Digital Camera dilemna- advice please

Feb 11th, 2004, 05:14 AM
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Hi ekellyga,

As Gretchen says, bring along some extra flashcards. Edit them in the evening and erase the ones that are definitely not good.

You can also have a CD made.
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Feb 11th, 2004, 05:26 AM
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I was also torn between a Canon A70, and a Canon SD100 elph which is smaller, and uses a proprietary battery. I wound up with the SD100, just because it is so tiny - about the size of a cigarette pack, and has a rugged stainless steel case. The battery is quite small, and I plan on carrying an extra on our trip. I'm sure you would be happy with either one, they both take great pictures - don't let the proprietary battery scare you off the elph, however. Here is a great site for camera reviews:
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Feb 11th, 2004, 05:35 AM
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i also have a digital elph and have been extrememely happy with all the features (which includes manual mode, panorama and movie mode w/sound) and the quality of the lens, plus i love the small size!

i also bring extra flash cards and have a spare battery with me at all times (i go into manual mode 90% of the time, which sucks up battery power), then recharge them overnight. i take ALOT of pictures (about 400 a trip) and have never been in a position that i've run out of disk space or dealt with a dead battery.
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Feb 11th, 2004, 06:42 AM
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Someone mentioned that memory cards were really cheap now. Anyone have a memory versus film analysis? Such as how many rolls you would need to have used to get your memory purchase back? just curious.
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Feb 11th, 2004, 07:43 AM
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It's a complicated comparison because the film cost doesn't include processing and, if you add the processing, then the digital memory cost isn't comparable because it doesn't put a hard copy print in your hand without additional (and variable) cost, and many people don't bother with the actual print anyway.

But, if you want to compare the cost of just getting the image captured, then there's no comparison - digital wins hands down. You can get a 256 MB CF memory card for around $50 if you shop a bit. My 4 MP Canons, shooting at large size and fine resolution, produce JPEG files that average around 1 MB. A little of the card is taken up with housekeeping, leaving room for perhaps something like 220 images - a number that can increase 3 times or more if you go to smaller size and/or less resolution. At 220 images that equates to 6 36-exposure rolls of film, which I'm sure is well less than $50 these days, but the CF card can be downloaded and used over and over, virtually indefinitely. So in the long run digital is far cheaper, though as I said there are many other variables that need to be rolled into a fair comparison.
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Feb 11th, 2004, 07:50 AM
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Even the smaller memory cards (128M) are less money than the six rolls of film/processing they replace.

Buy a film camera? Even Kodak's bailing on those now. Leica's notoriously overpriced; just look how they've re-branded the Fuji digicams and jacked the price up.

Be sure and get the extra memory cards BEFORE you leave. They're twice as expensive in Europe.
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Feb 11th, 2004, 07:54 AM
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Comparing film price to memory price is an exercise but not terribly fruitful in my opinion. I thought I would never give up my film cameras but they are now paperweights. It is fun and instant gratification to have a digital. I have had a darkroom--and now have one in my computer. The cameras are so light--mine is not terribly small but will fit in my raincoat pocket when walking around Paris. I also especially LOVE not dealing with stacks and stacks of prints lying around. I can print exactly what I want and share them or display them. I can print sheets to make a record of our trip. Just an opinion.
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Feb 11th, 2004, 08:27 AM
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I?m getting ready to step up to a descent digital myself. I?m considering the G5 and the DiMage A1. The A1 has the powerful zoom which I really like, but from test shots I?ve seen, it seems that the color on the G5 is a bit better. The A1 is about $120 bucks more but the added zoom is huge. Plus it appears you can add standard filters without an adaptor. All my filters are 55mm. I?m hoping I can get a stepdown to a 49mm. Any suggestions or feelings from those who own either of these cameras. them? BTW, I just read on the Canon website that they are coming out with a Powershot Pro 1 8 MP. It is bound to be too expensive for a while.

Soulless? We seem to be getting a bit too attached to our mechanical devices. It?s a camera, film or not. I too love film cameras, but the bulk of carrying the extra lenses is wearing me down. I have a friend who is a professional photographer who swore by Leicas but know says he?ll never shoot another role of film again. I?m afraid that my fairly new Minoltas may become paper weights also.

If you are concerned about storage, you might consider an Image Bank. You can get 20GB of storage which should be at least 2000+ pictures at the highest resolution on a 5MP. You can get them for about $250.

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Feb 11th, 2004, 12:06 PM
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Efficiency isn't charming.

Teabags don't have the same effect as loose leaf tea. Double glazing is heat efficient, but lacks the qualities of traditional windows.

Leica do make digital cameras, so perhaps thats a good compromise, but it still isn't the same!
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Feb 11th, 2004, 01:52 PM
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It's not the same, but it's not worse. Open your mind to new possibilities.
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Feb 11th, 2004, 05:25 PM
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I just received a camedia digital which we will take with us to three or four cities and ten nights. I have a 256 card, I believe. How many pictures will this take and should I purchase another battery as well or will I be able to plug the charger in in the hotels?
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Feb 11th, 2004, 06:18 PM
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Since the original poster pointed out that he's a man and therefore doesn't have a purse or other tote for a bigger camera, I have the perfect tiny digital that is full of features and is an impressive 4.0 megapixel. I researched digitals for 3 months trying to find the perfect one that was the smallest I could get with all the features I wanted.

It is a Casio QV-R40, and if you buy it online thru a discount locator site like Dealtime, you can get it for around $240. It is about the size of a pack of cigs but has lots of features, including a very good zoom (optical AND digital). I was very leary, since at that price it sounded like one of those "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" things. And I already had a 2.1 megapixel that makes wonderful pics but was just bigger than I wanted to carry around.

Also, I have always thought of Casio of as a lesser, cheaper (in terms of quality) brand so that made me even more hesitant. But I finally decided, hey, if I don't like it, I'll send it back. I have read lots of articles that say when you buy a Canon or a Sony of anything you are paying the bucks for the brand. OK, I'm convinced. You couldn't buy this Casio off me now. It's the greatest!

So I'm looking forward to a couple of months in France this summer with my tiny Casio. I've bought a couple of 256 cards, a couple of packs of AA batteries to throw in my suitcase, and I'm ready to roll!
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Feb 11th, 2004, 08:26 PM
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Robbiegirl, I have the Olympus Camedia with 10X optical and 3X digital zoom. I have two 128 MB xD cards for storage. I shoot on the next to highest resolution and get very close to 400 pictures on the card. I would assume you could double that on a 256 MB card (or get the same using the highest resolution).

I have three sets of rechargeable batteries and have never used more than two sets per day and I keep my camera on all the time. I recharge in the hotel room at night (or in the car if we're driving). Be sure you take a European adapter plug (and converter if necessary). The car plugs work in any car lighter.

I do take my laptop with me to download the pictures every evening because I shoot 400+ pictures a day and don't want to deal with them later. After I download them, I burn them onto a CD so I have two copies of all originals. I store them in dated files and when I get home, I copy the ones I want to print onto a separate CD and have them printed professionally. I also create a DVD to play in the television set so the family can share memories.

The reason I switched to digital was because they were boosting strength of airport security scans and I was tired of worrying about my film being x-rayed. Now I don't have to worry!

My camera is a little large and heavy but does fit in my purse along with an extra set of batteries and xD card (which are tiny and very easy to lose!).
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Feb 11th, 2004, 08:52 PM
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great insight...btw if any one is interested canon is releasing updated versions of elphs and a75...that should mean price drops on the older models.

i must say that my paranoia probably stems from the fact that in the middle of my last trip my charger died and i was stuck w/out camera for the last 1.5 days of my big deal as i had seen most everything that i had already wanted to anyway. but it did stick in my mind.
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Feb 11th, 2004, 10:26 PM
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Suggestion: Dramatically improve the quality of your photographs - use a tripod. Hand/arm held cameras are subject to movement and subsequent image blur. Next, try some shots at various distances using flash enhancement. Make a record. Practical limit is less than 12 feet. Try Kodak 1600 film instead.
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Feb 12th, 2004, 02:51 AM
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ucsun - NEW Elph? I thought the s400 just came out though? what are they going to add...
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Feb 12th, 2004, 07:08 PM
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SalB, You have enough energy to do all that picture taking and download it all onto your laptop? I do not think DH would go for bringing a laptop with us. I will have to have a number of cards and do all the downloading when I get home. I have hardly used the camera but need to start pracitcing on it. Thanks for the suggestions. I will purchase extra batteries.
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Feb 12th, 2004, 09:10 PM
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they're coming out w/ the elph s500 and s410. i saw them at, which was a great suggestion.
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Feb 13th, 2004, 09:42 AM
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Again, buying a whole bunch of cards is more expensive than buying a portable hard drive like the Image Bank. It is reviewed on Steve's digicams and gets pretty high marks. The same amount of memory you can get with an Image Bank for $250.00 you would have to pay $5000 in memory cards to equal. I found them online at:

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Feb 13th, 2004, 12:09 PM
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buy the canon s400. we got a 256mb chip and took 200 pictures and still didnt fill it up. this camera is small enough to fit in your front pocket and you wouldn't even know it is there. plus it is a 4.2 mega pixel camera. camera plus chip etc. is about $500 at beach camera online.
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