Franco's favourite ... Venetian accomodation
Mar 17th, 2007, 06:25 AM
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ripit, no need at all to be sorry - this thread is actually meant for what you're doing here! And I'll make use of your question and try struggling against the S. Marco bashing running rampant on this forum.
IT IS NOT TRUE THAT SAN MARCO IS TOURISTY.
Capital letters, yes... It is true that most of the intollerably touristy parts of Venice are in S. Marco. But it's also true that at least half of S. Marco is quiet, cosy, nice, without many tourists. And around the Fenice theatre, it's a noble, quiet residential neighbourhood with hardly any tourists. Of course, there are some who'd come for a Fenice guided tour, but that's it. Especially on the rear side of the opera house (where your B&B must be located - the canals are only there), you won't see many tourists. On the other hand, "vibe" is not a word that I'd associate with the Fenice... it's REALLY quiet. But it's just a few steps (hard to find, though, get yourself a good map) from Campo S. Angelo that has a very local, non-touristy vibe and is actually one of my favourite places in Venice (S. Marco, as well, do I need to stress that?).
As far as restaurants, Venice is so small, and good restaurants are so few that it isn't worth thinking about restaurants near to your hotel, wherever it is located. You WILL travel across the city to get a good meal at a decent price. As far as the Fenice neighbourhood, there actually is a good restaurant on Campo S. Angelo: Acqua Pazza - it's so HEAVILY overpriced, though, that I don't go if not on invitation by one of their patrons (who don't of course pay THAT much). For restaurant recommendations, you might want to check my Venice food thread (the link is above).
IT IS NOT TRUE THAT SAN MARCO IS TOURISTY.
Capital letters, yes... It is true that most of the intollerably touristy parts of Venice are in S. Marco. But it's also true that at least half of S. Marco is quiet, cosy, nice, without many tourists. And around the Fenice theatre, it's a noble, quiet residential neighbourhood with hardly any tourists. Of course, there are some who'd come for a Fenice guided tour, but that's it. Especially on the rear side of the opera house (where your B&B must be located - the canals are only there), you won't see many tourists. On the other hand, "vibe" is not a word that I'd associate with the Fenice... it's REALLY quiet. But it's just a few steps (hard to find, though, get yourself a good map) from Campo S. Angelo that has a very local, non-touristy vibe and is actually one of my favourite places in Venice (S. Marco, as well, do I need to stress that?).
As far as restaurants, Venice is so small, and good restaurants are so few that it isn't worth thinking about restaurants near to your hotel, wherever it is located. You WILL travel across the city to get a good meal at a decent price. As far as the Fenice neighbourhood, there actually is a good restaurant on Campo S. Angelo: Acqua Pazza - it's so HEAVILY overpriced, though, that I don't go if not on invitation by one of their patrons (who don't of course pay THAT much). For restaurant recommendations, you might want to check my Venice food thread (the link is above).
Mar 17th, 2007, 08:22 AM
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Franco, thank you SO MUCH! This is exactly the information I was looking for! Last time we went to Venice we stayed just east of the San Marco on the Grand Canal. It was a convenient location and though we were in a small pensione, many of the most expensive hotels in Venice were all around us. This time around I want to stay in more of a local neighborhood but near to most points of interest. It sounds like the Fenice neighborhood where our B&B is locate will fit the bill nicely. Quiet is fine with us as we will be travelling with 3 young children.
Mar 23rd, 2007, 02:29 AM
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dear franco
my fiancee and i are coming to venice in late may for only one night, thus need central accomodation. could you suggest a place. our budget is around the 150-200 euro mark. preferrably on the lower scale
thanks in advance
lynette
my fiancee and i are coming to venice in late may for only one night, thus need central accomodation. could you suggest a place. our budget is around the 150-200 euro mark. preferrably on the lower scale
thanks in advance
lynette
Mar 23rd, 2007, 02:35 AM
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dear franco
i have already posted this question to you , but am now not sure which thread i posted it on!!
so here we go again.
my partner and i are in venice for only one night and one and a half days.
i wonder if you could suggest anywhere to stay in late may.
our budget is around the 150 euro
i have a reservation with www.casanovaaitolentini.com
it is near piazzale roma, is this area convenient?
thanks in advance
lynette
i have already posted this question to you , but am now not sure which thread i posted it on!!
so here we go again.
my partner and i are in venice for only one night and one and a half days.
i wonder if you could suggest anywhere to stay in late may.
our budget is around the 150 euro
i have a reservation with www.casanovaaitolentini.com
it is near piazzale roma, is this area convenient?
thanks in advance
lynette
Mar 23rd, 2007, 06:55 AM
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Lynette - this is in a very, very nice area; a small area, though, the surroundings are among the most modern and hence least pleasant parts of Venice, but right around where that B&B is obviously located, it's really charming, with few tourists, and I love that neighbourhood.
BUT!!! convenient? - no, not at all. This is one of the few areas of Venice distant from more or less everything, exactly the opposite of "central", and getting to the sights that you'll want to see is rather cumbersome and time-consuming. Particularly for just one night, this area wouldn't be my first choice. I'd rather try and stay somewhere around Rialto or S. Marco.
BUT!!! convenient? - no, not at all. This is one of the few areas of Venice distant from more or less everything, exactly the opposite of "central", and getting to the sights that you'll want to see is rather cumbersome and time-consuming. Particularly for just one night, this area wouldn't be my first choice. I'd rather try and stay somewhere around Rialto or S. Marco.
Mar 23rd, 2007, 06:49 PM
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dear franco
thanks for that
i will change accomodation
but to where.....
have tried quite a few that have been suggested on another thread of mine, but all booked
hmmmmmm
any suggestions greatly appreciated
lynette
thanks for that
i will change accomodation
but to where.....
have tried quite a few that have been suggested on another thread of mine, but all booked
hmmmmmm
any suggestions greatly appreciated
lynette
Mar 27th, 2007, 07:58 PM
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Liforday-I don't know why in the world you'd want to change accomodation in this area-it happens to be the area where there is an interesting, and very local and important Chiesa (dei Tolentini), also very near the Scuole Grande San Giovanni Evangelista, where fabulous concerts are held, great local restaurants, it's the Santa Croce/Dorsoduro area of Venice-and it is very close to Piazzale Roma vaporetto stop, as well as San Stae vaporetto stop, and near Palazzo Mocenigo, which is a Palazzo you can visit to see how the powerful Mocenigo family-who produced 7 Doges of Venice-lived in the 18th century. It's a charming area, really, with equal numbers of tourists but particularly, Venetians. Since my Venetian friends live near the Tolentini (in fact, very close to Da Fiore-the Michelin starred restaurant) I'm quite familiar with the area-and enjoy it a lot-you can walk down to Campo Santa Margarita in a little over 5 minutes-I know, I did it a number of times this past week.
I think you'd love staying in this B and B, it's not at all inaccessible, it looks charming, so is a good find on your part, particularly if it has good reviews on trip advisor.
I think you'd love staying in this B and B, it's not at all inaccessible, it looks charming, so is a good find on your part, particularly if it has good reviews on trip advisor.
Mar 27th, 2007, 08:32 PM
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Ljforday-I just took a look at the reviews of this Casanova ai Tolentini B and B on trip advisor, and it gets VERY favorable recommendations-if you read the reviews, the people who have stayed there recommend it for its convenience-you'd really be missing a very charming place to stay in the heart of authentic Venice if you took a pass on this place.
Mar 28th, 2007, 03:54 AM
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Girlspytravel, thank you for reminding me that I had forgotten to answer Lynette's last question. Lynette - sorry.
Well, as for the location of that B&B, everything had already been said, I think. Yes, it's near to S. Nicola dei Tolentini, yes, this is a local church, no, it's not important, rather, it's plain ugly, bad late Baroque architecture (and here's a Baroque buff writing). No, that B&B is nowhere near Palazzo Mocenigo (a look on the city map would have helped a lot). Yes, it's more or less near the Scuola Grande di S. Giovanni Evangelista, but much as I love that place, I don't think any first timer to Venice with just one days and a half to spend there would want to visit it (and the same is true of Pal. Mocenigo, which is a very interesting small museum of Baroque costume and interior btw, for those who spend more time in Venice). To cut a long story short, the only major sights which this B&B is REALLY near to are the Frari church and the Scuola Grande di S. Rocco.
Ok, and now, finally, for your question, Lynette: have you already tried at the Riva and Astoria hotels? As the typical apartment renter, I've been to neither of them, but both are just a few steps from S. Marco; the Riva is has a good reputation on this forum, and the Astoria has a good reputation in Venice.
Well, as for the location of that B&B, everything had already been said, I think. Yes, it's near to S. Nicola dei Tolentini, yes, this is a local church, no, it's not important, rather, it's plain ugly, bad late Baroque architecture (and here's a Baroque buff writing). No, that B&B is nowhere near Palazzo Mocenigo (a look on the city map would have helped a lot). Yes, it's more or less near the Scuola Grande di S. Giovanni Evangelista, but much as I love that place, I don't think any first timer to Venice with just one days and a half to spend there would want to visit it (and the same is true of Pal. Mocenigo, which is a very interesting small museum of Baroque costume and interior btw, for those who spend more time in Venice). To cut a long story short, the only major sights which this B&B is REALLY near to are the Frari church and the Scuola Grande di S. Rocco.
Ok, and now, finally, for your question, Lynette: have you already tried at the Riva and Astoria hotels? As the typical apartment renter, I've been to neither of them, but both are just a few steps from S. Marco; the Riva is has a good reputation on this forum, and the Astoria has a good reputation in Venice.
Apr 12th, 2007, 04:52 PM
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franco-
i have just emailed La Rosa, inquiring into October availability
My husband and I will be travelling with a female friend of ours. This apt says it accomodates 3 people - is there a separate sleeping area for the 3rd person?
We will only be there 3 nights before boarding a cruise ship...
Looking forward to your response
i have just emailed La Rosa, inquiring into October availability
My husband and I will be travelling with a female friend of ours. This apt says it accomodates 3 people - is there a separate sleeping area for the 3rd person?
We will only be there 3 nights before boarding a cruise ship...
Looking forward to your response
Apr 12th, 2007, 04:59 PM
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The third bed is in a separate room (the living room), but there's no door between the two rooms. Only today (funny coincidence), I've answered a very similar question about the three beds at the Rosa on another thread, and here's my recommendation: if your travel companion is a rather close friend, it should be excellent for the three of you (I've stayed there once in a very similar party); if this is a more distant friendship, you might feel more comfortable elsewhere.
Apr 13th, 2007, 08:05 AM
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FYI, an e-mail I received yesterday:
From: "La Rosa di Venezia" <[email protected]>
Date: April 12, 2007 12:31:18 PM MDT
To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
Subject: unexpected opportunity to visit Venice in May
Dear former guests, dear prospective visitors,
I know for sure that many of you would love to visit Venice in May (one of the most beautiful seasons, also in my opinion)... there is no other month for which we have to disappoint so many inquirers every year! That's why I thought I must let you know of this unexpected opportunity: due to TWO consecutive cancellations, we have availability for nine nights from May 8th to 17th - that makes one long or two to three short visits! Normally, such an opportunity is unimaginable, because when we have an unexpected vacancy like this in May, my wife and I go ourselves - we love Venice in May. This year, however, we can't, unfortunately - we've already booked our holiday elsewhere for that period... So hopefully, this will make one or more of you happy!
Hoping that you're all well, and with best regards
Robert Schlesinger
Please note: mails like this are being sent occasionally to our former guests and to people who have inquired with us without being able to book in the end. If you don't want to further receive these mails, please send a short notice."
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From: "La Rosa di Venezia" <[email protected]>
Date: April 12, 2007 12:31:18 PM MDT
To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
Subject: unexpected opportunity to visit Venice in May
Dear former guests, dear prospective visitors,
I know for sure that many of you would love to visit Venice in May (one of the most beautiful seasons, also in my opinion)... there is no other month for which we have to disappoint so many inquirers every year! That's why I thought I must let you know of this unexpected opportunity: due to TWO consecutive cancellations, we have availability for nine nights from May 8th to 17th - that makes one long or two to three short visits! Normally, such an opportunity is unimaginable, because when we have an unexpected vacancy like this in May, my wife and I go ourselves - we love Venice in May. This year, however, we can't, unfortunately - we've already booked our holiday elsewhere for that period... So hopefully, this will make one or more of you happy!
Hoping that you're all well, and with best regards
Robert Schlesinger
Please note: mails like this are being sent occasionally to our former guests and to people who have inquired with us without being able to book in the end. If you don't want to further receive these mails, please send a short notice."
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Apr 15th, 2007, 06:10 AM
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annie, I thought they had a picture of the bathroom on their website, I checked it, and it is there; I don't succeed to link it, though, their website is strange in technical respect(it always jumps to the first page, never mind which url you're writing or pasting into your browser). If you enter the English version, you're on the "apartment" page by default; on the right, there's a link to a second "apartment" page; and again, on the right, a next link to a third "apartment" page, and there is a bathroom picture.
That said, the shower is in the bathtub, but there is a very unusual folding wall (similar to a shower door) that makes the bathtub become kind of a shower cabin. Confusing? Yes, but very smart, I love it. Else, it has a bidet, and the walls are in beautiful grey marble cut into astonishing, very large slabs (you couldn't call that tiles).
That said, the shower is in the bathtub, but there is a very unusual folding wall (similar to a shower door) that makes the bathtub become kind of a shower cabin. Confusing? Yes, but very smart, I love it. Else, it has a bidet, and the walls are in beautiful grey marble cut into astonishing, very large slabs (you couldn't call that tiles).
May 14th, 2007, 01:19 PM
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We (a group of 6) just came back from Venice. We really liked our apartment because it was slightly away from the crowds yet walkable to San Marco square. Just around the corner was a main street area where you can get fresh fruit and find good restaurants. Good luck!
http://www.veniceapartments.org/html/celsi1.html
