book, but generally the book stands on its own, and I thoroughly recommend it.
For a taste of it, in his concluding chapter, he list 12 things that always baffle the outsider, in ascending order of irritation:
12. The time of sunrise: always too late, even in spring.
11. Tips: do I leave one or not?
10. Do I say mademoiselle or madame?
9. Congratulations on your accent
8. Breakfast
7. The time of lunch
6. The dry cleaner's that closed for lunch
6. To call a tapis (rug) a moquette (carpet)
6. Priority to the right
6. Turkish toilets
6. Parisian taxis
6. Dog-shit
He remarks that all of these constantly remind him that he is not at home. If you notice no more than three of these, you are French, through and through. After 15 to 20 years in France, you might score 6 out of 12!
For a taste of it, in his concluding chapter, he list 12 things that always baffle the outsider, in ascending order of irritation:
12. The time of sunrise: always too late, even in spring.
11. Tips: do I leave one or not?
10. Do I say mademoiselle or madame?
9. Congratulations on your accent
8. Breakfast
7. The time of lunch
6. The dry cleaner's that closed for lunch
6. To call a tapis (rug) a moquette (carpet)
6. Priority to the right
6. Turkish toilets
6. Parisian taxis
6. Dog-shit
He remarks that all of these constantly remind him that he is not at home. If you notice no more than three of these, you are French, through and through. After 15 to 20 years in France, you might score 6 out of 12!




