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Boulevard Clichy in Paris - Okay with kids?

Old Nov 14th, 2019, 06:11 PM
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"Mommy, why's the man dressed up as a lady?"
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 12:59 AM
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Kids know a lot more than you think they know. I was sitting with my 9 year old on Chicago's famous Broadway bus, when a lovely "lady" walked by. My son piped up, "Nice t-ts for a guy" as "she" passed us. That Clichy area in the 9th was very famous in today's sense of "bougy." Zola, Berlioz, Bizet, Turgenev, Geroge Sand and more lived there. The lovely Musee de la Vie Romantique is close by.

And then there's this right at Pigalle
https://www.pariszigzag.fr/secret/hi...-privee-hantee

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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 03:06 AM
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I've never heard bougie from an American, either. I thought Thin was saying he was a candle.

Envierges, that's hilarious
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 05:10 AM
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More about "bougie" -- https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bougie
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kerouac View Post
More about "bougie" --
Glad you found that. No R.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 06:32 AM
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Starrs is spot on with the slang word. I hear it among the 20 somethings and it is no big deal here.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by starrs View Post
But it's not a lazy nor ignorant mispronunciation of a French word as implied.
So that would just make the gross mispronunciation of bourgeois by many Americans lazy and ignorant if bougie is correct.

Let's keep beating a dead horse, though: https://genius.com/a/from-bourgeois-...gos-bad-boujee

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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 06:39 AM
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Bougie!

BOO GEE!

Learn it, Queen!

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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 06:52 AM
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Now that you have identified your cultural standing, you probably won't even be allowed in the Marais any more, Pepper.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kerouac View Post
...if bougie is correct.
Bougie is a slang word. The origin was provided for you. It is "correct" when used as a slang word. The R is not "missing".

BTW, that link is the same one I posted.

Dissecting the correctness of "bougie" as a current slang word makes as much sense as "experts" dissecting the use of "Far out!" in the 70s.

It's slang. Popularized by John Denver or Migos, it's just slang. Like it. Don't like it. But the approval of non-users won't impact the use of the word or phrase, until it is no longer trendy and the use dies out.

Far out!

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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kerouac View Post
Now that you have identified your cultural standing, you probably won't even be allowed in the Marais any more, Pepper.

Just curious. What is the "cultural standing" he's identified?
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 07:19 AM
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>Marais<

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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by starrs View Post
Bougie is a slang word. The origin was provided for you. It is "correct" when used as a slang word. The R is not "missing".

BTW, that link is the same one I posted.

Dissecting the correctness of "bougie" as a current slang word makes as much sense as "experts" dissecting the use of "Far out!" in the 70s.

It's slang. Popularized by John Denver or Migos, it's just slang. Like it. Don't like it. But the approval of non-users won't impact the use of the word or phrase, until it is no longer trendy and the use dies out.

Far out!

I wrote a paper on the phrase “far out” for an anthropology seminar in college. I couldn’t think of anything to write and was thinking of leaving the class, but the professor said just write about anything you want. I made it up out of my head. It had a sociolinguistic slant. It’s probably in that box in the attic, but I’d be embarrassed to read it.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by starrs View Post
Just curious. What is the "cultural standing" he's identified?
Pepper wrote this earlier on the thread:
I am very bougie, so I don't like the area you are staying in.
That says it all. Far better to stay on unpretentious Boulevard de Clichy than in the land of poseurs.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kerouac View Post
That says it all. Far better to stay on unpretentious Boulevard de Clichy than in the land of poseurs.
"That says it all"
Glad it's clear for you. I still don't "get" your Marais comment.

I do agree with Pepper about the proposed location. I'd prefer to stay elsewhere, especially with kids. But it has nothing to do with with the sex shops. I'd prefer the 6th or the Marais. Personal preference.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nikki View Post



I wrote a paper on the phrase “far out” for an anthropology seminar in college. I couldn’t think of anything to write and was thinking of leaving the class, but the professor said just write about anything you want. I made it up out of my head. It had a sociolinguistic slant. It’s probably in that box in the attic, but I’d be embarrassed to read it.

If you dig it out, I would love to read it!

I remember my father being bothered by "far out". I remember just looking at him and wondering what he could POSSIBLY be bothered about. I'm sure his generation had similar nonsensical trendy words/ phrases. It's not unique to any generation. The words change but the use of trendy slang is universal.

I remember the first time I read "bougie" on a FB post - a comment on one of my niece's post. My guess is that it was three years ago. I just checked to see when the Migos song was released. 2016. It's anyone's guess how long it will stay in use.

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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 08:07 AM
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I was more offended by the tern "Roma", but I know it wasn't being thrown around as a hate term.

Still, in following Kerouac's definition of bougie I discovered a whole new level of argot below the argot.

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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 08:35 AM
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I never said that the pronunciation of "bougie" was wrong. I just said that the term was stupid, considering its origin. That is just my opinion. You can love the term all you want and use it in every sentence.

<< I still don't "get" your Marais comment. >> Starrs, that is simply where Pepper stayed on his last trip to Paris. So if he is really a totally uncouth bougie, it does not seem appropriate. There are lots of trashy places to stay in Paris for people who think they are bougies.

<< I was more offended by the tern "Roma", but I know it wasn't being thrown around as a hate term. >> Lots of people think that Roma is a PC term to avoid saying gypsy, without realizing that the vast majority of gypsies in France are not Roma and are extremely insulted if you call them that.

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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kerouac View Post
I never said that the pronunciation of "bougie" was wrong. I just said that the term was stupid, considering its origin. That is just my opinion. You can love the term all you want and use it in every sentence.

<< I still don't "get" your Marais comment. >> Starrs, that is simply where Pepper stayed on his last trip to Paris. So if he is really a totally uncouth bougie, it does not seem appropriate. There are lots of trashy places to stay in Paris for people who think they are bougies.
Re paragraph 1 - This is what I read in your post that launched the discussion of the slang word. What you said there is in odds with what you just said -

"What shocks me is using the slang term "bougie" I know that many Americans pronounce the word "bourgeois" or "bourgeoisie" as though there were no R in the word, hence the appearance of "bougie." But using the term indicates to me that the person has no idea what a bouRgeois is. Perhaps Thin is just an uncultured nouveau riche. A yet he has up to now given me the impression that he is better than that."

I don't "love" the word, but I do understand it is current slang.

Re paragraph 2 - I don't think you understand the meaning of the slang word "bougie".

I'll leave this topic now because it seems as any time/ energy spent on it has already been wasted time and energy. It's a slang word and no R is missing.
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Old Nov 15th, 2019, 09:11 AM
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