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Old Oct 12th, 2023, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by travelingmom72
Yes, this has been a nightmare and there is no consumer protection on these NON REFUNDABLE rooms, even when booked by mistake.
Travelingmom: it is really abominable, and completely indecent if the hotel charged you $9200, if it was a genuine mistake that you cancelled immediately, SO far in advance. This is a complete abuse of the 'nonrefundable' stipulation - - for one thing, it was cancelled so quickly and was so far in advance that it is an absurdity for the hotel to claim that your booking caused them financial hardship (e.g., not able to secure other bookings for that time period).

This is a matter of common decency that you may get help from, from a prominent travel blogger, or a prominent consumer advocate who reports on injustices in getting people refunds. Or, no joke, you should contact a legislator - - either someone local to you like a congressman - - or in the area of the hotel - - research which legislators tend to be prominent consumer advocates.

This is definitely an abuse of any rational principle underlying non-refundable bookings - - it may meet the letter of the law, but there are times when some form of reclamation is reasonable and deserved. Please do contact the right people in this regard, and try different options. The reason you have heard such unanimous blowback here is that blaming Booking.com is barking up the wrong tree. They should not be liable for the $9200 any more than you reasonably should. Please don't denigrate Booking.com for being in the position they are in, but please do pursue legitimate consumer advocates who can publicize and lobby on your behalf, so that the hotel, which is making money hand over fist in an unscrupulous way, that is essentially unjust, will relent.
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Old Oct 12th, 2023, 12:45 PM
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The hotel is in LONDON - you really think a US legislator has sway?? Now - Christopher Elliot might be able to help.
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Old Oct 12th, 2023, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by janisj
The hotel is in LONDON - you really think a US legislator has sway?? Now - Christopher Elliot might be able to help.
Yes, he helps a lot of people who make mistakes in bookings. elliott punctuation.mark org. The second t is required.
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Old Oct 12th, 2023, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by janisj
The hotel is in LONDON - you really think a US legislator has sway??
Not political sway. Publicity sway. Calm down.

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Old Oct 12th, 2023, 01:39 PM
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Actually the state of Texas has a large class action lawsuit against Booking.com for deceptive practices. If you operate in the US as a website you must follow US laws. The State of CA is enacting a 24 hour cancellation window as well
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Old Oct 12th, 2023, 02:20 PM
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Actually the state of Texas has a large class action lawsuit against Booking.com for deceptive practices. If you operate in the US as a website you must follow US laws. The State of CA is enacting a 24 hour cancellation window as well
Probably none of which has anything to do with a contract with a London hotel. (I notice you have a total of seven posts on Fodors and every one of them is about booking.com -- seems a bit of an obsession?? )
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Old Oct 12th, 2023, 02:21 PM
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never mind -- falling on deaf ears

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Old Oct 13th, 2023, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by janisj
Probably none of which has anything to do with a contract with a London hotel. (I notice you have a total of seven posts on Fodors and every one of them is about booking.com -- seems a bit of an obsession?? )
Congress is currently confronting the travel industry on: 1) resort fees; hiding exorbitant charges behind what seem to be low daily hotel rates; 2) the deceptive listing of airfares without taxes and all sundry charges included. If a 'travelmom' (if she is indeed this and not a troll) can get socked for an unjust $9200 then this can lead to legislative advocacy that might be worth pursuing. It's better than pursuing Booking.com for things outside of their control.
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Old Oct 21st, 2023, 09:47 AM
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I would stay away from them. I just respond them for one of their offers that come on my mailbox. I just read another complain about being charged in Dolars.as happened
to us when the invoice was stipulated to be paid in local currencies.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2023, 07:34 AM
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got any statistics on this? How many bookings world wide, how many complaints etc? I've always found them incredibly helpful and sensible. Did you talk to the hotel about this in a positive way?
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Old Oct 22nd, 2023, 07:53 AM
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I would stay away from them. I just respond them for one of their offers that come on my mailbox. I just read another complain about being charged in Dolars.as happened
to us when the invoice was stipulated to be paid in local currencies.

Did you by any chance opt for dynamic currency conversion when paying at the hotel? It is not illegal . . . it is the responsibility of the customer to understand the choices offered when using a credit card whether in a restaurant, at a hotel, or in a store.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2023, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by janisj
Did you by any chance opt for dynamic currency conversion when paying at the hotel? . . . it is the responsibility of the customer to understand the choices offered when using a credit card
We do live in an ever more elaborately woven information age. One great thing about Booking.com is they provide the most elaborate and transparent conglomeration of information anywhere - - this is a HUGE benefit to people who actually pay attention and don't gloss over the details, though I can imagine it can be a real challenge to those who plow through webpages where everything is painstakingly and faithfully explained, but doesn't get paid attention to by those making 'top down' assumptions about what is printed there in black and white, and instead act on assumptions that are wrong, and ignore what is actually there. Booking.com is the greatest booking tool ever - - brilliantly so - - for people who actually read what is written on the page. But it gets all the blame, posted online in rants, from those who apparently have trouble coping with the vast amount of information we have to deal with in this information age.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2023, 12:48 PM
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They do make mistakes, or their client hotels do. I have a confirmation from this past summer, when I first made the reservations, which stipulated "cash only". For some reason I looked at the web site and "credit card only" was stipulated. Booking did have my credit card information and billed me for another stay when I did not pay within five days of occupancy; no problem, I did not have to worry about paying. But it turned out that the second booking--cash or credit card?-- was another kettle of fish. If the cash option was valid a few months before, logic tells me that there is a clerk to take the cash. If not, Booking would pay using my credit card information. Neither turned out to be true, and for a moment it appeared we were at the doorstep of our hotel without a reservation because we had not paid in advance.
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Old Oct 23rd, 2023, 04:45 AM
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Probably worth reading this if you have not experienced Booking.com

https://lesboutiquehotels.com/booking-com-reviews

One year I used Booking and Hotels over 14 nights, staying each night in a different hotel. Hotels was not as good.

On the other hand https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.booking.com

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Old Oct 23rd, 2023, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bilboburgler
Probably worth reading this if you have not experienced Booking.com https://lesboutiquehotels.com/booking-com-reviews
Thank you Bilgboburgler - - that is a clear (and very thorough) illumination of how to book at Booking.com, and what to pay attention to. If the people giving the amazing variety of 1* reviews at the TrustPilot link you also sent had read it, perhaps they would not be as vociferous in their complaints. But my guess is they won't read that article thoroughly in the same way they might not examine the details thoroughly when they make bookings.

My favorite so far is this one: Booking.com gets a 1* review solely because their listing of a hotel indicates that the room has a safe, but does not specify in all instances when the word 'safe' appears on the page that there is a charge for using the safe (in other words, the complainant did not read the page fully where they list conditions, and is slamming Booking.com for that):
"In a hotel I recently visited, using the safe cost extra. I complained to Booking, who then told me that this is what it says on the hotel's page [where they detail conditions] and that it is not listed in the room description [where they list 'safe' as one of the room amenities]. The whole thing was described in an extremely friendly manner with the statement: “We advise you to read the small print carefully next time.” It's always great when you have to refer to the small print because you don't want to just put an asterisk next to the word "safe" in the room description. If customer service writes to you with: "We advise you to read the small print carefully next time", then the customer is definitely not the focus of the company..."
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Old Oct 24th, 2023, 12:50 AM
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Since I live with an avid small detail reader I find the idea of not reading the small print a little odd. Booking do what they say on the can, they let you make bookings. I would not lodge a card in it especially after the data loss they had more than 5years ago. Would I use any other service, well yes but only in unique zones. For instance, there is a dutch b&b service I use in the low countries, a weird french small hotel service in France and a farm stay portal in Italy, but otherwise Booking is pretty good, while there will always be people who cannot make good decisions who moan and complain trying to blame others for their own errors.
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One thing I've noticed is people make assumptions. They assume things are the same everywhere. That leads to them skimming over things.

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Old Oct 24th, 2023, 01:56 AM
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Nick +1
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Old Oct 30th, 2023, 07:33 AM
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Just got an email. from Booking.com for a reservation I planned for next week. Your credit card will be debited for the amount of.......
But why I asked. I relay on the info you provided as I booked this hotel: The credit card info is used to reserve the stay. The payment will be done at hotel in local currencies. Why you want to charge my card. I am original from that country, and I have a vast amount of the local money from my pension. I took you at your word. I want to pay as I was informed in local currencies. Why change the rules halfway.
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Originally Posted by bucurilie3603
Just got an email. from Booking.com for a reservation I planned for next week. Your credit card will be debited for the amount of.......
But why I asked. I relay on the info you provided as I booked this hotel: The credit card info is used to reserve the stay. The payment will be done at hotel in local currencies. Why you want to charge my card. I am original from that country, and I have a vast amount of the local money from my pension. I took you at your word. I want to pay as I was informed in local currencies. Why change the rules halfway.
If they are so horrible and have "overcharged" you in the past, why in the Hell do you have a reservation with them, then?
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