Food important or not.
Jan 19th, 2008, 11:12 AM
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StCirq wrote: "I used a 2006 Baron Philippe de Rothschild Pinot Noir (which sounds way fancier than it is - I think it's about a $12.00 wine).And I used big chunks 
of sirloin.
I also simmered it for almost 5 hours.
It's pretty awesome, actually."
It might be awesome -- I suspect it is -- but it ain't boeuf bourgignon.
of sirloin. I also simmered it for almost 5 hours.
It's pretty awesome, actually."
It might be awesome -- I suspect it is -- but it ain't boeuf bourgignon.
Jan 19th, 2008, 11:13 AM
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I told a fib about the chicken soup. Actually as I sit here I am eating a turkey, cheese and tomato sandwich on sour dough French bread. Also, a glass of lager. I do like decent food after all. Next month in England I will look forward to fish and chips, and some good pub food. Also, I do enjoy the breakfast provided by the B&B's. Had a great meal at the Punch Bowl in York.
Jan 19th, 2008, 11:46 AM
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and I agree with suze! I suspect there's a reason you're looking forward to fish & chips in England even though you could make a run the Captain D's (depending on whether you've got one nearby of course). The fact that England is known for it's F&C makes it a real part of travel - knowing and experiencing that fact is not very different than knowing you might want to visit the museums or monuments or the tube.
Jan 19th, 2008, 02:38 PM
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At first I too was curious exactly what rogeruktm was posting about? Why would you ask why others have different interests or "values" than you do? Isn't it a given that we all have different tastes? Then when he called St. Cirq "grumpy" for pointing that out, I started getting the impression that the real reason for posting was to say "food isn't important and what I do is smarter. Why do people waste time and energy on special food?" Again. Isn't the answer obvious?
Why is this post any different than saying "Why do people bother to take a taxi when a bus will get them there" or "why do people stay in a nice hotel when all they really need is a bed?" The answers to all these questions and many more are the same -- because they can and because they want to. Period.
Why is this post any different than saying "Why do people bother to take a taxi when a bus will get them there" or "why do people stay in a nice hotel when all they really need is a bed?" The answers to all these questions and many more are the same -- because they can and because they want to. Period.
Jan 19th, 2008, 02:39 PM
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GSteed: The meat was like velvet.
And it was cooked entirely on the stovetop, simmering, not in the oven at 250.
Padraig: I know, I know, but I took a cue from the BB thread where everyone was raving about Ina Garten's BB and used a Pinot Noir, as she did.
We can call it a superb daube, if you like.
And it was cooked entirely on the stovetop, simmering, not in the oven at 250.
Padraig: I know, I know, but I took a cue from the BB thread where everyone was raving about Ina Garten's BB and used a Pinot Noir, as she did.
We can call it a superb daube, if you like.
Jan 19th, 2008, 02:56 PM
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Update on my breads.
The recipes are from Bernard Clayton's "Breads" - 1995.
The dill rye bread made with pickle juice is very good.
The M. Montfort's French Bread is not as good as Julia Childs's recipe.
I'll let you know how the pain au levain is after it comes out of the oven.
The recipes are from Bernard Clayton's "Breads" - 1995.
The dill rye bread made with pickle juice is very good.
The M. Montfort's French Bread is not as good as Julia Childs's recipe.
I'll let you know how the pain au levain is after it comes out of the oven.
Jan 20th, 2008, 06:32 AM
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I'm drooling for the breads, Ira. How did they turn out?
I don't think there's anything wrong with Roger's question, Mellen. I've hosted him here, and he's a boring man to feed, for sure (jst kiddin' Rog!), but if he really does want to know, it's a perfectly legitimate question
I could settle happily for a bowl of soup or a salad, provided they were the best bowl of soup or salad available.
I don't think there's anything wrong with Roger's question, Mellen. I've hosted him here, and he's a boring man to feed, for sure (jst kiddin' Rog!), but if he really does want to know, it's a perfectly legitimate question
I could settle happily for a bowl of soup or a salad, provided they were the best bowl of soup or salad available.
Jan 20th, 2008, 06:49 AM
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You either eat to live or live to eat. Enjoying what one eats is what separates us from the savages.
My opinion is that you should count yourself lucky. Those that don't care can save a lot of money. Let us just hope that you have some other obsession (art, architecture, history, fashion, design, etc.) that might make a trip to Europe worthwhile.
My opinion is that you should count yourself lucky. Those that don't care can save a lot of money. Let us just hope that you have some other obsession (art, architecture, history, fashion, design, etc.) that might make a trip to Europe worthwhile.
Jan 20th, 2008, 06:52 AM
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It's sightseeing for your tastebuds.
On the other hand, it depends on your interests what "sights" you can appreciate. Some people visit every Renaissance art museum in Europe, while others are bored stiff by a single one - all those Madonnas! Some people go to Scotland just for the golfing, or to Austria for the skiing, while others wouldn't know a good golf course or ski run from a bad one. Some people love hiking and can wax exquisite over the scenery, while for others, one pretty view is as good as any other. Some people go to Milan just for the opera, while others go only for the shopping.
To each their own - and a very good thing, too, or we'd all be at the same place, and then the crowds would really be something to complain about.
On the other hand, it depends on your interests what "sights" you can appreciate. Some people visit every Renaissance art museum in Europe, while others are bored stiff by a single one - all those Madonnas! Some people go to Scotland just for the golfing, or to Austria for the skiing, while others wouldn't know a good golf course or ski run from a bad one. Some people love hiking and can wax exquisite over the scenery, while for others, one pretty view is as good as any other. Some people go to Milan just for the opera, while others go only for the shopping.
To each their own - and a very good thing, too, or we'd all be at the same place, and then the crowds would really be something to complain about.
Jan 20th, 2008, 07:00 AM
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My DH likes food, but considers it something to fill him up. He is so not picky and is easily fed. (good for the wife, but not as good for the traveler )
I was raised in a house where Mom was a gourmet cook and when we vacationed, we planned dinner while eating lunch.
So, DH and I compromise on where we eat on vacation.
i am not a fancy eater, but enjoy a good meal. Usually dinner is our splurge meal on vacation and we eat light for breakfast and lunch.
)I was raised in a house where Mom was a gourmet cook and when we vacationed, we planned dinner while eating lunch.
So, DH and I compromise on where we eat on vacation.
i am not a fancy eater, but enjoy a good meal. Usually dinner is our splurge meal on vacation and we eat light for breakfast and lunch.
Jan 20th, 2008, 07:23 AM
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Where we live overseas....the food is not always the best. The chicken and pork are okay, but the beef is generally awful and there is really no fresh seafood to be had. So, for us - being able to get good food is a real treat.
On our recent trip to Rome and Venice, I think my younger son ate seafood (fish or shrimp) 80% of the time. DH wasn't far behind him. Our food bills are usually pretty high and while we could save money and eat more simply - the dinners together, enjoying good food and wine, are something we all enjoy.
On our recent trip to Rome and Venice, I think my younger son ate seafood (fish or shrimp) 80% of the time. DH wasn't far behind him. Our food bills are usually pretty high and while we could save money and eat more simply - the dinners together, enjoying good food and wine, are something we all enjoy.
Jan 20th, 2008, 07:36 AM
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A slight clarification is needed. When I visit people like Sheila I put on my best manners, eat what is served and enjoy the company of friends and family. What I still don't understand is planning a trip around food. Yes , I do like a salmon dinner, a steak and roast and the like, but I don't think about it. Perhaps in another attempt to explain and the reason why my question is not coming across as I would like, is most likely due to the upcoming trip for next month. Each winter, with the approval of my fantastic wife, I do a solo trip in Great Britain. I am on the go and the last thing I think about is food. I am really involved in the moment and the excitement of my trip. At days end I of course will eat. I will most often eat at a local pub and hopefully met some people. However, during the day it is a quick sandwich eaten on the go.
Jan 20th, 2008, 07:39 AM
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years ago I took a bicycle tour of the Loire Valley. The leaders of the tour had previously run gourmet tours in France and thus we ate at nice restaurants, including one 1 star restaurant. The meals were all great.
However, on the last day of the tour, we were on our own. Almost every person opted to have a quick picnic style meal from the butcher shop, fruit stand, bakery, etc.
3 hour meals every day gets old very quickly.
However, on the last day of the tour, we were on our own. Almost every person opted to have a quick picnic style meal from the butcher shop, fruit stand, bakery, etc.
3 hour meals every day gets old very quickly.
