Best small village in England
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There are a lot of castles in England that are ruins. Like Corfe Castle, Dunstanburgh Castle, or Tintagel Castle (to name a few) which are classics for a tourist visit. Why so negative about Kendal Castle?
I have been to Kendal, and stayed nearby for several days, but I did not bother to visit the castle.
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I think this is Important information omitted from this thread but emphasized in the earlier thread . . . This is a surprise trip for the 60 something parents of the OP celebrating their 40th anniversary. I sure wouldn't want to stick my apparently 'non-travel savvy' parents (never been on an airplane) in some back water village or even small town miles from the famous sites they may actually want to visit.
I honestly think the whole idea makes no sense -- IMO they need to be in a place with lots of easy transport options. Lots of places to eat. Lots of sites to fill their days. Parks and gardens. Walkability. According to the OP the parents have always dreamed of traveling to England so my guess they already have a wish list. One thing for sure -- I don't think this should be a surprise trip. The parents should pick the location(s) and do what they want to do.
I do believe the OP may have a skewed idea of daily life in a bucolic English village.
I honestly think the whole idea makes no sense -- IMO they need to be in a place with lots of easy transport options. Lots of places to eat. Lots of sites to fill their days. Parks and gardens. Walkability. According to the OP the parents have always dreamed of traveling to England so my guess they already have a wish list. One thing for sure -- I don't think this should be a surprise trip. The parents should pick the location(s) and do what they want to do.
I do believe the OP may have a skewed idea of daily life in a bucolic English village.
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In other words, they probably need to be in London, and then Oxford or Cambridge, Bath and/or York. But they should be consulted. This is like birthday presents. In my family we wrote lists, so whatever you got was something you actually wanted. I just cleared out a cupboard of stuff that will go to Goodwill/equivalent and it was all items I had been given by friends.
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A good number of English villages has no pub, no shop, no bus service or school. They are basically dormitories.
Anywhere vaguely touristy/popular is also full of second homes so even emptier of life.
They are not like the villages in Midsomer Murders or whatever.
I have family stuck in what were once thriving villages and who are now cut off from anything without a car.
Please talk to your parents about this trip. It is still a surprise for them, but one which they can enjoy more by having some input into it.
Don't leave them stuck in some "idyllic" rural desert.
You never know they may actually want to spend their time in London with the occasional day trip.
Anywhere vaguely touristy/popular is also full of second homes so even emptier of life.
They are not like the villages in Midsomer Murders or whatever.
I have family stuck in what were once thriving villages and who are now cut off from anything without a car.
Please talk to your parents about this trip. It is still a surprise for them, but one which they can enjoy more by having some input into it.
Don't leave them stuck in some "idyllic" rural desert.
You never know they may actually want to spend their time in London with the occasional day trip.
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If I were planning this trip, for 60-ish newbies, there would be at least a week in central London, with a day trip to Windsor, and possibly Kew and/or Greenwich. Maybe even longer in London, with a day trip to Canterbury, Dover and/or Brighton. Maybe even Ryde. Then at least three days/four nights in Cambridge, with a day trip to Ely and probably Evensong in King's College chapel (religious (dis)belief irrelevant). Up to York, and then Durham, with a side trip to Hadrian's Wall. Then Edinburgh. Can be done in either direction, and might be better to start in Edinburgh, a much smaller and more compact city than London.
Another option between London and the north would be Rick Steves' tour of Southern England. It used to be called Villages of South England, but apparently villages didn't sell and now pretty much the same itinerary is just Best of South England: https://www.ricksteves.com/tours/eng...uthern-england
Another option between London and the north would be Rick Steves' tour of Southern England. It used to be called Villages of South England, but apparently villages didn't sell and now pretty much the same itinerary is just Best of South England: https://www.ricksteves.com/tours/eng...uthern-england
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Thanks for all of the replies. We are going through a lot of the suggestions. As some of you already pointed out, this is a trip for my parents. They now know about the trip and are thrilled to go. I specifically asked them about where they wanted to go and they specifically said they wanted to stay in a village. Can't argue with that!
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MmePerdu makes a very valid point. Staying in an idyllic English village without their own transport without their own car will effectively mean they will be going nowhere for the duration. Many, if not most of these small villages will have VERY limited public transport options. One bus a day or none at all, is not uncommon. Even if they did rent a car, if they haven’t even been on a plane, would they be happy be happy driving our wonderfully winding and narrow country lanes on the wrong side of the road?
However, clearly, you know your parents better than anyone here, how do you feel they cope?
However, clearly, you know your parents better than anyone here, how do you feel they cope?
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So maybe the castle is off the requirements and a definite yes for a village.
Here are some things to help you.
On the way to Scotland and North of London.
explorethecotswolds.com/cotswolds-by-public-transport
greentraveller.co.uk/post/car-free-guide-yorkshire-dales-national-park
yorkshire.com/about-yorkshire/getting-around-yorkshire/transport/getting-around-yorkshire
visitnorthumberland.com/travel-tips/while-youre-here/getting-around
lakedistrictonboard. com
These are guides and posted to help you make up your mind if public transport and staying a a village can be on the agenda. Only you can decide that. You have to make some choices .
Here are some things to help you.
On the way to Scotland and North of London.
explorethecotswolds.com/cotswolds-by-public-transport
greentraveller.co.uk/post/car-free-guide-yorkshire-dales-national-park
yorkshire.com/about-yorkshire/getting-around-yorkshire/transport/getting-around-yorkshire
visitnorthumberland.com/travel-tips/while-youre-here/getting-around
lakedistrictonboard. com
These are guides and posted to help you make up your mind if public transport and staying a a village can be on the agenda. Only you can decide that. You have to make some choices .
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It is possible to tour the UK by public transport. I have done it, but I did not stay in non-touristy villages. The smallest place I have stayed was Lyme Regis, but while its year-round population is just under 5,000 it is very definitely on the tourist circuit. That is why I had a choice of where to stay, and where to eat. It is also has reasonable bus service. You can read about that trip here: England and Wales by public transport
I would say that driving on rural roads in the UK is not for the faint of heart. I grew up and learned to drive stick there (automatics are not standard), but I have chosen not to drive there since 2004. Any trip involving public transport in the countryside should be planned with care. Bear in mind that bus service to small villages is probably designed to take kids to school and back, and will not run on the weekend. Even places with better service may have none on Sundays.
I would say that driving on rural roads in the UK is not for the faint of heart. I grew up and learned to drive stick there (automatics are not standard), but I have chosen not to drive there since 2004. Any trip involving public transport in the countryside should be planned with care. Bear in mind that bus service to small villages is probably designed to take kids to school and back, and will not run on the weekend. Even places with better service may have none on Sundays.
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How about Alnwich? It's north of London (six hours by car), and about 2 hours to Edinburgh, has a famous castle, nearby sites of interest, bus connections and a population of about 8,000. It's a small town rather than a village or hamlet, but has at least something to do after the first day. It's also the home of the House of Hardy, famed maker of fishing tackle. Just throwing this out there. I do think you'll want something more after a few days.
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How about Alnwich Alnwick? It's north of London (six hours by car), and about 2 hours to Edinburgh, has a famous castle, nearby sites of interest, bus connections and a population of about 8,000. It's a small town rather than a village or hamlet, but has at least something to do after the first day. It's also the home of the House of Hardy, famed maker of fishing tackle. Just throwing this out there. I do think you'll want something more after a few days.
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Can we at least reduce the village to say, four or five days? Three weeks in a village is a terrible idea. In fact, three weeks in a lot of towns isn't much better. There is so much to see in the UK that it is tragic to limit yourselves that way.
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Not a village, at least not by UK standards, and not even in England but maybe Conwy would work.
Plenty of things to see and do not too far away, with reasonable public transport, certainly a castle to visit, and another few not too far away if one isn't enough.
Or Warwick? Again not a village but has a castle.
Split the time you have into different areas of the UK.
Plenty of things to see and do not too far away, with reasonable public transport, certainly a castle to visit, and another few not too far away if one isn't enough.
Or Warwick? Again not a village but has a castle.
Split the time you have into different areas of the UK.
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Those websites linked above do paint a rosy picture of how easy it is to get around the UK using public transport however, on the ground with luggage, etc., it would be a very different experience. I love our villages and have even lived in a few. On our travels around the world we actively seek out small villages whether that be in Peru Colombia or Vietnam etc.. The difference is that those countries operate much more integrated and extensive (and cheaper) public transport where it is very easy to get around. That used to be the case here - in the 1960s1!
A lot has happened to public transport in the UK in recent years, particularly to bus services, none of it for the better! Services have been savagely cut across the board in rural areas throughout much of the country. Add to that the prospect of widespread industrial action affecting the railways throughout this summer and visiting the UK utilising public transport is not something I would recommend to anyone unless, by some miracle, the strikes are called off. Stay in a village - rent a car. It is that simple!
Buses may or may not be affected but will be much busier as a result and, I would envisage, often subject to delays. Stay in an idyllic English village by all means, just don't expect to go very far when you get there.
A lot has happened to public transport in the UK in recent years, particularly to bus services, none of it for the better! Services have been savagely cut across the board in rural areas throughout much of the country. Add to that the prospect of widespread industrial action affecting the railways throughout this summer and visiting the UK utilising public transport is not something I would recommend to anyone unless, by some miracle, the strikes are called off. Stay in a village - rent a car. It is that simple!
Buses may or may not be affected but will be much busier as a result and, I would envisage, often subject to delays. Stay in an idyllic English village by all means, just don't expect to go very far when you get there.
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I've seen this thread (and the "original" companion) a few times now, and every time I see it I'm tempted to dive in, but I've resisted. I think the OP really is looking for a unicorn, and I do wonder if there's some misapprehension about "villages" in the UK, brought on possibly by too many Miss Marple or BBC/PBS TV series.
Size matters. Too small and there are few (or no) day-to-day services available - groceries, transport, etc. Too big and, well, it's not really a village, but a town - market town, suburb, whatever term you want to apply. The sweet spot seems to me to be a place where there are enough services and variety to keep boredom away, but where things are still walkable, quiet and where one-on-one human connections are possible.
I also thought about Alnwick; having worked there briefly I think it might do, particularly on the castle front. The train station isn't in town, but it's close by and easily reached by bus or taxi. The middle of the town can be quite busy and trafficky, but the precincts around the castle are superb, and there's decent bus service from Alnwick to other places along the Northumberland coast - Seahouses, Bamburgh, even (via a shuttle) to the Holy Island.
However another place that crossed my mind - IF the OP's parents can tolerate a "village" with around 10,000 people in it, is Whitby on the Yorkshire coast. It has train service, more than enough tourist (and residential) services, and it's big enough and popular enough that it likely has some accommodation options. It may be TOO popular, but that's going to be a risk in any small town or village that has any appeal to visitors. Using train, bus or taxi services, other nearby locations could be explored - York, Staithes, etc., and it's definitely on the way to Scotland, if that is still of interest. The town itself has lots going for it - marvelous ruined abbey, Captain Cook connections, access to the North York moors... But it's also very popular and may be too "touristy" for the OP's parents. Hard to judge.
Not sure if this is helpful, but I had to join this thread to keep from getting frustrated.
Size matters. Too small and there are few (or no) day-to-day services available - groceries, transport, etc. Too big and, well, it's not really a village, but a town - market town, suburb, whatever term you want to apply. The sweet spot seems to me to be a place where there are enough services and variety to keep boredom away, but where things are still walkable, quiet and where one-on-one human connections are possible.
I also thought about Alnwick; having worked there briefly I think it might do, particularly on the castle front. The train station isn't in town, but it's close by and easily reached by bus or taxi. The middle of the town can be quite busy and trafficky, but the precincts around the castle are superb, and there's decent bus service from Alnwick to other places along the Northumberland coast - Seahouses, Bamburgh, even (via a shuttle) to the Holy Island.
However another place that crossed my mind - IF the OP's parents can tolerate a "village" with around 10,000 people in it, is Whitby on the Yorkshire coast. It has train service, more than enough tourist (and residential) services, and it's big enough and popular enough that it likely has some accommodation options. It may be TOO popular, but that's going to be a risk in any small town or village that has any appeal to visitors. Using train, bus or taxi services, other nearby locations could be explored - York, Staithes, etc., and it's definitely on the way to Scotland, if that is still of interest. The town itself has lots going for it - marvelous ruined abbey, Captain Cook connections, access to the North York moors... But it's also very popular and may be too "touristy" for the OP's parents. Hard to judge.
Not sure if this is helpful, but I had to join this thread to keep from getting frustrated.


