Eurotrip 2011, 40 students to Paris/Florence/Rome/Athens/5 days on Aegean
Feb 13th, 2011, 12:48 PM
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<< I do not understand why this thread is also tagged "Turkey"???? when it includes one cruise ship stop in a small insignificant Turkish resort town. >>
It could be because Kusadasi is the port for Ephesus.
It could be because Kusadasi is the port for Ephesus.
Feb 13th, 2011, 02:20 PM
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Adrienne, OK, so, as you put it, members, interested in information about traveling to and in Turkey, should make the inference that a cruise ship stop in a small town could involve a visit to a historic site and that inference will help anyone else planning to visit Turkey.
Having followed this thread from the beginning, i believe that it would have been better to include it in Fodors Lounge.
RThe preparation and the organization that went into the tour is astonishing. It was exciting reading it. There is also some useful information for future student groups with tight budgets. However. tagging it with the countries, especially Greece and Turkey has no purpose, because there is absolutely no information on what they expect to do in these countries.
Still, i am looking forward to the Trip Report and i am hoping that it will be posted on the lounge, where more people could possibly enjoy the narrative.
Having followed this thread from the beginning, i believe that it would have been better to include it in Fodors Lounge.
RThe preparation and the organization that went into the tour is astonishing. It was exciting reading it. There is also some useful information for future student groups with tight budgets. However. tagging it with the countries, especially Greece and Turkey has no purpose, because there is absolutely no information on what they expect to do in these countries.
Still, i am looking forward to the Trip Report and i am hoping that it will be posted on the lounge, where more people could possibly enjoy the narrative.
Feb 13th, 2011, 03:23 PM
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Otherchelebi,
Sorry to disagree, but I think this post is properly placed. I, for one, almost never look into the lounge. I think few real travelers would see, much less read this thread on the lounge. I find the Lounge mostly full of discussions about anything but travel, and inhabited by opinionated and argumentative nit pickers. From your post above, I see you fit this characterization.
Sorry to disagree, but I think this post is properly placed. I, for one, almost never look into the lounge. I think few real travelers would see, much less read this thread on the lounge. I find the Lounge mostly full of discussions about anything but travel, and inhabited by opinionated and argumentative nit pickers. From your post above, I see you fit this characterization.
Feb 13th, 2011, 03:35 PM
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Otherchelabi,
Click on Teacher Canada's name and you'll see that she will follow up with a trip report offering useful infomation on the places they visit.. She has taken several student groups abroad in the past. I give her a lot fo credit for taking this on, something these students will remember for the rest of their lives.
Click on Teacher Canada's name and you'll see that she will follow up with a trip report offering useful infomation on the places they visit.. She has taken several student groups abroad in the past. I give her a lot fo credit for taking this on, something these students will remember for the rest of their lives.
Feb 13th, 2011, 04:03 PM
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otherchelebi - an interesting point you raise. When I started this thread about 15 months ago our destinations were set. I had no difficulty including France, Italy and Greece in the header, but wondered whether Turkey would be appropriate since we were spending such a short time there. I decided to include it because that was where I would look if I was searching for information about Ephesus (since Kusadasi and Ephesus are inextricably linked). I still believe it was the right choice. There are many thousands of travellers who, like us, will see only a small slice of Turkey. For those who spends weeks exploring all corners of Turkey, there would certainly be more information on other threads.
Part of the purpose of including information about the planning of the trip is to give Fodorites a taste of what is involved with international educational group travel. Unfortunately, I cannot write about our escapades at our destinations until we have been there. All things going well, I will get the chance to entertain (or bore) any readers here with some of the more interesting aspects of our 18 days away.
I am pleased to read that you have followed this thread from the beginning. I hope you will keep coming back. I look forward to your future contributions.
tC
Part of the purpose of including information about the planning of the trip is to give Fodorites a taste of what is involved with international educational group travel. Unfortunately, I cannot write about our escapades at our destinations until we have been there. All things going well, I will get the chance to entertain (or bore) any readers here with some of the more interesting aspects of our 18 days away.
I am pleased to read that you have followed this thread from the beginning. I hope you will keep coming back. I look forward to your future contributions.
tC
Feb 13th, 2011, 04:13 PM
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nukesafe and HappyTrvlr - thanks for taking the time to read this thread and contribute your thoughts. I appreciate your feedback. HappyTrvlr, I gratefully accept your wonderful compliment wherein you have assumed I am female. You must be picking up on my "gentler" side. I would like to state for the record that I am male and have been for my entire life. I mention this now in case later in this thread I make reference to standing in front of a urinal or something like that.
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Feb 13th, 2011, 04:28 PM
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TC, thanks for clearing up the latest issue. I thought I had remembered an earlier TR mentioning a wife so I had been assuming all along that you were a fellow, so Happytrav's comments threw me for a loop.
And I am glad that you are posting this in the Europe forum. I enjoy your planning details, and just love, love your trip reports. Your students and fellow chaperones are so lucky to be traveling with someone of your expertise, planning ability, positive outlook, and caring demeanor. Thanks for sharing!
And I am glad that you are posting this in the Europe forum. I enjoy your planning details, and just love, love your trip reports. Your students and fellow chaperones are so lucky to be traveling with someone of your expertise, planning ability, positive outlook, and caring demeanor. Thanks for sharing!
Feb 13th, 2011, 04:45 PM
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"i am hoping that it will be posted on the lounge, where more people could possibly enjoy the narrative." - totally disagree. I visit the lounge perhaps twice a year and would never have found TC's fascinating reports there. He writes about travel and his posts belong in the travel sections - and the planning is certainly an important part of travel. If lounge lizards want to read about travel they should visit the travel boards.
Feb 14th, 2011, 12:13 AM
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I have <i>never</i> visited the Lounge, and would have totally missed this wonderful thread had it been posted there. I have just now checked recent activity in the Fodorite Lounge, and found such riveting topics as: "How to clean old white grout in shower?" No thank you! 
Feb 14th, 2011, 04:18 AM
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O.K. I have been chastized enough.
I withdraw my comments and will direct travelers wishing to visit Turkey and Greece to read this thread to assist them in their planning.
By the way TC, Kusadasi and Ephesus are not inextricably linked, unless you arrive by boat. The town closest to Ephesus is Selcuk, which is closer to Izmir airport and also very close to the Izmir-Aydin motorway.
And i have maybe over a thousand contributions on mostly Turkey forums but a few on other countries.
I would have contributed to your thread also, but i did not see a connection and a question related to my experience or knowledge.
Please do read the following two trip reports, if you can spare the time:
1.http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...-of-turkey.cfm
received only 7 posts on the Europe-Turkey forums
2. http://www.fodors.com/community/fodo...and-travel.cfm
received 30 or so comments on the Fodor's lounge
I do not remember any of the posters writing above as having been on any of my previous threads on the Europe forums, except Heimdall who probably should learn how to clean old white grout in the bath basin before it is too late.
I think the lounge is a great learning experience for a non US resident. I found out a great deal about local and national US politics and why and how intelligent people think in quaint ways. And also how Americans and Canadians hate criticism about themselves and theirs and leash back with a vengeance, many times using bulverism to extend their arguments or become insulting.
I withdraw my comments and will direct travelers wishing to visit Turkey and Greece to read this thread to assist them in their planning.
By the way TC, Kusadasi and Ephesus are not inextricably linked, unless you arrive by boat. The town closest to Ephesus is Selcuk, which is closer to Izmir airport and also very close to the Izmir-Aydin motorway.
And i have maybe over a thousand contributions on mostly Turkey forums but a few on other countries.
I would have contributed to your thread also, but i did not see a connection and a question related to my experience or knowledge.
Please do read the following two trip reports, if you can spare the time:
1.http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...-of-turkey.cfm
received only 7 posts on the Europe-Turkey forums
2. http://www.fodors.com/community/fodo...and-travel.cfm
received 30 or so comments on the Fodor's lounge
I do not remember any of the posters writing above as having been on any of my previous threads on the Europe forums, except Heimdall who probably should learn how to clean old white grout in the bath basin before it is too late.
I think the lounge is a great learning experience for a non US resident. I found out a great deal about local and national US politics and why and how intelligent people think in quaint ways. And also how Americans and Canadians hate criticism about themselves and theirs and leash back with a vengeance, many times using bulverism to extend their arguments or become insulting.
Feb 14th, 2011, 05:01 AM
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thank you otherchelebi! for gifting me with a new word, I've read a lot of C.S. Lewis but somehow didn't encounter Bulverism -- such a useful coinage for a practice that I've probably been guilty of. (And I also just googled your screen name, and discovered how apt it is).
Feb 14th, 2011, 06:34 AM
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"I do not remember any of the posters writing above as having been on any of my previous threads on the Europe forums" - so what? I don't remember seeing you on any of my threads either, but I hardly think it's relevant to the current discussion.
"I think the lounge is a great learning experience for a non US resident." - I'm glad to hear it's serving a useful purpose for someone. For those of us who have the (mis)fortune to live in the US, and/or read the US press, it would be superfluous. (Although I rather doubt you're getting a well-rounded picture from the Lounge.)
"I think the lounge is a great learning experience for a non US resident." - I'm glad to hear it's serving a useful purpose for someone. For those of us who have the (mis)fortune to live in the US, and/or read the US press, it would be superfluous. (Although I rather doubt you're getting a well-rounded picture from the Lounge.)
Mar 17th, 2011, 01:15 PM
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oooh, you're there right now... let's see, if the itinerary is correct, you are in - ....
ROME!
Can't wait for you to come home so we can hear the joy, the sorrows, the surprises that you couldn't post about!
ROME!
Can't wait for you to come home so we can hear the joy, the sorrows, the surprises that you couldn't post about!
Mar 25th, 2011, 02:54 PM
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Good Evening, everyone
I am a parent of the group that teacherCanada took on this trip to Europe.... I believe that they have had an amazing time and what a wonderful opportunity that teacherCanada has given them... I would like to say thank you to him for this gift to the students... Does anyone have any suggestions that would help me out? They are due to return tomorrow at midnight.
teacherCanada had an abundance of conflicts to overcome before leaving on this trip and it is my wish to give him something to say thanks... Thanks for taking my daughter and for believing in this group of students enough to fight through the conflicts that were raised and still want to go...
Any suggestions would be welcome...
THANK YOU, teacherCanada.......
I am a parent of the group that teacherCanada took on this trip to Europe.... I believe that they have had an amazing time and what a wonderful opportunity that teacherCanada has given them... I would like to say thank you to him for this gift to the students... Does anyone have any suggestions that would help me out? They are due to return tomorrow at midnight.
teacherCanada had an abundance of conflicts to overcome before leaving on this trip and it is my wish to give him something to say thanks... Thanks for taking my daughter and for believing in this group of students enough to fight through the conflicts that were raised and still want to go...
Any suggestions would be welcome...
THANK YOU, teacherCanada.......
Mar 25th, 2011, 03:57 PM
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What a wonderful thought - to return the hard work and kindness of TC with something he will treasure.
I'm sure TC will do a trip report here after they return. I would get a bunch of photos from your daughter and other students (and possibly from TC) and put them all together in a photo book - the photos and blurbs from TC's trip report.
Various internet sites offer these books (I use Shutterfly and while I've never ordered a photo book they are always offering discounts on them). The books are either hard bound or spiral bound and look professional. Mac users can do this from their computers (don't have a Mac but I saw someone photo book who did it from her Mac). You upload the photos and place them on the book pages and there is room to write something about the photos. If I had taken a group of students abroad I would love this type of souvenir to remember all the great times and places the group experienced.
I'm sure TC will do a trip report here after they return. I would get a bunch of photos from your daughter and other students (and possibly from TC) and put them all together in a photo book - the photos and blurbs from TC's trip report.
Various internet sites offer these books (I use Shutterfly and while I've never ordered a photo book they are always offering discounts on them). The books are either hard bound or spiral bound and look professional. Mac users can do this from their computers (don't have a Mac but I saw someone photo book who did it from her Mac). You upload the photos and place them on the book pages and there is room to write something about the photos. If I had taken a group of students abroad I would love this type of souvenir to remember all the great times and places the group experienced.
Mar 25th, 2011, 04:09 PM
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What a great idea, adrienne! This site - http://www.blurb.com/ - works fine with PCs, but you do need to be careful about the size of the pictures.
Mar 25th, 2011, 06:12 PM
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Hi cbecker! I know you know it... but he sounds like a great teacher. I can't wait to hear about it!
Rather than anything materialistic that you hand him tomorrow, I would ask each child or parents (or together) to sit down and write a letter... and each put in their favorite two memories of the trip, what they learned and the funniest thing. Tie them all up with a big ribbon so he can enjoy them at his leisure. Maybe give them to him on the last day of school so he can enjoy them over the summer ?
The other thing I always try to do when I come across a great teacher is write a letter to his/her principal stating why they are so great and that it is unsolicited parent feedback. I figure it never hurts at review time.
hope your kid had a great trip!
Rather than anything materialistic that you hand him tomorrow, I would ask each child or parents (or together) to sit down and write a letter... and each put in their favorite two memories of the trip, what they learned and the funniest thing. Tie them all up with a big ribbon so he can enjoy them at his leisure. Maybe give them to him on the last day of school so he can enjoy them over the summer ?
The other thing I always try to do when I come across a great teacher is write a letter to his/her principal stating why they are so great and that it is unsolicited parent feedback. I figure it never hurts at review time.
hope your kid had a great trip!
