For Ingo: How is Dresden handing the water?
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For Ingo: How is Dresden handing the water?
I just read that the Elbe is rising fast, a result of warmer weather melting all that snow Germany had this winter.
Just wanted to say I hope you and your family won't suffer any ill effects, and that the Altstadt area is being safeguarded against damage. I would hate for 2002 to be repeated!
Fritzl
Just wanted to say I hope you and your family won't suffer any ill effects, and that the Altstadt area is being safeguarded against damage. I would hate for 2002 to be repeated!
Fritzl
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Hello Fritzl,
thank you for your thinking of us poor Dresdners!
The Elbe is indeed rising - the meadows to both sides are flooded, and so is the street in front of Brühl's Terrace. Some nice residential suburbs like Laubegast, Pillnitz, Zschieren are struggling with the water and will partly be flooded soon. The old town is safe this time (according to the forecast). The highest level of the river is expected for Friday - it will probably be around 7.50 m, compared to more than 9 m in 2002.
It is worse in the region upstream - Saxon Switzerland. Small towns like Wehlen, Rathen, Bad Schandau and Königstein are already flooded and the river is still rising.
However, I don't think 2002 is going to be repeated this month.
Thanks again,
Ingo
thank you for your thinking of us poor Dresdners!
The Elbe is indeed rising - the meadows to both sides are flooded, and so is the street in front of Brühl's Terrace. Some nice residential suburbs like Laubegast, Pillnitz, Zschieren are struggling with the water and will partly be flooded soon. The old town is safe this time (according to the forecast). The highest level of the river is expected for Friday - it will probably be around 7.50 m, compared to more than 9 m in 2002.
It is worse in the region upstream - Saxon Switzerland. Small towns like Wehlen, Rathen, Bad Schandau and Königstein are already flooded and the river is still rising.
However, I don't think 2002 is going to be repeated this month.
Thanks again,
Ingo
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I'm relieved to hear that, Ingo -- though the news about the towns up-river isn't good.
Saaaaaay....do you suppose the Bundesregierung would be willing to pay my plane fare if I let them know I'd be happy to come fill sandbags?
gt;
Fritzl
Saaaaaay....do you suppose the Bundesregierung would be willing to pay my plane fare if I let them know I'd be happy to come fill sandbags?
gt;Fritzl
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Hahaha, hsv, joking, eh?
Dykes are impossible to build in the narrow Elbe valley in Saxon Switzerland. And in Dresden and down the river we go the other way: give more ground to the river. The large meadows to both sides of the Elbe - even in the city centre - prevent from a much higher water level. We will definitely NOT build dykes/walls (like e.g. in Cologne)!
Unfortunately I must say the situation turns from bad to worse. More than 1000 people had to be evacuated in Bad Schandau, the small towns along the river in Saxon Switzerland are all flooded. Urrgghh.
Ingo
Dykes are impossible to build in the narrow Elbe valley in Saxon Switzerland. And in Dresden and down the river we go the other way: give more ground to the river. The large meadows to both sides of the Elbe - even in the city centre - prevent from a much higher water level. We will definitely NOT build dykes/walls (like e.g. in Cologne)!
Unfortunately I must say the situation turns from bad to worse. More than 1000 people had to be evacuated in Bad Schandau, the small towns along the river in Saxon Switzerland are all flooded. Urrgghh.
Ingo
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Ingo,
of course I am keeping my fingers crossed that you do not suffer any physical or material harm.
Neopolitan,
my Webster lists dyke and dike being one and the same. In order to clarify I was asking about the option of embankments being built.
of course I am keeping my fingers crossed that you do not suffer any physical or material harm.
Neopolitan,
my Webster lists dyke and dike being one and the same. In order to clarify I was asking about the option of embankments being built.
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Too bad about Bad Schandau. Not alot you can do to hold back Mother Nature in the long run. The levees didn't do too much to protect New Orleans last year. Maybe it would be better to build everything on stilts like Amsterdam, eh?
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hsv. I see now in my dictionary it does say that "dyke" is a British variant of dike.
Here in the US, "dyke" is another name for a lesbian. "Dike" is an construction to divert or hold back water.
Google "dyke" and then "dike" if you want any confirmtation.
Sorry, it just struck me very funny.
Here in the US, "dyke" is another name for a lesbian. "Dike" is an construction to divert or hold back water.
Google "dyke" and then "dike" if you want any confirmtation.
Sorry, it just struck me very funny.
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Thanks to all for the regards. We are prepared for yet higher levels and hope to manage the flood well.
I had to smile about the dykes/dikes thing. ;-)
Yes, there are a few (low) dikes (hahaha) in the villages downstream from Dresden. Not in the city centre though.
It is funny to see the tourists standing on bridges and Brühl's terrace watching the flood and discussing and pointing here and there ...
I had to smile about the dykes/dikes thing. ;-)
Yes, there are a few (low) dikes (hahaha) in the villages downstream from Dresden. Not in the city centre though.
It is funny to see the tourists standing on bridges and Brühl's terrace watching the flood and discussing and pointing here and there ...
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Ingo, I assume you live on a higher ground in Dresden as you never mentioned being personally affected in 2002. In any case I hope for the best outcome for you and for Dresden. It would be a catastrophe if all the renovations after 2002 gets damaged again. The online German newspapers & Prosieben on satelite TV stated that Dresden is better prepared this time so the catastrophe of 2002 will not recur. I wonder what they meant by "better prepared", it sounds too much like a typical vague statement made by a cityhall politician. I sure hope it means more than having a better evacuation system.
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Thanks DAX! Yes, I live indeed on a hill. So I am not personally affected. My mother's aunt lives in Gohlis, close to the Elbe (downstream from the old town) and was evacuated in 2002. Her neighbours 50 m down the street were evacuated yesterday too. When we spoke on the phone she said that she is "sitting on her balcony enjoying the warm sun and watching the younger folks schlepping sandbags".
The problem in 2002 was that the flood came from one hour to the other and the official "weather frogs" did not realise the dangerous situation. I don't think we could not have done much better in 2002 (except the weather forecast/amount of rain).
As far as I know the officials in the cityhall set up an excellent flood management. They work very efficiently this time.
Anyway, I don't expect huge donations this time, so the owners will probably have to pay the damages from their own wallet - and many won't be able to. Not sure about insurances.
I expect everything being back to normal by Easter. No problems for you.
Ingo
The problem in 2002 was that the flood came from one hour to the other and the official "weather frogs" did not realise the dangerous situation. I don't think we could not have done much better in 2002 (except the weather forecast/amount of rain).
As far as I know the officials in the cityhall set up an excellent flood management. They work very efficiently this time.
Anyway, I don't expect huge donations this time, so the owners will probably have to pay the damages from their own wallet - and many won't be able to. Not sure about insurances.
I expect everything being back to normal by Easter. No problems for you.
Ingo
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DAX,
just to keep you updated:
the water is gone in Dresden and the region. Streets in Dresden are cleaned and free for traffic again. Everything back to normal except for the few house owners who have to do renovations due to water damages.
The paddle steamers are most likely running from tomorrow on.
It looks a bit different up the river. The ferries are not yet in operation. Hopefully the ferries in Rathen, Wehlen, Königstein and Bad Schandau will be back in operation on Easter weekend, but it is not sure yet.
The S-Bahn trains S1 from (Schöna-) Bad Schandau via Königstein, Rathen, Pirna to Dresden leave 13 minutes earlier in Bad Schandau. They cannot run full speed and have to be right in time in Dresden Hbf. So, if you want to catch one in Rathen be there 10 minutes earlier.
just to keep you updated:
the water is gone in Dresden and the region. Streets in Dresden are cleaned and free for traffic again. Everything back to normal except for the few house owners who have to do renovations due to water damages.
The paddle steamers are most likely running from tomorrow on.
It looks a bit different up the river. The ferries are not yet in operation. Hopefully the ferries in Rathen, Wehlen, Königstein and Bad Schandau will be back in operation on Easter weekend, but it is not sure yet.
The S-Bahn trains S1 from (Schöna-) Bad Schandau via Königstein, Rathen, Pirna to Dresden leave 13 minutes earlier in Bad Schandau. They cannot run full speed and have to be right in time in Dresden Hbf. So, if you want to catch one in Rathen be there 10 minutes earlier.
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Thanks Ingo, really appreciate your update. I'm not getting any response to my request for a tour of the Glaeserne Manufaktur. My first request was in German and then a second request in English but both were ignored. We may just skip the Phaeton as I realize that perhaps we are just imposing on their factory employees. There are plenty of other things to do.


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