My family and I are flying into Zurich and we need to visit Geneva for a couple of days and on to London for the rest of our holiday. Our friends in Geneva told us that there is a direct train from Zurich to Geneva. <BR> <BR>Does anyone know whether you can take a train from Geneva to London. Checked up with the car rental companies - cannot rent a car in Geneva and drop it off at London Heathrow. Air fares from Geneva to London - one way is as expensive as our SIN-ZURICH, LONDON-SIN fare. <BR> <BR>Any ideas or suggestions.... <BR> <BR>Thank you

I was looking for similar rail routing the other day and found: <BR> <BR>www.raileurope.com <BR> <BR>which gives all kinds of rail routings. Geneva - London was via Paris.

Dear Mr Prasad, <BR> <BR>I'm afraid that by rail you need to cross Paris. Geneva 0539, Mon to Fri, Parisa Lyon 0922 Paris Nord 1143 Londin Waterloo 1343 or 1400. <BR>Geneva 0746, Paris Lyon 1122 Paris Nord 1304 Londion Waterloo 1509 or 15.27 <BR>Geneva 1000, Mon to Sat, Paris Lyon 1340 Paris Nord 1519 London Waterloo 1709 or 1727 <BR>Geneva 1242, Paris Lyon 1619 Paris Nord 1743 London Waterloo 1943 or 2000 <BR>Geneva 1641, Paris Lyon 2022 Paris Nord 2113 London Waterloo 2316 or 2330 <BR> <BR>But it will be cheaper and quicker to fly to Luton with Easyjet, http://www.easyjet.com, at about fifty pounds single. Trains leave Luton airport every 15 minutes, and take ten pounds and fifty minutes to central London. <BR> <BR>Please write if can help further. Welcome to Europe. <BR> <BR>Ben Haines, London <BR> <BR> <BR>

According to the German National Rail system web site, there is a train that leaves Geneva at 6:56 and travel to Brussels Midi via CDG2, which is also at the airport for Paris. In Brussels according to the schedule I read, you have a 25 minute walk to get from the station where you arrive to Brussels Midi East. The train for Waterloo leaves at 13:02 and arrives at <BR>14:53. (That train must fly!!) <BR> <BR>I presume this train actually exists! <BR>I am saying this because Ben Haines did not mention it in his reply to your question. Normally if Ben does not mention it, it does not exist. But the German Rail site listed it, and it too is reliable as a general rule. <BR> <BR>So, hopefully if Ben reads this he can confirm or deny the possibility of traveling via Brussels. <BR> <BR>My personal opinion is that you can get there a little faster if you fly. <BR> <BR> <BR>The Swiss system seems to develop amnesia very easily. It does not know about London. <BR> <BR>I would not rely on Rail Europe for anything except overpriced tickets. <BR>As a general rule I have found RE tickets to be anywhere from 25% to 45% more expensive for the same ticket. <BR> <BR>I kid you not. After pricing the TGV tickets between Paris and Lausanne, and finding a 50% markup because RE wanted $5 extra just for the reqiored reservation, which was added on to an already overpriced ticket, I began to understand the price one pays for not knowing.

Fodors <BR> <BR>Mr Brown is remarkably courteous. The Brussels connection does, indeed, run from Sundays to Fridsays, and avoid the crossing of Paris. I'm afraid I looked at Cooks table 11 and not at their table 14a. Sorry. <BR> <BR>Ben Haines <BR>

Mr/Ms Prasad's question has provoked my curiosity. With a little additional checking of both the German and French web sites, I come up with this schedule for the quickest train route from Geneve Switzerland to London Waterloo International, about 7 and one half hours. <BR> <BR>Lv: Geneve 7:07 on train 17622 <BR>Ar: Lyon Part Dieu 8:58 <BR>Lv: Lyon Part Dieu 9:12 on train TGV 564 <BR>Ar: Lille Europe 12:15 <BR>Lv: Lille Europe 12:45 on train Eurostar <BR> 925 <BR>Ar: Waterloo Int 13:43 <BR> <BR>The French system and the German system agree except the time of the journey. <BR>The French system said it was 6 hours and 36 minutes. The German one said the time was 7 hours and 36 minutes. <BR>I think the French system, among its many other quirks, did not allow for the the hour time change between London and the Continent. <BR> <BR>This route involes 2 changes. <BR>The first schedule I quoted involves only one, in Brussels. This one is better if you want quicker time. <BR>But it involves 2 changes of train. <BR>At any rate there are several connections on the schedule which indicate that you can avoid Paris if you travel by train. <BR>Avoiding Paris is beneficial because changing from one train station to the other involves a taxi ride, usually. <BR> <BR>Incidentally, the time of the trip from Brussels to London is based on the time of arrival in London. With an hour time change, the trip is longer than might appear at first glance. The train does not fly!! It goes under water. <BR> <BR>