No need to get punchy about it. Your post came up as I was typing mine. I get it now.

no big deal but since you ask...beth said her favourite city in europe was london. you corrected her that london was not in europe.

not just opinion that uk is europe. it is europe in every sense.

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If you say that in all European restaurants this is the case, I'm saying it's not.
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of course I never said that and i don't believe that. all i said was that it is quite commonplace to see french people eat a burger and fries with a knife and fork...in response to your disbelief at this practice (despite your moniker).

Oh, give me a break about my moniker. What the hell is it with you and my name here? Will you just leave it alone now? As if 'walkinaround' means anything.

Personally I would say Oslo, Norway, but that might be because I'm living there right now and have my entire life
About the UK thing, as long as you are referring to the continent of Europe then UK is definately within it, consult ANY atlas. IF you are talking about "continental Europe" then most would say UK is not part of it, but the same can be said about the Nordic countries as well...

Sindre
(who eats his burgers at TGI Friday in Oslo with a knife and fork)

If I had my choice (with still keep my home here) Rome.

Um...Macerata, Italy? No seriously, If I had the choice, I would choose Rome, I think. Maybe London, but I like the chaos of Rome so much.

The other possibility would be Bologna, which is a wonderful city, and not so wrapped up in tourism that it's impossible to live there.

I do love Macerata though.

Jackie, when you get it figured out let us know! LOL.

I'm happy to put francophile03 in charge of the London in Europe thing... I'd be much happier if we weren't anything to do with Europe at all! We none of us like each other anyway...

I'd love to try living in Rome but not sure if the traffic would get me down.

As for the 'London in Europe' thing - flanneruk is correct in some that people in the UK refer to 'Europe' as if we were not part of it, but it infuriates me. So I stick to the good old-fashioned 'Continent' if I want specifically to refer to mainland Europe.

And I couldn't disagree more with Pollyanna (not a very suitable name in the context of these remarks, surely ?) - IMO, the sooner we are part of the United States of Europe, the better.

Caroline: Pollyanna may have been a happy little bunny but I'm pretty sure that she could have her own opinions too! 'United States of Europe'? The moment we start getting (further) dictated to by the likes of France and Germany, I'm getting the hell out of here!

Well, according to a couple of Fodorites, I am not a Francophile at all. They claim that my knowledge of France doesn't match my name.

This just because of my first comment regarding England not being part of Europe.

I guess I need to re-register with a different name.

And also because of my Denmark burger comment.

So many resident experts we have on board here it's so wonderful...

Just to clarify my comment on Paris being the most popular choice for American expats, I meant (and I was going to write) that that is the case from what we read in books and see in movies, etc. (The one expat I knw moved to Geneva.)

I think it would be Paris, but I might change it to Florence or Bologna or Rome.

But then again, Bordeaux sounds nice, as do Dijon and Beaune.

Or maybe somewhere in Provence, the Perigord or Auvergne.

London, London, London. Can you tell I miss London?

Ira: Rome???

I'd pick Venice because it's a small city on the water.....kinda like what I'm used to now. I also love the aspect of having no cars or scooters and everything being compact.