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Nov 18th, 2002, 08:18 AM

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Una

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What is the difference between dove and pidgeon?

Nov 18th, 2002, 08:33 AM

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Audubon

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Pidgeon is the last name of Walter, an old movie star. Pigeon is the bird/fowl; i.e. carrier, etc.

Nov 18th, 2002, 08:36 AM

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My favorite example of the Italians pronouncing English brand names according to Italian phonetics is "Coppertone", the sun screen. I've actually had difficulty convincing some Italians that this is not an Italian brand, as it sounds just fine in Italian (and means something like a big blanket or tarp, albeit spelled with only one "p" in Italian, and so would be just fine for the name of a sun screen). Colgate also sounds pretty funny when pronounced with three syllables.

Nov 18th, 2002, 09:14 AM

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Therese (just like Therese Malausseine?): Yu know? I am not even sure how is Colgate pronounced in English. I can easily pronounce "coppertone" (on the whole the name of the brand is composed of two rather common words), but Colgate... It is Colgate to me, I mean pronounced in Italian!!! I can't think of any other way of pronouncing it, no more than I would be able to pronounce an Italian word in English!

Nov 18th, 2002, 11:06 AM

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On the topic of the way Italians pronounce English, I think one of the most endearing things is the way so many seem to add a short "a" on to the ends of a lot of English words. I remember our bus tour guide in Rome pointing out walls that were built to defend against the "Barbarian attacks-a."

Nov 18th, 2002, 11:55 AM

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Alice: Colgate in English is pronounced as if it were another two common words, "cold" and "gate", except that you leave out the "d" in "cold". It's also the name of a university in upstate New York, by the way. For the non-italophones on the forum, the Italians say Colgate as cole-GAH-tay (more or less). Oh, and "Therese Malausseine" is not ringing any bells for me. A literary reference? Bringing up the question of your choice of names, presumably somehow connected to Mark Twain.

Nov 19th, 2002, 10:02 AM

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Cold gate?! you just opened whole new horizons to me! I am honest, I never cold have guesed about it ^_^ As for Therese Malaussene (there was an "i" too much inmy previous spelling), that's one character in the lovely Daniel Pennac "Malaussene" serie (http://tinyurl.com/2u0x).