Day trips from San Sebastian, Spain
Aug 3rd, 2013, 11:31 AM
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... and Bar Restaurante El Rincón, just behind the Cathedral in the nice Reyes Católicos area seems to be a find. Never been there (as I can remember), but will be checking it out in a couple of months. Sounds like a nice place full of locals, affordable and great food. Comes recommended by Leire at close by Pension Bellas Artes. I have lived there, and she knows what she's talking about: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restauran...ue_Countr.html
Mains around 8-9€ and three course Menú del Día for 10€: http://www.eltenedor.es/restaurante/el-rincon/18436
Mains around 8-9€ and three course Menú del Día for 10€: http://www.eltenedor.es/restaurante/el-rincon/18436
Aug 3rd, 2013, 12:54 PM
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Thanks once again for your suggestions. We have bookmarked all of them and are excited to follow your path. Will be thinking of you when we visit in October. All suggestions in the future will be welcomed. we feel as if your our tour guide and Happy for it 
Aug 3rd, 2013, 01:18 PM
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Travel44 You might like to read Guernica a story of the towm of the same name. Civil war, first carpet bombing by the Nazi air force at the request of Franco. Not much to be viewed. Only thing left to ponder is the ancient oak tree, the traditional focal point of the citizens. Sad tale, sad times, much neglected in history courses!
Aug 3rd, 2013, 06:01 PM
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Yes..It is a stark black, white, grey picture of tortured/suffering figures. it was on display in Madrid @ Reina Sophia when i was there..thunderstriking!!! Pic. was quoted answering a Nazi(or countryman of same) when asked if he (P) did the painting and P. said no you did!!!
Aug 3rd, 2013, 06:53 PM
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Amer-can that story is ususally considered apocryphal.
It was at MoMA for a number of decades because Picasso did not want it returned to Spain until there was democracy. At the Reina Sofía, it is accompanied by studies, which I do not recall being on permanent display at MoMA.
The Civil War still scars the Spanish soul. It seems the youngest generation will escape the emotion but not the consequences. Many think uberhip Spanish filmmaker Pedro Almodóvar's movie Volver, was about the lingering effects of the Civil War.
Anyone truly interested in art, please use other sources besides Rick Steves. His description of Las Meninas by Velázquez is lazy and uneducated. I understand that his books are written for those who just have a passing interest in art, but at least they should read something that is accurate.
It was at MoMA for a number of decades because Picasso did not want it returned to Spain until there was democracy. At the Reina Sofía, it is accompanied by studies, which I do not recall being on permanent display at MoMA.
The Civil War still scars the Spanish soul. It seems the youngest generation will escape the emotion but not the consequences. Many think uberhip Spanish filmmaker Pedro Almodóvar's movie Volver, was about the lingering effects of the Civil War.
Anyone truly interested in art, please use other sources besides Rick Steves. His description of Las Meninas by Velázquez is lazy and uneducated. I understand that his books are written for those who just have a passing interest in art, but at least they should read something that is accurate.
Aug 4th, 2013, 02:39 PM
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BigAleinstein,
<Many think uberhip Spanish filmmaker Pedro Almodóvar's movie Volver, was about the lingering effects of the Civil War>
Interesting, and I think they've got a point. Almodóvars movie was made quite shortly after the hundreds of mass graves from the Civil War and into the first years of the dictatorship - of which "everybody" knew about - started to be opened in 2002 all over the country and after the so called "Pacto de olvido/Pacto del silencio" (Pact of forgetting/silence) from the immediate post-Franco years was finally broken. This tacit pact of forgetting and silence was very important in the relatively peaceful transition to democracy when very few were interested in opening the scars of the past for a greater good. I think the title Volver/"Return" has a double meaning that points directly to this present day drama in Spanish politics and culture. The presumedly dead mother in the movie returns from the past to the present in very much the same way that the presumedly dead Civil War and dictatorship has returned from the past to the present of Spanish public life, and the daughter then has to return from the present to the past to face the horrors of her history in very much the same way that many Spaniards do today. As the line goes in Carlos Gardel's title song: "I am frightened of the meeting with the past that is returning to confront my life all over.
This was, as far as I know, totally overlooked in most reviews at the time both in Spain and internationally, and I would be grateful if you could provide links to people who have expressed similar views.
<Many think uberhip Spanish filmmaker Pedro Almodóvar's movie Volver, was about the lingering effects of the Civil War>
Interesting, and I think they've got a point. Almodóvars movie was made quite shortly after the hundreds of mass graves from the Civil War and into the first years of the dictatorship - of which "everybody" knew about - started to be opened in 2002 all over the country and after the so called "Pacto de olvido/Pacto del silencio" (Pact of forgetting/silence) from the immediate post-Franco years was finally broken. This tacit pact of forgetting and silence was very important in the relatively peaceful transition to democracy when very few were interested in opening the scars of the past for a greater good. I think the title Volver/"Return" has a double meaning that points directly to this present day drama in Spanish politics and culture. The presumedly dead mother in the movie returns from the past to the present in very much the same way that the presumedly dead Civil War and dictatorship has returned from the past to the present of Spanish public life, and the daughter then has to return from the present to the past to face the horrors of her history in very much the same way that many Spaniards do today. As the line goes in Carlos Gardel's title song: "I am frightened of the meeting with the past that is returning to confront my life all over.
This was, as far as I know, totally overlooked in most reviews at the time both in Spain and internationally, and I would be grateful if you could provide links to people who have expressed similar views.
Aug 4th, 2013, 02:55 PM
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I agree with your assessment Kim especially about the ghost of the mother. The scene with the scrubbing seems to be symbolic of trying to expunge the past is also highly evocative. I will trawl the Internet for those who posited the idea first, since I do remember exact cites.
Aug 4th, 2013, 06:50 PM
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Kim
I could not find the original reference but found one post facto.
The more I think it about the movie the greater the symbolism and allegories especially about the mysteries surrounding the ghost being the war itself. And Raimunda's rape, being Spain, and the unfortunate consquences.
http://blogs.exeter.ac.uk/screentalk...7-june-6-30pm/
I could not find the original reference but found one post facto.
The more I think it about the movie the greater the symbolism and allegories especially about the mysteries surrounding the ghost being the war itself. And Raimunda's rape, being Spain, and the unfortunate consquences.
http://blogs.exeter.ac.uk/screentalk...7-june-6-30pm/
