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does this make sense? Provence help please.

does this make sense? Provence help please.

Dec 3rd, 2010, 09:20 AM
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DaveMM - sounds like we will just miss seeing you there! You have inspired me to book mas perreal sooner rather than later - I am not the only one who plans trips very far in advance.
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Dec 3rd, 2010, 09:20 AM
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Sundays & Mondays can be very dead days in cities. However, the "countryside" will be awaiting you and Gordes & Roussillon near St Saturnin will have shops open on Sundays. You would start Sunday with a visit to the fabulous food, antique, & craft market in l'Isle sur la Sorgue. Get to l'Isle sur la Sorgue by 8:15, walk through the market area & watch the vendors set-up their displays, have coffee & croissants at a cafe next to the church (where the TI is located, BTW), then hit the market at 8:45 & then outtathere bu 10:30 when the market gets mobbed. Regular shops will be open in l'Isle sur la Sorgue on Sunday.

So - it is best to start your visit to Provence in St Saturnin, then Uzes. Uzes has a market another day of the week (I think Wed) but it is a much smaller market.

All of this is explained in greater depth in my 27 page Provence Itinerary which I may have already sent you. If not, e-mail me at [email protected] & I'll e-mail you one.

BTW, Apt has a huge market on Saturday morning, so you may be able to catch the end of that - closes around 1PM. However, I think the market in l'Isle sur la Sorgue will staisfy your market visiting needs.

Stu Dudley
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Dec 3rd, 2010, 10:29 AM
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Stu - thanks! I do have your itinerary and should have read it over again before asking questions. I'll blame that on trying to do my full time job while sneaking peeks at my Fodors thread when I can. We will be in Aix for fri night/saturday morning so will be able to see the market there. I'm glad you reminded me about the L'isle sur la sorgue market, that helps me figure out the timing of things as I'd like to see that.
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Dec 3rd, 2010, 06:26 PM
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Turns out my husband doesn't like the plan for two one night stops at the end of the trip....so trying to decide whether to nix staying over in Aix or to just do 5 nights in one location (probably Luberon) and then two in Aix.
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Dec 3rd, 2010, 11:48 PM
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Why not spend your 1st Saturday night in l'Isle sur la Sorgue and wake up to the fabulous Sunday market(our favorite) as described above by Stu.Depending on when your train arrives in Avignon on Saturday you can visit Pont du Gard and/or the Palace of the Popes and the famous broken bridge of nursery rhyme fame.

Spend the rest of the time based at Kevin's B&B from where there are numerous day trip possibilities including to Aix(Tues & Thurs markets). We will be staying at Kevin's July 2011.

You can return to Paris from Avignon. It is a 1 hour drive from the B&B to Avignon TGV. You can leave after breakfast and take the train at 12:30 PM. Saves you car drop off charges of Hertz or Avis. Don't forget to buy your train tickets 90 days ahead and hopefully get a "prem" for 22 Euros each way.
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Dec 4th, 2010, 06:41 AM
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>>buy your train tickets 90 days ahead <<

Three months in advance. If you plan to travel on Sept 10, you should reserve on June 9 at 6:05 pm EDT (which is 12:05 am June 10 France time). That is 92 days in advance.

idTGV trains can be booked sooner.

Keroac on this forum has stated that PREMS sometimes are not available immediatly - he may have a point.

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Dec 4th, 2010, 10:24 AM
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Stu
Thanks for the exact ticket buying schedule and the additional information. One thing I discovered when "practicing" ticket ordering online: our 8 year old does not get the PREM ticket while the 12 year old does. This is not a big deal, but seems strange, that the fare for the 8 year old is 4 euros more than that of the rest of us. Anyone know if this is correct?
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Dec 4th, 2010, 01:24 PM
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Thanks very much for the train tips- I will have to put on my calendar three months before to remember to buy them (and practicing sounds like a good idea, as the few times I have tried to go on the train sites I've gotten confused - all I have is forgotten high school French)

Dugi_otok - Perhaps a good idea to stay in Isle sur la sorgue one night. I love the look of the town from what I can see online, although I haven't seen any hotels/b&bs that have caught my fancy yet...and am trying to avoid as many one night only stays as I can, but am consider it.
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Dec 4th, 2010, 01:28 PM
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Sorry for the atrocious grammar in the above post - meant to write "am considering it."
Another question I have - I am wondering about restaurants. One of the reasons I originally wanted to stay in St. Remy was I thought there were good restaurants there (and also that we could stay where we could potentially walk to them in the evening). Are there good places to eat in/around St. Saturnin les apt? (We don't mind driving a little bit, but don't want to be forced to0. What about UZes?
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Dec 4th, 2010, 01:41 PM
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There are loads of restaurants in Uzès. I have no personal recommendations although I am sure others will. In the meantime just googling the words "Uzès restaurant reviews" will get you started. Here's a link:

http://tinyurl.com/2bgftmk
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Dec 4th, 2010, 01:52 PM
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Yeah I suppose there are going to be good restaurants everywhere. I still can't decide between the following options:
1. 3 nights/4 nights split between Uzes and St. Saturnin
2. 3 nights/4 nights split between St. REmy and St. Saturnin
3. 5 nights in St. Saturnin/2 nights in Aix

I am usually not this bad at making decisions!!
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Dec 4th, 2010, 04:58 PM
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I'm not including Uzes where we had a lovely stay because it is in the Gard , not Provence and too far out to visit in one week, the Alpilles, Vaucluse and the Luberon. In two weeks we
were able to visit our favorite places including the Var and the Alps, but my late husband loved the drives with the scenery. If you do go to Isle. My favorite restaurant is Le Jardin du Quai
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Dec 9th, 2010, 09:34 AM
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My vote is for #1. Uzes was one of our favorite towns. The weekly market is fantastic and there are lots of restaurants and interesting architecture. It is a bit far west but close to the western sights of Provence.

I am not a fan of St Remy so #2 is out.

#3 would not allow easy access to the towns of western Provence so that would not work for me.
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Dec 9th, 2010, 09:51 AM
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I vote for NOTHING with St. Remy.
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Dec 9th, 2010, 11:03 AM
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Oh dear. Like you, Shar, I went back and forth over which town is best as a base because we (dtr and I) prefer one place from which we can do day trips/drives. Chose St Remy mainly because of Stu's rec as a good first time to Provence base. Now that i read what makes it a "good" base, i wonder...it sounds like kind of place we may not want (everyone speaks English, lots of tourist shops, etc For us, the other alternative was Uzes, but it is in quite different area (as Cigale says, not really Provence).
I love the looks of the flat we rented in St Remy, but now not so sure...back to the drawing board!
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Dec 9th, 2010, 11:32 AM
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If you want to avoid the tourists & much of the English in St Remy, stay there but only visit the town in the earlier parts of the morning and in the later afternoon & evening - when the day trippers won't be there. If you can speak Frence, the shop keepers will speak French to you - even if they realize that you are having difficulty.

I agree with InMiami - Aix is too far away from many of the popular sites in Provence. See the sites in Eastern Provence (incl Aix) from St Saturnin, & those in western Provence and the Gard from Uzes or St Remy. Avoid driving close to Avignon - except to visit Avignon (horrible sprawl to the north, east, & somewhat in the south.).

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Dec 9th, 2010, 11:41 AM
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Well, having just reviewed distances for day trips, i remember why i went with Stu's rec--St Remy is convenient for seeing the So we'll stick with it for this trip, and after a day trip to Uzes, see if it looks good for a future base ( and from what you Fodies say, it is!
We arrive into St Remy on a Saturday (the Sat-to Sat rental period) and will take amer-can's , Stu's and and Alessandra (even tho you warn against St Remy others' advice, be up and out early Sat to l'Isle Sur la Sorgue, and after market, head out out some other "plus beaux" villages eg menerbes,gordes. And we'll still have 4-5 days for r and r chez nous and/ or day trips into the countryside. Ah...to have more time!!
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Dec 9th, 2010, 11:43 AM
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Thanks Stu, for the advice about St Remy (time to visit, English,etc) Our emails crossed, but it gave me time to appreciate why I agreed with your rec in the first place, when i started to plan this trip. Merci encore, M. DudLEY!
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Dec 9th, 2010, 11:44 AM
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>>be up and out early Sat to l'Isle Sur la Sorgue, <<

Sunday to l'Isle sur la Sorgue. You won't be in Provence on the first Sat morning.

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Dec 9th, 2010, 11:58 PM
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Oops--many thanksfor keeping me organized, Stu. You're right...so after arrival to St Remy that first Saturday late afternoon for a week-long stay (driving from Carcassonne, with a Friday night midpoint stay between Sarlat and St Remy) and a good sleep, we'll be up early Sun a.m. for L'Isle Sur la Sorgue and nearby points... your printed Provence guide on hand!

Thanks for the advice-- we'll speak French as much as possible, and hope the shopkeepers don't answer us back too often in English!! My daughter had been studying so hard in her French class, with this trip as partial reward for learning well.

Thank you all for sharing Provence ideas f!!!
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