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Hi annhig, nice to see you! A Ukrainian player was hit unintentionally, his children to be were wondering if they would ever see the light.
My husband just left the room, not interested in football...
My husband just left the room, not interested in football...
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It's on our news - well the disgraceful behaviour of the English louts oops football fans and the Russians in Marseilles. What is it about that game that brings out that behaviour- here we have idiots setting off flares before and during matches .
#55
If Schweinsteiger played like that for us, he wouldn't be oj his way out.
The BBC and newspaper coverage of the problems in Marseille, seem to have put the blame for the trouble on the shoulders of the Russians, who did all the provocation and aggression. Inside the stadium they breached segregation to attack the English fans. UEFA have charged Russia and not England!
The BBC and newspaper coverage of the problems in Marseille, seem to have put the blame for the trouble on the shoulders of the Russians, who did all the provocation and aggression. Inside the stadium they breached segregation to attack the English fans. UEFA have charged Russia and not England!
#56
Rubicund - but it is never "our fault" - there is always somebody else to blame.
I've been a football fan since childhood, I've been a season ticket holder at my supported club for 20 years and I go to games with a diverse bumch of people - but I've never understood English "Football Culture".
I was at the world cup in 2010 - and as a rule you could join in with the fans of all nations - Germans, French, Italian, Argentine , Dutch, American - even Algerian.
Everybody mingled, most were just fans of the game come together to celebrate and enjoy the tournament - but not the English who rarely left their own groups, and seemed to compete to be the most xenophobic. People who'd spent thousands of pounds to fly 6000 miles to follow their team seemed more intent on fighting than supporting.
As I say, I don't get it. Banning won't help because the morons don't care.
I've been a football fan since childhood, I've been a season ticket holder at my supported club for 20 years and I go to games with a diverse bumch of people - but I've never understood English "Football Culture".
I was at the world cup in 2010 - and as a rule you could join in with the fans of all nations - Germans, French, Italian, Argentine , Dutch, American - even Algerian.
Everybody mingled, most were just fans of the game come together to celebrate and enjoy the tournament - but not the English who rarely left their own groups, and seemed to compete to be the most xenophobic. People who'd spent thousands of pounds to fly 6000 miles to follow their team seemed more intent on fighting than supporting.
As I say, I don't get it. Banning won't help because the morons don't care.
#58
Maybe the England supporters rarely left their own groups because we are notoriously awful at languages? We do have a small proportion of fans whose brains if put together wouldn't fill apiece of toast, but I'd guess that most countries have them. Look at the Italian Ultras and their counterparts in Spain, they're equally as idiotic.
They are morons and no, they don't care but the fault doesn't always lie with the England fans, as popular as it is to heap blame upon them. In this case it was clearly the Russians at fault and the TV pictures of Russians leaping over barriers and seats to get at the England fans was very clear.
They are morons and no, they don't care but the fault doesn't always lie with the England fans, as popular as it is to heap blame upon them. In this case it was clearly the Russians at fault and the TV pictures of Russians leaping over barriers and seats to get at the England fans was very clear.
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I've no doubt that some of the english fans were to blame for some of the trouble; they re no angels. But the Russians, about 150 of them, were reportedly so well organised, that the french could not arrest them:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36515213
I read somewhere that they had balaclavas with them - hardly normal headgear for Marseilles in June.
And now there are worries that they will turn up again in Lens for the England v Wales match as their match v Slovakia is on the day before in Lille - which idiot thought that bit of scheduling up?
I hope it doesn't end in tears.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36515213
I read somewhere that they had balaclavas with them - hardly normal headgear for Marseilles in June.
And now there are worries that they will turn up again in Lens for the England v Wales match as their match v Slovakia is on the day before in Lille - which idiot thought that bit of scheduling up?
I hope it doesn't end in tears.
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Ann, the TV pictures of the marauding Russian fans clearly showed a number wearing balaclavas. They obviously came equipped to cause trouble:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7077756.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7077756.html