Ha! I just read the first sentence of the Czerny article, and could not agree more:

< Say the name Carl Czerny to most pianists, and you will probably see their fingers start to twitch from motor memory. >

Well, yk, sometimes you can't take these clues too literally. Sorry about the miscount.

I'm sorry about the e-mail address -- it's actually opNOSPAM111 (take this and repeat it twice) @hotmail.com .

That makes more sense. I don't know why I didn't put the op in front of the 111 when I signed up for Fodors....

By the way, I really don't check that account much at all. I check this thread more often than that account (I do check my personal e-mails more often).

Are you doing a medical residency or something? It sounds like you were on call or something.

Anyway, I found that article interesting, and I actually know two people who studied with Leonard Shure (the one who taught Tommasini, the critic).

Actually, I lied, not that it matters. I actually know one person who studied with Shure. Another person is studying with a student of Shure's.

You seem to know lots of musicians! I have a sixth degree of separation connection to Isaac Perlman, but that's another story for another time.

Medical residency? Thank goodness no! I'm too old for that!

You must mean Itzhak Perlman?

I'm pretty sure that I can link myself to Perlman within 6 degrees. I actually sort of a know a professional violinist, so I can probably get there in very few links. If I use only people I know well, I can probably still get there within 6. After all, it's a small world, and I know people who've gone through music conservatories (and Perlman has a Juilliard connection, I believe).

Yes, Itzhak Perlman

#1 and #2 are probably the two best known painters of country #3. They lived during the 19th and 20th centuries. Though they are often discussed together and displayed in the same place, their styles and subject matter were totally different from each other. #1 is not as well known. His paintings are realistic, but are considered to have a spiritual quality as well. Their outstanding characterisitic is the way they convey the unusual quality of light in his homeland. Many of the paintings of #2 are strange and rather disturbing.

Now for some solid clues. #1's name has 6 letters in the given name, 8 in the surname. The 5th letter of his first name is the L from Liszt. #2's name has 6 letters in the first name, 5 in the last name. The 5th lretter of his first name is the R of Czerny. The name of their country (in English) has 6 letters.

Now for some special clues. You can say their last names as follows:

Painter #1:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DN + http://www.petsdoc.com/pics/funpages...os/iceberg.jpg


and Painter #2:


http://dingo.sbs.arizona.edu/~hharle...ur/Image22.jpg


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No, I didn't get around to scanning the photos yet. I'm lazy, and there are 10 rolls of film. Once I scan them, putting them on Ofoto will be very easy.

Yk, are you a nurse? Are you no longer in Philadelphia? 111op, are you a musician or a mathemetician or a computer person? You live in NYC? I live close to both NYC and Phila.

Hi cmt, I actually came to the lunch at Mangeoire (?), but you probably forgot. So we've actually met. I live in the city, yes. I'm most definitely not a musician (can't even read music). I'm not a computer person either, though I'm forced to do all sorts of things on the computer.

I've not read the clue yet. I'll check it later.

This may work better for the first of the three urls in the clue: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/BMLSS/Sole.JPG

P.S. cmt is unable to log in. Soemthing's wrong with the site.

testing whether I can post

This site is having a lot of problems....

They're painters from Norway.

#2 = Edvard Munch (for munching/eating)

Not sure about #1 though.

Adolph Tidemand? It doesn't fit the letter clue.

Correct so far. #1 made relatively simple rustic scenes with amazing the seasonal light that is apparently typical of Norway. I used one of them for an e-mail Christmas card. Try the sound clues, or do a search. You'll find it. I never heard of hism until a few years ago. I mentioned to someone that I was fascinated with a certain quality of light at twilight on a clear day (in real life, not art) and he told me about these paintings.

Harald Sohlberg?

Not quite sure how that relates to the fish (Rock Goby)

Well looks like you got it again, yk!

cmt- no, I don't live in Philadelphia anymore. I moved to Dallas earlier in the spring this year. Did you end up going to Longwood Gardens? And no, I'm not a nurse (I don't think nurses are allowed to work that many hours). Let's just say I work in the health care industry.

Yes, Harald Sohlberg. Picture of a sole (fish) plus an [ice]berg)

You both got it, so either of you can post the next clue.

I'll going to defer to yk on this one.

The following clue was quite fascinating to me.

The following 2 people were from the same town/city (5 letters) and they knew each other quite well.

Person #1 was most famous for using this equipment (10 letters) to discover this matter (8 letters). There is an award named after him which is presented every 10 years.

Person #2 was a painter. Only a limited number of his paintings exist. One of his most famous painting carries a title which contains the name of the city/town he was from, and the painting is now housed at (place: 11 letters).

According to some, person #1 sat as the model for a painting by person #2.

Person #1: Last name 11 letters ("e" = 2nd)
Person #2: Last name 7 letters
Person #1's equipment: 10 ("e" = last)
Person #1's discovery: 8 ("e" = 5th)
Person #2's painting location: 11
Their hometown: 5

"e" from Edvard

I think I know this one. Did you just read a certain article in a certain paper very recently?

I was actually thinking of doing a clue like this one, if it's the one I'm thinking of. I typed Person 1's name into Google and indeed there's an award after him, but I don't know if it's every 10 years.

By the way, I used Person 2's painting in a clue in an earlier thread, and cmt got it.

I guess you do read the nyt from cover to cover every day!

It was interesting to me, as I have read about Person #1 in a book way back when, and had no idea that he knew Person #2. Plus the fact that the 2 of them were in such different fields.