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Old Dec 28th, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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ATMs and debit cards

We're returning to Italy and I forgot if the ATM/debit cards required a special passcode. I had BOA two years ago and now have BB&T.
My password is a 4 digit code and I recall someone saying it required a "0"?
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Old Dec 28th, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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You probably read that the first digit should not be 0. I don't know how true that is, but I've read that on this board.
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Old Dec 28th, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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My BOA ATM card didn't work last week ...I got a "Not valid for International use" on a Deutche Bank ATM in Frankfurt airport, and it didn't work in Rome either!
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Old Dec 28th, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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A 4 digit code has always worked for me. There are some reports that if you do not have the Visa logo on your card it will not work. However, you should warn your bank that you will be abroad.
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Old Dec 28th, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Hi

I notified BoA that we were travelling through Germany, Switzerland, and Austria and had no problems using my ATM card and I had no special passcode. DH uses BB&T and had good luck also.

I do remember that BB&T charged a little more on transactions and BofA charged nothing.
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Old Dec 28th, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Actually BofA charges $5 except at their partner banks.

You can have a 0 in your PIN - but it is best that the first number is not a 0. This was vital years ago - but in general a leading 0 is OK now. But just to be on the safe side use a PIN that doesn't start w/ 0.
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Old Dec 28th, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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We always travel with debit cards from 2 different banks, BOA and a local bank, so that we will not get caught short if one card does not work. Having two cards also gives us access to more cash when we need it. Our local bank is a much better deal because they do not have charges for overseas usage.
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Old Dec 28th, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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My BofA card has a 6-digit pin. Anybody else? Haven't tried to use it in Europe -- anybody else have any experience with a 6-digit pin?
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Old Dec 29th, 2006 | 01:43 AM
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Change it to 4 digits, whilst it MAY work it's odds on that when you really do need it it won't work
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Old Dec 29th, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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For your information, I have been using HSBC, ATM card issued from Bahrain with 6 digits all over Europe with no difficulties. Last summer have use it and also used ATM/Debit Master Card issed by National Bank of Bahrain with only 4 digits. Both cards worked in Germany and Switzerland. This October have used both in Greece "Hania" and worked with no problem.
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Old Dec 29th, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Has anyone used an ATM card in Europe that is strickly an ATM card ? (Not a visa or mastercard)
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Old Dec 29th, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Hi patibon,

I used a BB&T debit card in Switzerland a few years ago, and it was a total fiasco. The card didn't work in ANY bank machine anywhere; I tried every machine in several towns. I called BB&T, and they basically said, "too bad, not our fault." The Swiss banks also said it was not their fault.

When I got home, I closed my account and got another bank. It wasn't only that the card didn't work, it was their total lack of care. They had nothing to add, no ideas to help.
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Old Dec 29th, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Sorry; hit "post" by error.

Anwyay, I wish BB&T had just offered some sort of solution -- anything. Maybe an emergency replacement card. But, even after about four calls (on MY dime), they continued to be uncaring.

By the way, this wasn't my first use of debit cards/atms in Europe. I first used them with another bank in Grindelwald in 1995. I've been using my new bank's cards (USAA) with no problems at all since then (about two trips to Switzerland and Germany).

I wouldn't use BB&T if you paid me.

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Old Dec 29th, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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USAA is a fine company but evidently one can no longer have a bank account with them unless they also have their insurance with USAA. USAA is for military and retired military.
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Old Dec 29th, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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traveler2,
I use an ATM only card in Italy every year with no problem.

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Old Dec 29th, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Yes, I'm retired military. But there are plenty of other banks out there with better customer service. I used Regions for years with no problems.

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Old Dec 30th, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Henry, Thanks for info. I was getting a little concerned that I wouldn't be able to use ATM only card! Good to know that it is accepted.
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Old Dec 31st, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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My CU charges $2.50 to $5.0 for overseas atm w/drawals. There may be other fees (exchange rate fees, and the other banks' atm fees). For those of you who used their atms, what kind of fees did you incur besides the one that your bank charged ($5.00 w/ BoA, or $1.5 w/ 5/3, free w/ First Republic etc?) Is there a message that come up to warn you of such charges? (It does usually over here in the U.S.) Are ATM messages in English? I don't mind paying $2.50 or even little more using my CU but I don't want to pay like $20 for additional fees from other banks and exchange fees, etc? I will make 3 to 4 withdrawals over my entire 2 week-trip. At Rome airport for sure, in Paris, and in London, etc. Please advise best ATM card and info. Thank you again. Happy New Year.
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Old Dec 31st, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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alliecat: European banks do not charge a fee to use their ATMs. The only thing you will pay is what your own bank/CU charges.

Just be sure to always use ATMs affiliated w/ a bank - not independent ones (like you might see in a casino in the States). Those are not regulated like banks are . . . .
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Old Dec 31st, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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My sixteen year old daughters ATM/Debit card is with USAA. She is not in the military and neither is my husband or I. We carry no insurance with USAA either. But USAA is our investment company. So if anyone is interested in USAA I would contact them directly.
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