Berlin Sol Melia hotel: Should I be one of its first customers?
#22
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No caroline -- I didn't take your comment as a criticism. In fact, I agree with you that the Sol Melia is in a better location. For me I decided the money I'd save would be more important, but someone else could have different priorities. I figured that the Holiday Inn would have easy access to public transportation, so it won't be too difficult to get around.
Anyway 106 euros is still quite cheap -- but I think that the rate doesn't include breakfast.
Anyway 106 euros is still quite cheap -- but I think that the rate doesn't include breakfast.
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Thanks, 111op. I did look on Hotel.de and you are right! They do have the cheaper rate. As a MAS member of Sol Melia, I'm entitled to a free breakfast for my breakfast partner.
Here's my question: I already booked over the Sol Melia website. They've already told me they can't match the cheaper rate (I checked, lincasanova!), but I can of course cancel, and rebook with Hotel.de.
Am I silly to feel nervous about doing this? I think what worries me is that discount-booked guests get bumped or don't get treated as well, and that since this is a brand new hotel, more things could go wrong.
I'm going to double check to make sure all the taxes are included in the differing rates. Any advice?
hsv and willtravel,
Thanks for the orientation and the restaurant recommendations. For most lunch hours, I think I'm not going to be near the hotel. I'm hoping for at least some of my lunches will be near the Film Museum and the Pergamon. Any tips there?
Also, for those of you who know Berlin well, does the Bauhaus Archive have an interesting building and exhibits, or is it mainly a library for documents?
Here's my question: I already booked over the Sol Melia website. They've already told me they can't match the cheaper rate (I checked, lincasanova!), but I can of course cancel, and rebook with Hotel.de.
Am I silly to feel nervous about doing this? I think what worries me is that discount-booked guests get bumped or don't get treated as well, and that since this is a brand new hotel, more things could go wrong.
I'm going to double check to make sure all the taxes are included in the differing rates. Any advice?
hsv and willtravel,
Thanks for the orientation and the restaurant recommendations. For most lunch hours, I think I'm not going to be near the hotel. I'm hoping for at least some of my lunches will be near the Film Museum and the Pergamon. Any tips there?
Also, for those of you who know Berlin well, does the Bauhaus Archive have an interesting building and exhibits, or is it mainly a library for documents?
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I can't comment on whether you'll be treated as second class if you book the cheaper rate. Others who are more experienced can tell. When I book hotels I always try to get them for the cheapest -- I figure that even if there's a difference in service I'm not going to be able to tell. And I spend so little time in hotels in general anyway, so it's not a big deal for me.
But even though I booked my hotel in Chicago via Priceline for Labor Day, the hotel still gave the two of us complimentary drinks when the room wasn't ready when we arrived at 8 pm. So at least in that case, they didn't seem to treat us badly.
I think that it'd be bad practice in general, anyway, and I doubt that hotels can keep track as to who paid the rack rate. And there're so many promotions, etc., anyway.
But even though I booked my hotel in Chicago via Priceline for Labor Day, the hotel still gave the two of us complimentary drinks when the room wasn't ready when we arrived at 8 pm. So at least in that case, they didn't seem to treat us badly.
I think that it'd be bad practice in general, anyway, and I doubt that hotels can keep track as to who paid the rack rate. And there're so many promotions, etc., anyway.
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The Pergamon isn't too far from the area around Hackescher Markt and the surrounding Hackesche Hoefe, where there are quite a lot of interesting shops and cafés.
There is one restaurant called <b>Pan Asia</b> there that serves quite tasteful Asian food from different regions (who would have guessed by its name? ;-) ). Look for the red Pan-Am like logo indicating the entrance to the passage leading to it.
http://www.panasia.de/restaur/restaur1.htm
In the courtyard next to it, there is a pretty nice café, the name of which escapes me right now.
The Filmmuseum is on Potsdamer Platz. There is a huge variety of eateries there - some of them pretty mediocre, some of them quite nice.
If you crave a sandwich type lunch, I would recommend the Bistro Dietrich of the Grand Hyatt Hotel (on Marlene-Dietrich-Platz), which serves great sandwiches in combination with a softdrink and one coffee for around EUR 9.00 at lunchtime.
http://berlin.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/...ants/index.jsp
For a pasta or pizza lunch, there is an outfit of <b>Vapiano</b>, a chain of self service Italian restaurants originating in Hamburg, that serves fresh pasta made on the premises and prepares the food directly in front of your eyes at your order. It's usually quite good, but it depends a bit on which chef you catch (and to find the best sometimes takes a bit of trial and error) - but I am quite sure that in general it would not fail to please. Dishes are around EUR 6.00.
http://www.vapiano.de/index.php?lang=en
For a nice dinner with reasonable prices, I would head to <b>Diekmann im Weinhaus Huth</b> on Potsdamer Platz - it's rather easy to find as it's housed in the only older building left on Potsdamer Platz near the shopping mall by the name of Potsdamer Arcaden. Cuisine style is French/German and a main course will set you back around EUR 18.00.
http://www.j-diekmann.de/restaurant_...eisekarte.html
Michelin star honoured cuisine is found in the Mandala Hotel's <b>Facil</b> restaurant located opposite the Sony Center. It does come at a price, though.
http://www.facil-berlin.de/englisch/index.htm
I am irritated a bit by Sol Melia's policy about not matching the cheaper online rate as they have a best online price guarantee on their website. They claim they will honour the cheaper rate an give you an additional discount of 10 % provided you specify availability of a cheaper rate within 24 hours of your reservation.
http://www.solmelia.com/solNew/reser...ntcmp=GMP:HO2:
If your reservation is cancellable, you could cancel it, make a new reservation, mention the cheaper rate of hotels.de and claim your additional discount (which would give you the hotel at EUR 95.40, if I am doing the maths right).
I do not think that there would be more things to go wrong if you booked through the cheaper consolidator. Maybe your room would not be as nice, but as this is a brand new property, I am quite sure that they do not have any real bad rooms. Probably the view would not be as good, but then the savings are substantial so that I would jump at the cheapest offer.
I would also like to point out that I was surprised to find Sol advertising a rate of EUR 160.00 as an introductory special. The Berlin hotel market is rather competitive and EUR 160.00 do not seem to be particularly cheap - even for a hotel in a good location like this.
This would only encourage me to ask them to follow their own rules and policies and to honour their best price guarantee. If not, I would in fact consider taking my business elsewhere. The Marriott is located on Potsdamer Platz and is close to the Filmmuseum and is quite nice (although I found the service a bit spotty, but my visit was only a short time after its opening). The Radisson SAS is a nice modern design option very close to Museum Island and thus the Pergamon.
Both should have rates around EUR 160.00, too.
There is one restaurant called <b>Pan Asia</b> there that serves quite tasteful Asian food from different regions (who would have guessed by its name? ;-) ). Look for the red Pan-Am like logo indicating the entrance to the passage leading to it.
http://www.panasia.de/restaur/restaur1.htm
In the courtyard next to it, there is a pretty nice café, the name of which escapes me right now.
The Filmmuseum is on Potsdamer Platz. There is a huge variety of eateries there - some of them pretty mediocre, some of them quite nice.
If you crave a sandwich type lunch, I would recommend the Bistro Dietrich of the Grand Hyatt Hotel (on Marlene-Dietrich-Platz), which serves great sandwiches in combination with a softdrink and one coffee for around EUR 9.00 at lunchtime.
http://berlin.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/...ants/index.jsp
For a pasta or pizza lunch, there is an outfit of <b>Vapiano</b>, a chain of self service Italian restaurants originating in Hamburg, that serves fresh pasta made on the premises and prepares the food directly in front of your eyes at your order. It's usually quite good, but it depends a bit on which chef you catch (and to find the best sometimes takes a bit of trial and error) - but I am quite sure that in general it would not fail to please. Dishes are around EUR 6.00.
http://www.vapiano.de/index.php?lang=en
For a nice dinner with reasonable prices, I would head to <b>Diekmann im Weinhaus Huth</b> on Potsdamer Platz - it's rather easy to find as it's housed in the only older building left on Potsdamer Platz near the shopping mall by the name of Potsdamer Arcaden. Cuisine style is French/German and a main course will set you back around EUR 18.00.
http://www.j-diekmann.de/restaurant_...eisekarte.html
Michelin star honoured cuisine is found in the Mandala Hotel's <b>Facil</b> restaurant located opposite the Sony Center. It does come at a price, though.
http://www.facil-berlin.de/englisch/index.htm
I am irritated a bit by Sol Melia's policy about not matching the cheaper online rate as they have a best online price guarantee on their website. They claim they will honour the cheaper rate an give you an additional discount of 10 % provided you specify availability of a cheaper rate within 24 hours of your reservation.
http://www.solmelia.com/solNew/reser...ntcmp=GMP:HO2:
If your reservation is cancellable, you could cancel it, make a new reservation, mention the cheaper rate of hotels.de and claim your additional discount (which would give you the hotel at EUR 95.40, if I am doing the maths right).
I do not think that there would be more things to go wrong if you booked through the cheaper consolidator. Maybe your room would not be as nice, but as this is a brand new property, I am quite sure that they do not have any real bad rooms. Probably the view would not be as good, but then the savings are substantial so that I would jump at the cheapest offer.
I would also like to point out that I was surprised to find Sol advertising a rate of EUR 160.00 as an introductory special. The Berlin hotel market is rather competitive and EUR 160.00 do not seem to be particularly cheap - even for a hotel in a good location like this.
This would only encourage me to ask them to follow their own rules and policies and to honour their best price guarantee. If not, I would in fact consider taking my business elsewhere. The Marriott is located on Potsdamer Platz and is close to the Filmmuseum and is quite nice (although I found the service a bit spotty, but my visit was only a short time after its opening). The Radisson SAS is a nice modern design option very close to Museum Island and thus the Pergamon.
Both should have rates around EUR 160.00, too.
#28
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You probably want to check the reservation on hotel.de is cancellable -- I didn't check that.
I agree that 160 euros is a bit pricey for Berlin. But then I was surprised by difficult it was to find something that seemed nice under 100 euros. I did notice the hotels in former West Berlin are cheaper, but having stayed there for one night three years ago, I'm ready for a change of scenery.
I'm sure part of this is seasonal.
I agree that 160 euros is a bit pricey for Berlin. But then I was surprised by difficult it was to find something that seemed nice under 100 euros. I did notice the hotels in former West Berlin are cheaper, but having stayed there for one night three years ago, I'm ready for a change of scenery.
I'm sure part of this is seasonal.
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Wow! Thanks for all this helpful advice. I'm talking all this over with my business partner. Right now, we are focusing on trying to figure out where we should stay in Paris. Having mainly booked hotels in central Rome, Milan and London. 160e looked pretty cheap to me for the capital of Berlin! I wish I could find those rates in Paris for something other than a dubious closet -- but that's the subject for another thread.
Thanks hsv for those restaurant recommendations. Any good bets near the museums or the Bauhaus Archive for German food for lunch?
By the way, I'm probably going to start a new thread when I get a chance to ask some other questions about Berlin -- like, can I get a museum pass? But I've got to leave Berlin mentally for a few days until I nail down Paris.
Thanks again to all!
Thanks hsv for those restaurant recommendations. Any good bets near the museums or the Bauhaus Archive for German food for lunch?
By the way, I'm probably going to start a new thread when I get a chance to ask some other questions about Berlin -- like, can I get a museum pass? But I've got to leave Berlin mentally for a few days until I nail down Paris.
Thanks again to all!
#30
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Well my favorite hotel in Paris (Hotel Tiquetonne) is 50 euros a night. It's too shabby for your needs, but I've not found anything that beats that price. And it's minutes away from Chatelet-Les Halles, so the location can't be beaten.
You can see that I love bargains.
You can see that I love bargains.

#32
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At the Schoenefeld airport, I bought a smallish 1,75 Euro magazine called Berlin in Your Pocket. This has a lot of sightseeing information, recommended eateries in numerous neighborhoods, maps, etc. It was a very useful guidebook, particularly for the price. If you are trying to find some recommended places, you could try that.
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Once more, I can second WillTravel's advice. The InYourPocket guides are invaluable. You can usually get them at hotels' frontdesks.
Unfortunately I cannot come up with any restaurant recommendations near the Bauhaus Archive. I am not that familiar with the area.
Unfortunately I cannot come up with any restaurant recommendations near the Bauhaus Archive. I am not that familiar with the area.
#38
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Thanks to this thread, I just moved my hotel reservation from Potsdamerplatz to Melia as it is very close to the seminar location that I will be going to. I managed to get the 73 euro deal for two of the four nights, not a bad deal. Hopefully the hotel doesn't disappoint.

