Amsterdam Dining
Nov 2nd, 2018, 06:33 AM
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Amsterdam Dining
Staying at Hotel Estherea for 3 days after a Viking cruise. Looking for 3 good restaurants - 2 with regional food, and one continental menu. Looking to spend no more than $50-100 pp. We will be using UBER as my husband has Parkinsons so distance from the hotel is not an issue. Also, any suggestions for good breakfast spots near our hotel would be welcome. Thanks.
Nov 2nd, 2018, 06:52 AM
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why are you taking an UBER? Taxis in the city are the norm.
https://www.iamsterdam.com/en/plan-y...g-around/taxis
It was the case that UBER could not officially use the airport taxi rank. Someone will confirm if that is still the case.
What dollars are you writing about?
Traditional food. Bistro Bij Ons - Restaurant Amsterdam
De IJ-Keuken
https://pancakes.amsterdam/
http://zwaantje-restaurant.nl/
http://www.moeders.com
https://www.iamsterdam.com/en/plan-y...g-around/taxis
It was the case that UBER could not officially use the airport taxi rank. Someone will confirm if that is still the case.
What dollars are you writing about?
Traditional food. Bistro Bij Ons - Restaurant Amsterdam
De IJ-Keuken
https://pancakes.amsterdam/
http://zwaantje-restaurant.nl/
http://www.moeders.com
Nov 2nd, 2018, 11:05 AM
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Chinese-Indonesian restaurants are amongst the most popular with locals - yes try the Rijstaffel or Rice Table with dozens of edible accouterments served along with main dish - unlimited rice and toppings -for best or most authentic get out of the tourist ghetto - ask hotel or locals for good spots. Few restaurants seem to feature Dutch food and there are not IME many breakfast places - I'd take the hotel breakfast.
Nov 2nd, 2018, 12:21 PM
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We are taking about Amsterdam here.
Given the links, above, I would suggest you do some research as there are loads around of all prices.
The OP has not asked about breakfast.
for best or most authentic get out of the tourist ghetto
Few restaurants seem to feature Dutch food
The OP has not asked about breakfast.
Nov 2nd, 2018, 12:55 PM
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Also, any suggestions for good breakfast spots near our hotel would be welcome>
OP did ask about breakfast!
for best or most authentic get out of the tourist ghetto
We are taking about Amsterdam here.>
Yes and it is easy to get out of touristy central Amsterdam - Amsterdam has tons of neighborhoods where few tourists go - just get on a tram - I have not been to Amsterdam for several years but I am sure there are lots of neat neighborhoods that I often went to that are not infested with tourists. If you have never been to any you are missing out on a really neat part of Amsterdam.
OP did ask about breakfast!
for best or most authentic get out of the tourist ghetto
We are taking about Amsterdam here.>
Yes and it is easy to get out of touristy central Amsterdam - Amsterdam has tons of neighborhoods where few tourists go - just get on a tram - I have not been to Amsterdam for several years but I am sure there are lots of neat neighborhoods that I often went to that are not infested with tourists. If you have never been to any you are missing out on a really neat part of Amsterdam.
Nov 2nd, 2018, 01:17 PM
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I am sorry but you are recommending a Rijstaffel and a non tourist "ghetto" in Amsterdam.
Two things that tourist should understand Amsterdam is very touristy. I would never use the nasty word ghetto, only when quoting someone here.
There is more to Dutch cuisine than a Rijstaffel.
To comprehend these points you have to have lived in the country.
Two things that tourist should understand Amsterdam is very touristy. I would never use the nasty word ghetto, only when quoting someone here.
There is more to Dutch cuisine than a Rijstaffel.
To comprehend these points you have to have lived in the country.
Nov 2nd, 2018, 01:32 PM
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There are indeed many normal non-touristy neighborhoods in Amsterdam and all are sure to have a Chinese-Indonesian restaurant - yes I wholeheartedly recommend trying the unique Rijstaffel - what's wrong with that? I spent weeks in Amsterdam yearly for over 30 years and know there is more to Dutch cuisine than Rijstaffel but that dish is very popular with Dutch too in the many Chinese-Indonesian restaurants in normal neighborhoods. The most common type of restaurant seems to be the ubiquitous 'Petit Restaurants'', small restaurants that can serve a variety of foods - I guess they would be called Dutch cuisine - but I admit I rarely went to any of those.
As for ghetto I was using in context of yes an area that few tourists get out of - but I did not and do not think of that as pejorative. Like I often say 'restaurant ghetto' - what do you call American slums in big cities - ghettos - can't see why you would not use the word in that context.
As for ghetto I was using in context of yes an area that few tourists get out of - but I did not and do not think of that as pejorative. Like I often say 'restaurant ghetto' - what do you call American slums in big cities - ghettos - can't see why you would not use the word in that context.
Nov 2nd, 2018, 02:32 PM
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Most of the rijsttaffel places in Amsterdam, as far as I can figure after a dozen visits there, are there for tourists and nothing else. You see few Dutch people there. The food is bland and overpriced, and we went to the ones highly touted on TA and elsewhere. Beh!
I'm not sure we've ever managed to settle down in what I would call an authentic Dutch restaurant with authentic Dutch food in Amsterdam (in Den Bosch and Rotterdam, yes, but not in Amsterdam).
What we did do on our last trip to A'dam was rent an apartment and spend a couple of nights having drinks and once a dinner at MOMO, which could not be described as authentic Dutch at all, and it's expensive and for us was a big treat, but we loved the atmosphere and the food. Authentically Dutch? No. But high-quality food and drinks.
We had no problem venturing out in the morning and finding a comfy place to have a coffee and pastry/roll for breakfast,
I'm not sure we've ever managed to settle down in what I would call an authentic Dutch restaurant with authentic Dutch food in Amsterdam (in Den Bosch and Rotterdam, yes, but not in Amsterdam).
What we did do on our last trip to A'dam was rent an apartment and spend a couple of nights having drinks and once a dinner at MOMO, which could not be described as authentic Dutch at all, and it's expensive and for us was a big treat, but we loved the atmosphere and the food. Authentically Dutch? No. But high-quality food and drinks.
We had no problem venturing out in the morning and finding a comfy place to have a coffee and pastry/roll for breakfast,
Nov 2nd, 2018, 03:24 PM
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Most of the rijstaffel places in Amsterdam, as far as I can figure after a dozen visits there, are there for tourists and nothing else. You see few Dutch people there.>
That's why I suggested getting out of the tourist area and into real local neighborhoods - like for years we would eat at several Chinese-Indonesian restaurants (not a 'rijstaffel place' because that is one of the many different meals offered) near our Olympic Stadium campsite which were much different from those we ate at in central Amsterdam - you could call those places 'ristaffel places because that's what most tourists came for. And, there was a big difference between rijstaffels served out there in terms of better quality dishes served with the rijstaffel - in tourist places some of the 'dishes' served may be just a cup of peanuts, etc. Anyway, for an authentic rijstaffel as served in zillions of Dutch Chinese-Indonesian restaurants patronized mainly by the Dutch, hop a tram or taxi and get out of the tourist-infested centrum.
That's why I suggested getting out of the tourist area and into real local neighborhoods - like for years we would eat at several Chinese-Indonesian restaurants (not a 'rijstaffel place' because that is one of the many different meals offered) near our Olympic Stadium campsite which were much different from those we ate at in central Amsterdam - you could call those places 'ristaffel places because that's what most tourists came for. And, there was a big difference between rijstaffels served out there in terms of better quality dishes served with the rijstaffel - in tourist places some of the 'dishes' served may be just a cup of peanuts, etc. Anyway, for an authentic rijstaffel as served in zillions of Dutch Chinese-Indonesian restaurants patronized mainly by the Dutch, hop a tram or taxi and get out of the tourist-infested centrum.
Nov 2nd, 2018, 06:47 PM
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OP, you have to understand that we're a nation of traders. So our "region" is the entire world, with a special role for Indonesia, because that was the major part of our colonial empire. What is touted as "Dutch regional cuisine" is something for tourists. Ok if you like huge pancakes, but eating well is something entirely different.
Check out www.iens.nl, the leading Dutch restaurant review site.
Anything above a score of 9 is good
https://www.iens.nl/search/?idCity=19088&idProductLine=fe67bd60-a1af-4c75-9199-78c26758556c
And people, please. It's not rijstaffel or rijsstaffel or rijsttaffel, but RIJST TaFel. Thank you.
Check out www.iens.nl, the leading Dutch restaurant review site.
Anything above a score of 9 is good
https://www.iens.nl/search/?idCity=19088&idProductLine=fe67bd60-a1af-4c75-9199-78c26758556c
And people, please. It's not rijstaffel or rijsstaffel or rijsttaffel, but RIJST TaFel. Thank you.
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Nov 2nd, 2018, 07:08 PM
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Breakfast: There's a Pain Quotidien on Spuistraat 266, just to the back of your hotel.
Le Pain Quotidien - NL - Bakery & Communal Table
Le Pain Quotidien - NL - Bakery & Communal Table
Nov 2nd, 2018, 07:21 PM
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Most of the rijstaffel places in Amsterdam, as far as I can figure after a dozen visits there, are there for tourists and nothing else. You see few Dutch people there.>
That's why I suggested getting out of the tourist area and into real local neighborhoods - like for years we would eat at several Chinese-Indonesian restaurants (not a 'rijstaffel place' because that is one of the many different meals offered) near our Olympic Stadium campsite which were much different from those we ate at in central Amsterdam - you could call those places 'ristaffel places because that's what most tourists came for. And, there was a big difference between rijstaffels served out there in terms of better quality dishes served with the rijstaffel - in tourist places some of the 'dishes' served may be just a cup of peanuts, etc. Anyway, for an authentic rijstaffel as served in zillions of Dutch Chinese-Indonesian restaurants patronized mainly by the Dutch, hop a tram or taxi and get out of the tourist-infested centrum.
That's why I suggested getting out of the tourist area and into real local neighborhoods - like for years we would eat at several Chinese-Indonesian restaurants (not a 'rijstaffel place' because that is one of the many different meals offered) near our Olympic Stadium campsite which were much different from those we ate at in central Amsterdam - you could call those places 'ristaffel places because that's what most tourists came for. And, there was a big difference between rijstaffels served out there in terms of better quality dishes served with the rijstaffel - in tourist places some of the 'dishes' served may be just a cup of peanuts, etc. Anyway, for an authentic rijstaffel as served in zillions of Dutch Chinese-Indonesian restaurants patronized mainly by the Dutch, hop a tram or taxi and get out of the tourist-infested centrum.
There are good Indo restaurants in Amsterdam centre.
Here are the highest scoring Indonesian restaurants
https://www.iens.nl/search/?idCity=19088&idProductLine=fe67bd60-a1af-4c75-9199-78c26758556c#sort=RATE_DESC&filters%5BTAG%5D%5Bres taurant_tag%7C1504%7C12%5D=on&filters%5BPRODUCT_LI NE%5D%5Bfe67bd60-a1af-4c75-9199-78c26758556c%5D=on
If I want to eat Indonesian food in Amsterdam, I usually go to https://www.iens.nl/restaurant/tujuh-maret/220113 mostly because they cook Sulawesi style and that's different from the usual East Java style of cooking you get, "standard Indonesian".
Although I'll go on to say that for very good Indonesian food you need to be in The Hague, not Amsterdam.
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Nov 2nd, 2018, 07:43 PM
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Chinese-Indonesian restaurants are amongst the most popular with locals - yes try the Rijstaffel or Rice Table with dozens of edible accouterments served along with main dish - unlimited rice and toppings -for best or most authentic get out of the tourist ghetto - ask hotel or locals for good spots. Few restaurants seem to feature Dutch food and there are not IME many breakfast places - I'd take the hotel breakfast.
Those restaurants are now either going out of business fast, or they're being converted into Wok places, or all you can eat restaurants. They're not at all "popular with locals": locals wouldn't be seen dead in them.
Nov 2nd, 2018, 10:37 PM
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The only rijsttafel we had worth mentioning was in Den Bosch - I forget where it was, but a sort of hole-in-the-wall place.
But if you want a very "happening scene" place in Amsterdam, albeit ingeniously placed where tourists will find it and not inexpensive, try MOMO. Our apartment was right around the corner, so it was all too easy a target, but they did have wonderful food and drink, though nothing I'd call indigenous. More of an "experience" than anything "local."
But if you want a very "happening scene" place in Amsterdam, albeit ingeniously placed where tourists will find it and not inexpensive, try MOMO. Our apartment was right around the corner, so it was all too easy a target, but they did have wonderful food and drink, though nothing I'd call indigenous. More of an "experience" than anything "local."
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The only rijsttafel we had worth mentioning was in Den Bosch - I forget where it was, but a sort of hole-in-the-wall place.
But if you want a very "happening scene" place in Amsterdam, albeit ingeniously placed where tourists will find it and not inexpensive, try MOMO. Our apartment was right around the corner, so it was all too easy a target, but they did have wonderful food and drink, though nothing I'd call indigenous. More of an "experience" than anything "local."
But if you want a very "happening scene" place in Amsterdam, albeit ingeniously placed where tourists will find it and not inexpensive, try MOMO. Our apartment was right around the corner, so it was all too easy a target, but they did have wonderful food and drink, though nothing I'd call indigenous. More of an "experience" than anything "local."
Nov 3rd, 2018, 12:36 AM
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so whilst Europe has been a sleep I see our resident in Rotterdam has been putting everyone straight.
Good. How you stayed all night up for such an interesting subject I do not know.
However, the spelling issue. Maybe someone should correct wiki whilst they are at it?
English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijsttafel
Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijsttafel
or even this on-line dictionary. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rijsttafel
Good. How you stayed all night up for such an interesting subject I do not know.
However, the spelling issue. Maybe someone should correct wiki whilst they are at it?
English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijsttafel
Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijsttafel
or even this on-line dictionary. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rijsttafel
Nov 3rd, 2018, 01:23 AM
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Maybe you should sleep some more Ribeira, it could improve your mood !
For authentic dutch food, I went into some small toxwns where restaurants close at 6 30 pm and where the fodd is uninventive. Best to stick to touristy places in Amsterdam imo.
For authentic dutch food, I went into some small toxwns where restaurants close at 6 30 pm and where the fodd is uninventive. Best to stick to touristy places in Amsterdam imo.
