European Crossword Puzzle #8
#141
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Yes. Schoenberg is part of the Second Viennese School (along with Webern and Berg). His fame has obviously eclipsed that of Zemlinsky's.
Ok, you can take over now. I'll try not to play this game at all this week.
By the way, I could use a new job that involves trivia, if anyone knows of any.
Ok, you can take over now. I'll try not to play this game at all this week.
By the way, I could use a new job that involves trivia, if anyone knows of any.

#144
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I usually avoid attending concerts that feature any of the above composers. Call me "old-fashioned".
Unbeknownst to be, turns out that my BF has a CD with The Moldau by Semtana. I listened to it this weekend and really enjoyed it.
Unbeknownst to be, turns out that my BF has a CD with The Moldau by Semtana. I listened to it this weekend and really enjoyed it.
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I don't think that I've listened to the Moldau complete, but I've heard that most famous bit and can actually hum it.
I've been becoming more adventurous in my concert going. I think that I've heard the Berg Violin Concerto at least twice now -- people claim it's one of the most accessible works of the Second Viennese School. Give it a try. It takes some getting used to at first, but the finale quotes a Bach chorale and then transforms it.
Not all of Schoenberg's works are atonal. Actually a well-known piece is "Verklaerte Nacht" ("Transfigured Night"
. It's actually quite nice -- it's late romantic. The original version is one for string sextet, I think, but there's an orchestral version.
I've been becoming more adventurous in my concert going. I think that I've heard the Berg Violin Concerto at least twice now -- people claim it's one of the most accessible works of the Second Viennese School. Give it a try. It takes some getting used to at first, but the finale quotes a Bach chorale and then transforms it.
Not all of Schoenberg's works are atonal. Actually a well-known piece is "Verklaerte Nacht" ("Transfigured Night"
. It's actually quite nice -- it's late romantic. The original version is one for string sextet, I think, but there's an orchestral version.
#146
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This freed-slave (3 words: 6,7,4, "r" is 3rd letter of last name) invented this (9 letters) in order to record speeches of the senate. One of his invention was this symbol (one character) which we still use these days (the symbol has been used in this thread).
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Well, ok, I Googled the answer an hour ago --
Marcus Tullius Tiro for shorthand.
http://www.ualberta.ca/~sreimer/ms-c...e/abbrevtn.htm
But is the symbol an ampersand?
Marcus Tullius Tiro for shorthand.
http://www.ualberta.ca/~sreimer/ms-c...e/abbrevtn.htm
But is the symbol an ampersand?
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At first I thought "freed slave" "senate" -- isn't that the US instead of Europe? And then...inspiration! (Thanks to the ampersand clue.)
Marcus Tullius Tiro invented a form of shorthand to record the speeches of the Roman Senate. Right?
Marcus Tullius Tiro invented a form of shorthand to record the speeches of the Roman Senate. Right?
#152
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Nah, you give us a clue, KT. I should be working.
I do want to know if it's the ampersand symbol though. I didn't want to respond initially, but I figured that I should be vain and tell everyone that I know it but am not playing.
I do want to know if it's the ampersand symbol though. I didn't want to respond initially, but I figured that I should be vain and tell everyone that I know it but am not playing.

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Yes, both correct.
The symbol I have in mind is &. It was ET in Latin, which Tiro shorthanded it into &.
However, the term "ampersand" did not come into history until much later. & was supposed to be the 27th letter of the alphabet. When the alphabet was recited, it ended with "and per se and" which became "ampersand".
111op & KT you two and fight over who gives the next clue!
The symbol I have in mind is &. It was ET in Latin, which Tiro shorthanded it into &.
However, the term "ampersand" did not come into history until much later. & was supposed to be the 27th letter of the alphabet. When the alphabet was recited, it ended with "and per se and" which became "ampersand".
111op & KT you two and fight over who gives the next clue!
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A famous painting cycle in a city of masks and glass.
The exact location of the cycle, kind of a predecessor to a frat house, is 5 words (6, 6, 2, 3, 5).
The first word starts with the S in Marcus. The penultimate word starts with the S in Tullius. The last word begins with the R in Tiro.
And the artist is 10 letters, 8th letter T as in Tullius.
The exact location of the cycle, kind of a predecessor to a frat house, is 5 words (6, 6, 2, 3, 5).
The first word starts with the S in Marcus. The penultimate word starts with the S in Tullius. The last word begins with the R in Tiro.
And the artist is 10 letters, 8th letter T as in Tullius.

