Giverny vs. Versailles
Oct 8th, 2015, 12:06 PM
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Monet deliberately planted the gardens of Giverny to have visual interest year round. He wanted to be able to paint it year round, and he did. If you know Money's work, and is autumn and winter paintings, it is thrilling to see the gardens in those seasons.>
How have you sandra seen the gardens in winter? Special tour? You may be right about how Monet planted the gardens but that is irrelevant as to visit is a seasonal thing as MdeLost says.
You made the huge mistake and criticize others for not recommending a winter visit?
How have you sandra seen the gardens in winter? Special tour? You may be right about how Monet planted the gardens but that is irrelevant as to visit is a seasonal thing as MdeLost says.
You made the huge mistake and criticize others for not recommending a winter visit?
Oct 8th, 2015, 02:11 PM
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There was another, autumn-something. On Frommer's she's mushroom.>>
somehow this strikes me as funny, not sure why.
whatever incarnation she is in at the moment, when she isn't trying to prove how much better travelled and educated she is than the rest of us, she can provide some really good and valuable information. but she seems to have some form of "Forum tourettes" which means that she just can't resist showing how superior she is.
She even told me off for agreeing with her once!
somehow this strikes me as funny, not sure why.
whatever incarnation she is in at the moment, when she isn't trying to prove how much better travelled and educated she is than the rest of us, she can provide some really good and valuable information. but she seems to have some form of "Forum tourettes" which means that she just can't resist showing how superior she is.
She even told me off for agreeing with her once!
Oct 8th, 2015, 03:14 PM
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Indeed, annhig. Looking back over the "exchange" above, I still don't believe there was a conflict of actual pertinent information...only that she wanted there to be. That tells me she was simply having an episode. But as I mentioned, Im used to it although when & where is always the mystery. I guess the same is true of hormones, or lack thereof.
Oct 8th, 2015, 03:19 PM
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A typical post ran something like:
All sorts of detailed/useful info advice . . . followed or preceded by "don't listen to [insert screen name], s/he is (pick one) a nit wit, stupid, inane, limited imagination, nitpicky, ridiculously polyannish, self appointed High School Hall Monitor of Europe, blathers, bigoted, petty, pigheaded, nonsense, contemptible, shallow, half baked, oblivious . . . and those are just in the last 7 days . . .
All sorts of detailed/useful info advice . . . followed or preceded by "don't listen to [insert screen name], s/he is (pick one) a nit wit, stupid, inane, limited imagination, nitpicky, ridiculously polyannish, self appointed High School Hall Monitor of Europe, blathers, bigoted, petty, pigheaded, nonsense, contemptible, shallow, half baked, oblivious . . . and those are just in the last 7 days . . .
Oct 9th, 2015, 01:12 PM
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Giverny is a few-hour thing for most and longer to get to from Paris - if you're really interested in Monet that's great - but the general person if they had to chose would prefer Versailles - if not just because of its great fame.
Versailles can take much of a day - not only for the world's most famous palace IMO but for the vast park and gardens and Marie Antoinette's Hameau where she allegedly played peasant shepherd and the town of Versailles though overlooked by nearly all the throngs that throng the palace area= just to the south of the palace is an old area of town with ancient hotels and embassies extant from when Versailles was the seat of government for later kings who fled from the rabble of Paris to a more relaxed place. I found this area very interesting - the tourist office kind of opposite the RER C exit has a walking tour map of this old area where the likes of Benjamin Franklin stayed.
And the center of Versailles is a sweet regional town with few foreign tourists - a wrought-iron Les Halles type market is there and nice shopping area.
Giverny is a small village well worth exploring because it is the iconic French village rather untouched by modernity - check out the village cemetery where Monet still rests but all in all most folks will probably like Versailles more if they can't do both.
Giverny is one of my favorite day trips from Paris but if I could do only one it would be Versailles.
I'm sure sandralist concurs with all I say here - and I think the gardens at Versailles were designed to be seen in winter and in that case can actually be seen in winter!
Versailles can take much of a day - not only for the world's most famous palace IMO but for the vast park and gardens and Marie Antoinette's Hameau where she allegedly played peasant shepherd and the town of Versailles though overlooked by nearly all the throngs that throng the palace area= just to the south of the palace is an old area of town with ancient hotels and embassies extant from when Versailles was the seat of government for later kings who fled from the rabble of Paris to a more relaxed place. I found this area very interesting - the tourist office kind of opposite the RER C exit has a walking tour map of this old area where the likes of Benjamin Franklin stayed.
And the center of Versailles is a sweet regional town with few foreign tourists - a wrought-iron Les Halles type market is there and nice shopping area.
Giverny is a small village well worth exploring because it is the iconic French village rather untouched by modernity - check out the village cemetery where Monet still rests but all in all most folks will probably like Versailles more if they can't do both.
Giverny is one of my favorite day trips from Paris but if I could do only one it would be Versailles.
I'm sure sandralist concurs with all I say here - and I think the gardens at Versailles were designed to be seen in winter and in that case can actually be seen in winter!
Oct 9th, 2015, 01:44 PM
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I have no hope that she'll do us the courtesy of keeping her word, as I'm sure you recall annhig, she didn't when she made the same promise not so long ago. She'll reappear before long as if nothing happened and the cycle will begin again. I wish her nothing but good things, including an adjustment of her meds, my only desire to not see more of the abuse that sadly will define her around here. Hope against hope.
Oct 9th, 2015, 02:06 PM
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PalenQ is so right about the little town of Versailles.
Rather than stay in Paris, on arrival, we once went straight to Versailles, checked into our hotel, had lunch and toured the gardens, then browsed around the town. It was a heavenly afternoon. We toured Versailles early the next morning before busses arrived. The town is charming with a nice area of restaurants.
So, to the OP, if you choose Versailles, don't rush back to Paris. Stay in Versailles for dinner. If the market is open, it is quite beautiful with wonderful food.
Rather than stay in Paris, on arrival, we once went straight to Versailles, checked into our hotel, had lunch and toured the gardens, then browsed around the town. It was a heavenly afternoon. We toured Versailles early the next morning before busses arrived. The town is charming with a nice area of restaurants.
So, to the OP, if you choose Versailles, don't rush back to Paris. Stay in Versailles for dinner. If the market is open, it is quite beautiful with wonderful food.
Oct 9th, 2015, 02:28 PM
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Another idea for the OP, get to Versailles in time to browse the market and have breakfast. Walk and explore the gardens for a couple of hours.
Many of the busses of tourists arrive from 9:00 to 10:00 and again after lunch. If you can do without lunch right at noon, you can enter the Chateau around 11:00. No guarantee, but that might work for you.
Actually, it is too bad about Sandralist. She often had great travel ideas and excellent advice, hate to lose that. I respected her wide range of travel experience, and often referred others to her for opinions.
Just wish she had been able to refrain from name calling of others whom she disagreed with, and perhaps accepted that once in awhile someone else might be a tad more knowledgeable about something.
Many of the busses of tourists arrive from 9:00 to 10:00 and again after lunch. If you can do without lunch right at noon, you can enter the Chateau around 11:00. No guarantee, but that might work for you.
Actually, it is too bad about Sandralist. She often had great travel ideas and excellent advice, hate to lose that. I respected her wide range of travel experience, and often referred others to her for opinions.
Just wish she had been able to refrain from name calling of others whom she disagreed with, and perhaps accepted that once in awhile someone else might be a tad more knowledgeable about something.
