We will be in Wengen for 4 days, need some suggestion on the below itinerary
Day 1: Arrive from Luzern via interlaken check in by 12 pm, check the weather @ Jungfrau if good DIRECT To Jungfrau, Save Kleine Scheidegg for the way back down or visit Staubbach Falls in Lauterbrunnen and a short walk around.

Day 2: check the weather @ Jungfrau, if it permits DIRECT To Jungfrau early morning by 8, Save Kleine Scheidegg for the way back down. A stroll at Kleine Scheidegg. If possible visit Grindelwald and walk to Grindelwald Grund take the gondola to Mannlichen, back to wengen.

Backup Day2: If the weather is not fine @ Jungfrau, try the Murren/GImmelwald/ Shcilthorn and back to wengen (any posiibility for a small walking trail with our 6yr child)

Day 3: Boat trip from interlaken to Lake Brienz and visit ballenberg open museum, and back to interlaken, if possible a boat trip to Lake Thun castle at Thun and at Spiez

Day 4: Empty (need suggestion)

We are husband wife + 6yr child in Oct 8 to 11 , please suggest accordingly, Can we visit any choclate factories or any choclate train which is feasible trip from Wengen

Typically the weather at the Jungfraujoch is the best early in the morning, so I've read. When we went last summer that was certainly true. The first train is something like 7 AM-ish, plan to be on that. Plus, it is cheaper.

The walk from Mannlichen to Kleine Scheidegg was beautiful, and, if you start in that direction (take the cable car from Wengen up to Mannlichen, then walk) you will be going somewhat downhill instead of somewhat uphill on the walk - easy peasy. I think a 6 year old would be just fine.

Another beautiful walk was at Schynige Platte. That is on the way down to Interlaken from Wengen. Stupendous views perched above the two lakes - and I do mean stupendous. That is a climb uphill, but, again, I don't think it would be too much for a 6 year old as long as they aren't video-game potatoes. I would go up to the view, and back, instead of the whole circuit with a 6 year old, probably. In fact, if you merely wanted to go to the train-stop and see the Alpine Garden up there, you would get some views but not the "two lakes" view.

Here is an example of the view when you get off the train:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalk...7624835682054/

Here is a view at the top of the hike:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalk...57624539574754

Here is an example of the trail:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalk...7624539574754/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalk...57624835682054

Here are a few flowers from the garden. It's a pretty big garden, with pretty views, as well. You could certainly entertain your kiddo for a while there, and decide if you wanted to hike to the top or not!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalk...ags/edelweiss/

When are you arriving Wengen?????

I am almost positive that the Mannlichen Cable Car and Gondolas to Grindelwald close on Oct. 23.

What are you planning on doing in Kleine Scheidegg? There isn't really much to do except eat.

I would suggest you walk from Kleine Scheidegg to Wengernalp then take the train back down to Wengen. The walk is very easy as it is downhill and you will be walking right in front of the Jungfrau.

When you get to Wengernalp, if you walk just a little bit farther (then come back up to get the train) you will see three benches up on a hill. If you go up there you will get SPECTACULAR views of Wengen and the surrounding mountains. SPECTACULARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

The sad thing is that very few do this walk.

Most people do get up early to go up to the Jungfrau, but many times the weather is clear all day. You will see people going up at 5PM in the summer months.

You have to be careful though because it can be a beautful day, yet you will see a huge clouds up at the summit of the Jungfrau and you can't see anything until those clouds pass.
(and sometimes they just sit there.)

The boat ride for Lake Brienz is right in back of Interlaken Ost train station, right next door to the Hotel au Lac. It is very easy to find. You buy your tickets right there at the dock. There is first-class and second-class seating and there is a dining room on the main deck.

I got off at Geissbach Falls and had a chocolate cake and coffee at the "House of Dark Shadows" Hotel Geissbach. You have to pay 9 CHF, however, to take the funicular up and down.

I LOVE the Schynige Platte, but you have to be in reasonable shape to walk up to the "panoramaweg" that looks down over Lake Brienz and Lake Thun. I also think that most of the wildflowers in the garden will be dead if you are going in
October.

There is a very nice hotel up at Schynige Platte, so there is a patio with cafeteria service if you want a meal or a drink. The views from the patio are also spectacular.

Thun and Spiez are cute towns, but there isn't really that much to see in either. If you like having a pokey day looking in shop windows and sitting at an outside cafe then you may find these towns enjoyable. You could walk around and have lunch down by the river in Thun. There is a hotel opposite the covered brige (is it the Beau Rivage?) with a patio where posh people have lunch.

I didn't go inside Thun castle but it is a steep climb up steps to get there.

There isn't much to see in Gimmelwald. You could take a walk around, then go back down to Murren by cable car.

The Schilthorn is great, but again, if the weather is crappy, you can't see anything once you get up there.

You could walk from Murren to a half-way point (there is a train stop and a restaurant there) then get the train back down to Grutschalp.

You could walk from Lauterbrunnen to Stechelberg via the falls and then take the post bus back to Lauterbrunnen, or continue by cable car from Stechelberg to Gimmelwald.

This is called the Lauterbrunnen-Stechelberg-Gimmelwald-Murren-Lauterbrunnen Loop.

Where are you staying in Wengen?????

The food at the Hotel Schonegg is very good. Pizza Sina is next door. There is also Mary's Cafe for a snack.

Buy takeaway food at the Coop near the train station. They have pre-made sandwiches and salads. They even sell wine.

Don't forget to say "Gruezi" "Merci" and "Tschuss".


Tschuss,
The Great and Powerful Pippy formerly known as Thin

We walked down from the train station at Kleine Scheidegg to Wengen and it was the most beautiful walk I've ever taken.

Yes, the walk from Kleine Scheidegg to Wengen is beautiful, BUT after Wengernalp the decline is STEEP. AND I MEAN STEEP. You have to constantly "brake" or you will go flying headward down that hill. Unless you are in very good shape or you have your hiking boots and "poles" with you, I don't think you should do it as you will be sore the next day.

I did it and I had sore thighs--so bad it was hard to squat for the toilet. OUCH!!!!!!!!!

Pippy

For a nice walk from Wengen take the lift up to Mannlichen and do the famous ridge walk - a flat walk on a wide path to Kleine Scheidegg - actually you can do this on the day you do the Jungfraujoch train - coming back only buy a ticket to Kl Schiedegg and then stroll over to Mannlichen, one of the most raved about viewpoints in all the Berner Oberland because you can see both the Lauterbrunnen and Grindelwald Valleys as well as Interlaken wedged between its lakes far below - then take the lift back down to Wengen.

I have a very different recollection of the walk from Kleine Scheidegg down to Wengen, which I did recently in spite of having some knee problems - I found it a wide path that mountain bikes even used and all terrain vehicles - I did not see any really steep parts but perhaps P peppy took a different train at some point - but the main trail is a wide road suitable for 4-wheel drive vehicles and mountain bikes and one of the easiest hikes I've taken in the area and I have taken many.

so I guess what is steep and rugged varies to different folk? Or perhaps we took different trails - mine went straight from Kleine Schiedegg to Wengen, following for the most part the rail line so if need by you could hop on the train at several points.

I took the main path from Kleine Scheidegg to Wengernalp train station and then continued on the path that goes DOWN HILL and past the Restaurant Allmend in Wengen.

I don't know what other paths there are that go from Wengernalp to Wengen.

And I didn't take any train. I walked from Kleine Scheidegg to Wengen on Sept. 9, 2011. They were setting up for the Jungfrau Triathalon that day.

I didn't do this 10 years ago, or didn't read about it in a travel guide.

Pippy, aka thin

I guess the path has become a lot steeper in two years? Oddly enough I was also there when the Jungfrau Marathon was running, literally thru Interlaken and up into the hills.

To see how rigorous a certain path or hike is peruse the Jungfrau Magazine that will be on every hotel and train station and tourist office rack - look at the relief map in the middle and it grades each path in three degrees - by colors I believe - and use that as your guide. That said I do not know which color the Kl. Scheidegg to Wengen path will be but if it is like P Peppy says it no doubt will be in red.

I had only regular beat up running shoes and no pole or hiking boots - to say you need those is IMO misinformation.

http://www.walkingswitzerland.com/wa..._descrip/8012/

this site rates the Kleine Schedegg to Wengen walk "easy to moderate" which is just as I remember it and it says it takes 2 hours, just as I remember it.

This is in NO way a rigorous hike needing any special boots, hiking poles, etc. Check out the site above for the description.

Note that Wengen to Kl Scheidegg is a rigorous hike because it is going uphill the whole way - but not steeply so at any point that I can remember - indeed vehicles run its route.

The Kleine Schedegg to Wengen walk we took was very easy, through pastures, a couple of hours. I felt like Heidi.

I didn't walk through any pastures. I stayed on the MAIN TRAIL.

Yes, there were mountain bikers on that same trail and it was wide.

PS I have a sister named Heidi

Pippy

I do not know what trail you took but your description of the main trail defies reality - did you read about it in some travel guide and got mixed up on what trail you actually read about?

Pippy must be grounded differently than we are.

I did both trails from Wengernalp down to Wengen (yes, there are two) and one is indeed wide, not too steep and also used by mountainbikers, the other takes a turn towards the cliffs of the Lauterbrunnen valley, then follows along the cliffs and has VERY steep parts, goes through the woods, is a narrow path etc. You approach Wengen from Innerwengen, passing the (sort of) ski stadium.

First of all thanks you all for your suggestions, they really do help for a first timers like us, and P_Peppington can you provide some more info on the three benches up on a hill after Wengernalp (viz. which route to take from etc..).
Any other suggestions on such views, we want to make this trip memorable as much as possible..

The three benches are up on a hill right after the Wengernalp train station/restaurant. As you walk down from Kleine Scheidegg you will see a sign post with the little yellow arrow signs with black lettering. There is a fork in the road here and I am almost postitive the path that runs through a pasture/meadow on the left of the gravel path says "Lauterbrunnen," or it might say "Wengen," but the travel time was greater (the signs tell you how far, for example 3 Stad.)so I didn't take that path. I took the path that had the lesser travelling time.

I did procede towards the large building that is the Wengernalp train station. You will see it as you approach.

You will walk right in front of the train station and see tables with umbrellas out front. Walk right past and continue on. You will then see a STONE TUNNEL UNDERPASS. DO NOT GO THROUGH THE TUNNEL. You will see an arrow paited on top of the tunnel pointing toward the dirt and gravel path. Keep on that path. You will then see the benches up on the hill right after a few minutes of walking.

If you are in doubt, just ask someone in the train station.

If you continue on the path, you will descend into Wengen through the "woods." Eventually you will see a ski lift, then go past the Allmend Restaurant.

If you walk from Murren to Grutschalp, you will also encounter benches where you can sit and look down on Wengen.

When you are on the train up to Wengen from Lauterbrunnen, make sure you sit on the right hand side of the train facing forward. You will encounter a very stunning view of Lauterbrunnen after coming out of the tunnel.

The views on the train up to the Schynige Platte are also spectacular.

Pippy aka Thin

Hi P_Peppington, Thank you very much for the details, need some suggestions on the below

1) Can i hire a bike(bicycle) somewhere in the area, so that i can drive along with my son.

2) Any suggestion for bad weather(viz. if it's raining or foggy in Jungfrou, then can i try Shcilthorn or FIRST or Schynige Platte..) definetly the Boat trip to Lake Brienz is in my mind, but we wish to cover the mountains as much as possible..

3) Any other suggestions on such walking trails with lots of photo options..

Thank you all again for your inputs

Schilthorn is probably not a reliable backup option for Jungfrau. If one is socked in cloud, so is the other peak.

I would try hard to have days 1, 3, and 4 also available to do Jungfrau/Schilthorn. If day 1 is the only day forecast to be fair, is leaving Luzern as early as possible an option?

I am presuming if the weather for day 1 and 2 and not favorable, you would do something like Trümmelbach Fälle or the lake cruise and do Jungfrau/Schilthorn on day 3 or 4.

Yes greg, if we start Luzern by 8am, will be reaching by 10:45, luggage drop @hotel and back to station by 12:00, now my doubt is if we start by 12 to Jungfrau or Schilthorn from wengen, will it be OK or if it;s late afternoon any suggestions for the rest of the day trip..