9 days in switzerland
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http://www.goldenpass.ch/en - supposedly can book VIP seats here even without a ticket or pass yet.
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Dear Swiss Fan, what I can recommend you is absolutely not to go to the most famous cities, as Luzern, Zurich , Bern. Do not worth - simple, nice places, but without heart. What is really fantastic are the countries and the mountains - furthermore I can recommend the part - hidden - close to Bodensee - which confines with Austria and Germany. This is Swiss. Unknown small tonws (Dorf) where you breath Swiss atmosphere. Ok, I admit that also mountains are something breathless but...only postcards! Bye bye
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Bern to me is one of the most underrated pleasant nice cities in Europe and Lucerne is exceptional in its setting on to me Switzerland's loveliest lake - I too desagree with spassky in his/he disdain on Lucerne and Bern and even Zurich, which if you get under the glitzy modern veneer is a downright capitvating place - especially the hill-climbing trams leading to as nice a forest walking paths as Switzerland has outside of its Alps.
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Good point, Palen:
Only few foreign people know that most Swiss towns have their "house mountain" with can be reached by tram or cablecar (funicular railway), often directly from the city center:
Zurich: Uetliberg (tram)
Biel/Bienne: Macolin/Magglingen (cablecar)
Berne: Gurten (cablecar)
Solothurn: Weissenstein (gondola)
Neuchâtel: Chaumont (cablecar)
Vevey: Mont Pélerin (cablecar)
Geneva: Salève (city bus plus gondola)
Sierre/Siders: Montana (cablecar)
Locarno: Cardada (cablecar plus gondola)
Lugano: Monte San Salvatore (cablecar)
Varese: Sacro Monte (cablecar)
Como: Brunate (cablecar)
Stresa: Mottarone (gondola)
Chur: Dreibündenstein (gondola)
Zug: Zugerberg (cablecar)
Thun: Heiligenschwendi (citybus)
Lucerne: Pilatus (gondola)
Interlaken: Harder (cablecar)
Brig: Riederalp (train and gondola)
Spiez: Niesen (train and cablecar)
Meiringen: Alpen tower (gondola)
Lausanne: Sauvabelin (citybus)
Montreux-Territet: Glion (cablecar)
Yverdon: Ste-Croix (small train)
etc. etc.
Only few foreign people know that most Swiss towns have their "house mountain" with can be reached by tram or cablecar (funicular railway), often directly from the city center:
Zurich: Uetliberg (tram)
Biel/Bienne: Macolin/Magglingen (cablecar)
Berne: Gurten (cablecar)
Solothurn: Weissenstein (gondola)
Neuchâtel: Chaumont (cablecar)
Vevey: Mont Pélerin (cablecar)
Geneva: Salève (city bus plus gondola)
Sierre/Siders: Montana (cablecar)
Locarno: Cardada (cablecar plus gondola)
Lugano: Monte San Salvatore (cablecar)
Varese: Sacro Monte (cablecar)
Como: Brunate (cablecar)
Stresa: Mottarone (gondola)
Chur: Dreibündenstein (gondola)
Zug: Zugerberg (cablecar)
Thun: Heiligenschwendi (citybus)
Lucerne: Pilatus (gondola)
Interlaken: Harder (cablecar)
Brig: Riederalp (train and gondola)
Spiez: Niesen (train and cablecar)
Meiringen: Alpen tower (gondola)
Lausanne: Sauvabelin (citybus)
Montreux-Territet: Glion (cablecar)
Yverdon: Ste-Croix (small train)
etc. etc.
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I think the key point for the golden pass train is that the panorama cars are first class, so you need a first class pass or an upgrade to sit there. Also there are very few trains with the special cars and VIP seats, maybe 2 per day in each direction. When we did the trip in early June last year, we booked the VIP seats. The 4 people sitting in those seats were the ONLY people in the whole car that day. So yes book the VIP seats if you want them, otherwise I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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a unique thing at least in first class on the Montreux-Zweisimmen portion at least IME are the unique swivel chairs that you can turn as the scenery dictates - not sure these are in 2nd class - panoramic cars to me are a bit of a hype - you can see the scenery perfectly well out the normall large windows.
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VIP seats on Golden Pass Montreux-Zweisimmen trains. Sweet!
https://www.google.com/search?q=gold...ml%3B800%3B534
https://www.google.com/search?q=gold...ml%3B800%3B534
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in your opinion if i had to choose one more place to stop for 2 nights after wengen ....what would the best / your favourite choice be ( we would have seen geneva , montreux , gruyeure and wengen ) .... keeping in mind that we fly out of milan .
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flying out of Milan I'd consider Lake Stresa and sweet Stresa, a lovely lakeside town smack on main rail route between Interlaken/spiez and Milan - just off shore are the three fmaous Borromen Islands, each with a different delight on it - frequent boats from Stresa - in evening the Stresa municipal band was playing lakeside when I was there.
Lovely and puts you right near Milan Airport which is about as close to Stresa as it is to Milan.
Italy is also a lot cheaper than Switzerland!
Lovely and puts you right near Milan Airport which is about as close to Stresa as it is to Milan.
Italy is also a lot cheaper than Switzerland!