Euro vs dollar
#21
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An article in todays The Incredible Shrinking Dollar will make you quite sad!
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/14/travel/14euro.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/14/travel/14euro.html
#22
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The exchange rate of the Euro against participating currencies was set irrevocably on Jan 1, 1999. You can bet the finance ministers made sure no country gained an advantage.
1 Euro equaled 6.55975 Francs equaled 1936.27 Lira equaled 1.95583 Marks
6.55975 Francs at $0.178 dollars per Franc equals $1.1676
1936.27 Lira at $.0006029 dollars per Lira equals $1.1674
1.95583 Marks at $0.5969 dollars per Mark equals $1.1674
The value of the Euro on Jan 1, 1999 - $1.1674.
The numbers above are from http://oanda.com/
The following is from:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/economy_fi...urrency_en.htm
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Origins of the euro: Final stage of EMU - birth of the euro
1 JANUARY 1999 Birth of the euro
The euro became the new currency for eleven Member States and a single monetary policy was introduced under the authority of the ECB, heralding the third and final stage of monetary union.
LEGALLY, THE PARTICIPATING NATIONAL CURRENCIES HAD CEASED TO EXIST and became ?non-decimal sub-divisions? of the euro.
Euro area financial markets switched to the euro, including foreign exchange, share and bond markets. New euro area government debt was exclusively issued in euro as from that day.
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The Euro dropped against the dollar because of economic reasons not because the the exchange rates were set incorrectly. The US stock market was booming, the US economy was stronger than Europe's and 2 year US Treasuries in 1999 were yielding more than 6%. The US dollar was a very attractive currency.
The Euro continued its decline until October 2000. Trading stayed in a narrow range until April 2002 when the Euro moved above $0.90 and began the extended move to $1.29 in February.
1 Euro equaled 6.55975 Francs equaled 1936.27 Lira equaled 1.95583 Marks
6.55975 Francs at $0.178 dollars per Franc equals $1.1676
1936.27 Lira at $.0006029 dollars per Lira equals $1.1674
1.95583 Marks at $0.5969 dollars per Mark equals $1.1674
The value of the Euro on Jan 1, 1999 - $1.1674.
The numbers above are from http://oanda.com/
The following is from:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/economy_fi...urrency_en.htm
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Origins of the euro: Final stage of EMU - birth of the euro
1 JANUARY 1999 Birth of the euro
The euro became the new currency for eleven Member States and a single monetary policy was introduced under the authority of the ECB, heralding the third and final stage of monetary union.
LEGALLY, THE PARTICIPATING NATIONAL CURRENCIES HAD CEASED TO EXIST and became ?non-decimal sub-divisions? of the euro.
Euro area financial markets switched to the euro, including foreign exchange, share and bond markets. New euro area government debt was exclusively issued in euro as from that day.
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The Euro dropped against the dollar because of economic reasons not because the the exchange rates were set incorrectly. The US stock market was booming, the US economy was stronger than Europe's and 2 year US Treasuries in 1999 were yielding more than 6%. The US dollar was a very attractive currency.
The Euro continued its decline until October 2000. Trading stayed in a narrow range until April 2002 when the Euro moved above $0.90 and began the extended move to $1.29 in February.
#23
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Suggestion: Quit worrying about currency conversion rates! Their are no ways that you can change them. Too much? Don't go. If costs are a concern...change hotels..eat less, buy nothing. Europe is still a great place to be! USA, Marriott or Travel Lodge? Best,least cost an Indian owned an operated motel.
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yesterday it cost $200.60 US to buy $150.00 Euros at phila. airport......banks, hotels and American Express all have different rates in Italy...they will quote you their "tourist rates" and then their fees...I'm sure they're remembering when $1.00 US was worth 2,250 lira and we got a lot more bang for our buck...
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also, we have a VERY short stop in paris and then on to Marco Polo a/p where we will be arriving in the morning.....so after baggage claim and customs we'd like to get right on a bus into Venice and be done with it...whatever works.....also, how can you be sure what the price of Euros will be next week, anyway ?
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You said:
"I've had one atm card chewed up in italy...no thanks"
Does that mean if you have a delayed flight you never fly that airline again? Or if you got in a wreck, you'll never drive a car again? Or if you arrived at a hotel you booked online and they didn't have your reservation, you'd never book a hotel on line again? The odds of an ATM chewing up your card are extremely minor. Do you travel alone? You should always have one backup card with you. I guess it's fine if you don't mind paying an extra 10% for your entire trip to go ahead and exchange money. I'd personally rather put that extra money to better use. .
"I've had one atm card chewed up in italy...no thanks"
Does that mean if you have a delayed flight you never fly that airline again? Or if you got in a wreck, you'll never drive a car again? Or if you arrived at a hotel you booked online and they didn't have your reservation, you'd never book a hotel on line again? The odds of an ATM chewing up your card are extremely minor. Do you travel alone? You should always have one backup card with you. I guess it's fine if you don't mind paying an extra 10% for your entire trip to go ahead and exchange money. I'd personally rather put that extra money to better use. .
#30
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popesa, it all boils down to "what makes one feel comfortable."
Push comes to shove and the airport ATM is out of order, I found that most taxi drivers/companies accept credit cards. If for some reason they don't, I'm sure you could negotiate with one to stop at an ATM machine on the way to your hotel.
Bottom line -- I never get Euros in the States. For my upcoming trip ti Ireland, I have about 10-12 Euros left over from a previous trip, and that will be sufficient for me until I get to Ireland.
Push comes to shove and the airport ATM is out of order, I found that most taxi drivers/companies accept credit cards. If for some reason they don't, I'm sure you could negotiate with one to stop at an ATM machine on the way to your hotel.
Bottom line -- I never get Euros in the States. For my upcoming trip ti Ireland, I have about 10-12 Euros left over from a previous trip, and that will be sufficient for me until I get to Ireland.
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I think on your very first trip you get euros in advance, enough to get you from the airport to the hotel. It gives you peace of mind and less hassle when you are jet lagged and negotiating a new country for the first time.
Then be sure to come home with 50-100 euros and you'll never have to pay the exorbitant rates in the US again.
Then be sure to come home with 50-100 euros and you'll never have to pay the exorbitant rates in the US again.
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For the record my comment above was not meant to say getting a hundred or 150 euro before you go, even if it costs you an extra $15 is a bad thing at all. I agree that if it gives you peace of mind, then the $15 is well spent. However, Popesa seems to indicate that's how he'd get all his euro on a trip, always exchanging dollars for euro and not caring if it costs him an extra 10% each time. To me that's either for the very wealthy or the very careless.
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PEOPLE, look at the big picture! Let's say you spend $2,000 US on your trip. At 1.20 to the dollar, you'll get 1,666.66 Euro. At 1.18, you'll get 1,695.
You know what that extra 28 Euro cost you? A big drop in your 401K if you have bonds in it, higher interest rates in the coming months on your credit cards, higher mortgage rates if you have an adjustable rate or are looking to move, and potentially a higher cost of living as the dollar is rising versus the Euro because of an expectation of inflation in the US.
So enjoy that extra 28 Euro!
You know what that extra 28 Euro cost you? A big drop in your 401K if you have bonds in it, higher interest rates in the coming months on your credit cards, higher mortgage rates if you have an adjustable rate or are looking to move, and potentially a higher cost of living as the dollar is rising versus the Euro because of an expectation of inflation in the US.
So enjoy that extra 28 Euro!
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