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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 04:58 AM
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I'd want more time in Paris, too.

And taking a day off Toulouse and a day off Bordeaux won't give you anywhere near enough time to enjoy the "dreamy" Dordogne, as Pal oddly puts it. That's a terrible idea. You need a week there to begin to appreciate it. Take those days off and add them to Paris.

And instead of St-Emilion, if you must take a daytrip from Bordeaux, go to Arcachon and Cap Ferret and the Dune du Pyla.
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by StCirq
I'd want more time in Paris, too.

And taking a day off Toulouse and a day off Bordeaux won't give you anywhere near enough time to enjoy the "dreamy" Dordogne, as Pal oddly puts it. That's a terrible idea. You need a week there to begin to appreciate it. Take those days off and add them to Paris.

And instead of St-Emilion, if you must take a daytrip from Bordeaux, go to Arcachon and Cap Ferret and the Dune du Pyla.
I doubt that the dunes wold be readily reachable via public transportation. A day trip to Cognac would make more sense, although there is a store in Bordeaux that sells only Cognac and possibly Armagnac.
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 08:23 AM
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Michael, your doubts are incorrect. The municipal bus system serves places like the Dune du Pyla.

Going back to the OP, I would very much like to know if all of these places are being visited by public transportation only, or if there is an option of car rental.
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 08:31 AM
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It's VERY easy to get to the Dune du Pyla, except in winter, but even then it's not a big deal.

I find Cognac and that whole area dreadfully boring, in terms of both landscape and things of interest in the towns.
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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Thank you all for your feedback and suggestions. Great discussion.

Paris: i didn’t add more days since I visited for the past two years and plan to go again in the fall. I should have explained that in my original post.

Nimes: will reduce by 1 night

Toulouse: will reduce by one night

Bordeaux: will reduce by 1 night and eliminate the day trip.

Tours: will replace with Amboise

Lyons: will add a few nights
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 09:13 AM
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Lavender Fields: that was an input from my travel partner and they say it’s not a “must do” understand we might be a few weeks early to see the blooms. Not having a car, we were hoping to take a day tour from either Nimes or Avignon.

Bayonne instead of Bordeaux: tempting, but will save Bayonne for another trip

Dordogne: would love to add it, but don’t know how it could be done without a car.

Using public transport only: had two very bad experience with car rentals and not ready to rent again. Understand that limits our travel options.
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 09:48 AM
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Only 4 nights in Paris? Too little time. I would cut days and nights out of it to maximum 2-3. Paris has too much to offer than 4 nights, unless you've been there before and you know it quite well.

I'ts probably only me but I don't share the enthusiasm about Amboise. I would drop it altogether and go for other places in the Loire. The chateau is not that interesting. Even worse is Clos Luce, an extremely expansive tourist's trap boasting Da Vinci's name. The garden is nice but you don't have to spend 14 Eur for that. Tours is a big city and has extensive rail services to many places, there is enough to see in it (certainly the Cathedral) and you can get very easily to Chenonceau and most important to Blois which is in my opinion the most beautiful and certainly the most elaborate of the Loire's chateau.
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 11:11 AM
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Paris has too much to offer than 4 nights, unless you've been there before and you know it quite well.
It does help to actually read the whole thread. The OP said, just two posts before: "Paris: i didn’t add more days since I visited for the past two years and plan to go again in the fall. "
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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The chateau is not that interesting- the Amboise chateau to me is as interesting as any and has a long history - a chateau fort on its front facing the Loire rather than pleasure dome like most but a real for staying in Amboise (or Azay and other chateaus) is the son-et-lumiere show many nights in summer when a cast of hundreds of locals perform a multi-media show with translation and seances in English:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ambo...w=1280&bih=625

repeating this link because it ties in here for folks not reading whole thread.
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Old May 3rd, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by thursdaysd
It does help to actually read the whole thread. The OP said, just two posts before: "Paris: i didn’t add more days since I visited for the past two years and plan to go again in the fall. "
No need to be grumpy. I didn't see the post when I was answering.
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