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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 08:37 AM
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London is my favourite big city in the world. I love the LIme Tree Hotel in Belgravia, it is small and charming and I looked at room rates for beginning of April and it is within your budget but it books up fast. There are good restaurants around and some nice independent shops, buses outside and the tube is nearby, you can walk up to Sloane Square in ten minutes.
I also love Sloane Square and have stayed at the Sloane Square Hotel which overlooks the square, great location, the hotel is nice, maybe not as nice as the Lime Tree but good. If you are feeling energetic you can walk from both of these hotels up to South Kensington and museums etc.
Marylebone is another area I like to stay, you are close to Oxford St, Mayfair etc there.
Hope you enjoy London.
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 09:01 AM
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Now I am a bit overwhelmed since I know nothing about the city or its layout.

I googled tube stops with direct access to Heathrow and found a suggestion for Earl's court area. So, I did a very quick search for hotels/apartments and came across this one as an example of something that could work.

https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/templeton-place.html

What about the neighborhood it's in? Would it fit my desires as described above? " I'd need to be in a neighborhood that has convenient public transportation to Heathrow. A nice neighborhood for walking and exploring, with easy access to public transportation if I decided to see some museums or other tourist sites. Perhaps in an area where there are lovely parks or green space. I often find that I enjoy just walking and browsing interesting local areas as much as I enjoy the typical tourist places."

Should I truly be looking for a place to stay that is on the direct line to the airport? If I had to choose, I'd probably opt for interesting neighborhood most of all. But, I also wouldn't want to stay in a place where it's a huge hassle and a long time to get to the airport. In a place like London where there's great public transportation, I am a public transportation to the airport type of person.

raincitygirl I took a look at the Lime Tree, and it does look very nice. But, it doesn't have a fridge, and that is something I want for a multiple night stay. Thanks for the suggestion. Is this neighborhood easily accessed to get to the airport?
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 09:19 AM
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A couple of thoughts that might be a departure from others' ideas...

Look at Windsor as a possible alternative to central London. If one of the reasons for this layover is to overcome jetlag and be ready for Jordan, then maybe going with a less hectic setting, albeit one with plenty of history, fabulous walks, affordable lodging choices... might fill the bill.

Windsor is very close to Heathrow and IMO is an ideal substitute for a short layover compared to the central metropolis. Just a thought, anyway.
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 09:58 AM
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We are just back from an 8-night trip to London. We had great weather (for January) no rain! Anyways, we have visited the city several times and our favorite place to stay is the Chesterfield Mayfair. It is about 2 blocks from Green Park station which has 3 lines running (Jubilee, Piccadilly, Victoria) so transport around to the sights is easy. Easy access to Green Park, Hyde Park, Mount Street Gardens. One block from Shepherd Market - a pedestrian area filled with pubs, restaurants & shops. We love the Chesterfield Mayfair and have stayed several times.

https://chesterfieldmayfair.com/
https://www.shepherdmarket.com/
https://mayfairfoodie.com/restaurant...arket-mayfair/
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 10:20 AM
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Bette I checked out the Chesterfield Mayfair. It's lovely but a tad more than I was hoping to spend. And, it doesn't have a fridge, which is a bottom line requirement for me for a stay of a couple days.

Gardyloo Your idea is really, really intriguing. At one point I had thought about a smaller place like Bath or Oxford thinking a smaller place might be just the ticket. Then I looked up their locations and realized why they wouldn't work. So, I am definitely going to give Windsor a hard look.
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 10:24 AM
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Just very quick -- back from the most expensive lunch I've ever had (and truly worth it . . . finally made it to HIDE and alllthe hype is warranted - cold sandwich from M&S for dinner )

Anyway as direct access to/from LHR do not limit yourself to Earls Court for sure. Yes, the Piccadilly line does hit Earls Court but also nicer areas all along the route. But also anyplace along the Circle or District Line (thats what you'd use for the Lime Tree rialtogirl suggested -- wonderful property BTW). Circle/District isn't on the Piccadilly line but has the easiest ever transfer at Hammersmith -- literally a 30 foot stroll across the same platform so just as convenient as anything on the Piccadilly Line.

And then there is the Elizabeth Line which is the fastest way between LHR and central London. So Bond Street, Tottenham Court Rd, Farringdon, etc. are also in the running.

Don't get me wrong, Earls Court is fine, but there are about 20 neighborhoods with good LHR access that are 'fine-er'
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 10:27 AM
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I can't believe it! Overnight roundtrip airfare US to London in economy for the flights I was thinking about went up $400! This is still 2+ months out, and I know how to play the wait for prices to change game. This though is ridiculous.
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 10:35 AM
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I have found that waiting for airfare prices to drop is not a good thing, in my experience recently they tend to go up the longer you wait. I'm in Canada, maybe it's just us but ever since covid that has been my experience. If you see a fare you can live with, best to book it right then and there.
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by julies
Now I am a bit overwhelmed since I know nothing about the city or its layout.

I googled tube stops with direct access to Heathrow and found a suggestion for Earl's court area. So, I did a very quick search for hotels/apartments and came across this one as an example of something that could work.

https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/templeton-place.html

What about the neighborhood it's in? Would it fit my desires as described above? " I'd need to be in a neighborhood that has convenient public transportation to Heathrow. A nice neighborhood for walking and exploring, with easy access to public transportation if I decided to see some museums or other tourist sites. Perhaps in an area where there are lovely parks or green space. I often find that I enjoy just walking and browsing interesting local areas as much as I enjoy the typical tourist places."

Should I truly be looking for a place to stay that is on the direct line to the airport? If I had to choose, I'd probably opt for interesting neighborhood most of all. But, I also wouldn't want to stay in a place where it's a huge hassle and a long time to get to the airport. In a place like London where there's great public transportation, I am a public transportation to the airport type of person.

raincitygirl I took a look at the Lime Tree, and it does look very nice. But, it doesn't have a fridge, and that is something I want for a multiple night stay. Thanks for the suggestion. Is this neighborhood easily accessed to get to the airport?
Yes, I believe you can take the National Express to Victoria Coach station and then it's a 3-5 minute walk. Victoria station is very near the hotel.
I think there are better neighbourhoods than Earl's Court personally.
In terms of the fridge in the room I could swear there was a mini fridge in my room as I bought some snacks from the lovely but a bit $ Italian shop next door. Maybe email the hotel and ask?
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If you want a hotel with a kitchenette, the Resident Hotels all have a frig, microwave and sink, and are all highly rated on that other travel forum. They're having their January sale for members (free sign up), so rates are better. I've stayed multiple times at the Resident Kensington and the Resident Victoria, and really like their rooms. I've never stayed at the Resident Covent Garden or Soho, as they're always higher than I need to spend.
https://www.residenthotels.com/edinb...xoCA8AQAvD_BwE

You might also look at the Locke apart-hotel https://www.lockeliving.com/en/london/ember-locke. I've NOT stayed there, but I'd bookmarked it for future looks.

When staying in Earl's Court, I enjoy walking all over the residential areas of South Kensington, up to that "museum row" and Hyde Park, or south to posh Chelsea. And then on the way home, bringing back some elderflower drinks and cheese and crackers for the room. Also, I often head to West London attractions, like Kew, Chiswick House, Syon Park. So your templeton place apartment looks very convenient to me. That being said, I do find myself logging 8-12 miles/day when I stay in that area because I prefer to walk and wander rather than be underground on the tube, (which sounds like you), as opposed to when I stay in Covent Garden or Westminster, which is just so much more "central" to a lot of places I'd visit.

However, as Janis mentions, anywhere on the Piccadily or Circle/District line is very easy to LHR (b/c that Hammersmith connection is so simple). As is the Elizabeth Line.

I'd probably recommend the Resident Covent Garden or Resident Soho for you, as this is your first trip. You'll have no trouble finding green spaces because London has wonderful parks everywhere. Covent Garden/Soho is very well-positioned for a tourist. Or Westminster and Victoria for all the pomp. Or Russell Square for the British Museum. (If you're going to Jordan, I'm assuming a passion for ancient civilizations, so even though this will be a slow-travel visit to London, a trip to the British Museum would seem to be must. The Rosetta Stone alone is worth the visit, no matter how you feel about the controversy over its repatriation.)

Best of luck deciding, and have fun planning!

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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 12:48 PM
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Before the Covid plague, we stayed at the Residence Hotel (it was named Nadler then) near the Earls Court tube station. The rooms were nice and had a closet kitchen. Earls Court station is a straight shot to and from Heathrow, no stairs, and connects neatly to other tube lines. The hotel is a short walk to Hyde Park. There is also a Premier Inn right there which may be cheaper. Plenty of restaurants and take out shops in the neighborhood, but my info on them is out of date. I have a trip report: The Peabody Papers: AJ and Mrs. Peabody Visit London, 2018
I see AJPeabody is also a fan. I'd stayed there when it was the base2stay, then the Nadler, and finally the Resident. It's really a very comfortable, clean, quiet place to stay. It's definitely very easy to Heathrow, though I admit the Elizabeth Line from Tottenham Court Road to LHR was pretty wonderful.
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 02:13 PM
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janisj I had no idea you were such a London aficionado!
Janisj is THE aficionado for England & Scotland around these parts! You can't go wrong following her advice.

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This trip sounds like a great idea! It shouldn't be a huge hassle to get to the airport, and you can have a really great time in London with 3 or 4 nights.

Let me suggest the Bayswater area--not expensive and right near Paddington station, which means you can either take the Heathrow Express or the cheaper and barely slower Elizabeth line on the Tube. In total there are four different Tube lines in the area that will all bring you to major tourist attractions. There are lots of grocery stores in Bayswater (check out their 4-6 pound meal deals for a great quick meal) and quick-service restaurants and Hyde Park (and Kensington Palace!) are an easy walk away, as is Notting Hill, which is a beautiful neighborhood (but more expensive and less convenient than Bayswater to stay in). I would recommend the Kensington Gardens Hotel (9 Kensington Gardens Square, London W2 4BH) which is in a garden square but walkable to everything nearby, but if it's booked out there are lots of other options.
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Old Jan 24th, 2025 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ChgoGal
Janisj is THE aficionado for England & Scotland around these parts! You can't go wrong following her advice.
Ah shucks ☺️ There are a lot of UK experts/fans on Fodors. Few willing to fly from the west coast for 4 days -- I'll grant you that LOL.
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Old Jan 25th, 2025 | 10:51 AM
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I really appreciate the advice all of you have given me, but now I have more questions. (I did look at gardyloo's idea of Windsor but have decided to make this a 4 night stay, and there isn't enough in Windsor for 4 nights.)

"I'd need to be in a neighborhood that has convenient public transportation to Heathrow. A nice neighborhood for walking and exploring, with easy access to public transportation if I decided to see some museums or other tourist sites. Perhaps in an area where there are lovely parks or green space. I often find that I enjoy just walking and browsing interesting local areas as much as I enjoy the typical tourist places." In addition to my original requirements, I guess I forgot to add that I would definitely pick a quieter more residential area with a few local shops and restaurants over a more typical tourist neighborhood that is hopping with shops, souvenir stores, restaurants and bars. I really like to just walk through neighborhoods and look at how people live. I don't want noisy, busy areas aimed at tourists. And, for airport access I don't want to be dragging my suitcase more than about 4 blocks or so to the tube station, especially since it very definitely could be raining.

Many of you have made great suggestions that I have added to my list of definite possibilities, so I not asking about those right now. As janis had originally suggested, I been browsing on booking.com and here's what I have so far.

All of these places passed a quick first pass through, but I haven't looked at them in depth. For most (but not all) I would be looking probably at the mid-range rooms rather than the cheapest and smallest. Can you please give me some advice on whether these locations (not lodging itself) should be eliminated or elevated in my rankings based on their environment or general ambience? And, please tell me if there are other areas I should definitely be looking at to mesh with my requirements.


Kensington & Chelsea area

City Prime Apartments https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/collingham-prime.html? Earls Court 1350 ft. & Gloucester Road Tube Station 1800 ft.

Templeton Place https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/templeton-place.html? Earls Court 800 ft,
West Brompton Tube Station
2,600 ft

The Bailey's Hotel https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/mil...nsington.html? Gloucester Road Tube Station 750 ft, South Kensington Tube Station 2,150 ft

The Harrington https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/the-harrington.html?
Gloucester Road 600 ft., South Kensington Tube 2000 ft

5400 Queen's Gate Hotel https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/queensgate.html? Gloucester Road 1500 ft., South Kensington Tube 2100 ft

Sloane Avenue, Chelsea and Kensington

Nell Gwynn House https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/nell-gwynn-house.html? Sloane Tube 2550 ft., South Kensington 2200 ft.

Westminster

Tophams Hotel https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/the-tophams.html? Victoria Station 1200 ft., Sloane Tube .7 miles

Citadines Trafalgar Square https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/cit...rafalgar.html? Charing Cross 600 ft., Embankment Tube 700 ft.


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Old Jan 25th, 2025 | 11:19 AM
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Im sitting at the interval of Pirates so cant read your whole post right now - will when I get back to the hotel. But suffice it to say there are 20+ neighborhoods that would work for you. Understanding that London is ENORMOUS and no neighborhood is strictly residential and most can be a bit touristy. And several have good connections to LHR. More later
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So Nell Gwynne house is in Chelsea which I love because it is more of a residential neighbourhood, albeit with nice restaurants and shops especially around Sloane Square and on the King's Road. The buildings are beautiful, there are small pocket parks, the people watching is good, it's an upmarket neighbourhood but not intimidating if that makes sense. You have good transportation from there and if you are energetic you can walk to lots of places from there. However in this area I still prefer Sloane Square hotel or the Lime tree which I mentioned to you before. But that is just me and my preference. This place could suit you and your requirements well.

The first four I wouldn't stay at just because that end of the Cromwell Road is busy, it's not as charming, I just don't care for it as much as other areas. There's nothing bad about it in terms of safety etc it is just not very appealing. Maybe down the side streets, but where those hotels/apts seem to be situated, it's not appealing to me. I went to the Design museum there last year to a very good exhibit and remember thinking I'm glad I didn't stay here. Lots of traffic.
Queen's Gate, maybe, it's a little further into South Ken but still on Gloucester Road, going to be very busy with traffic etc.

Tophams Hotel, not bad at all, looks to be very handy to Victoria station but again the LIme Tree is close by and from memory where it sits is just a bit more charming and appealing. But that is probably me being really picky. Aesthetics matter to me a lot. I think this one would be just fine for ticking your boxes.

Citadines Trafalgar Square is going to be different to those mentioned above in that it is close and handy to lots of museums, art galleries etc and you do have some nice parks there and can walk along the river but it is not going to be as "residential neighbourhoody" in feel as the others I like. However, it's a really interesting area with lots to see and look at and when you get tired there are the parks to duck into. It will be busy there and loads of other tourists but if I was going to pick "busy" it would be this one over the first 4 or 5, especially when you haven't been to London before.
I only looked at location, not the properties themselves.

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Old Jan 25th, 2025 | 11:31 PM
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Can't add much to what raincitygirl posted. And ditto almost all of it.

re Nell G. House: I've stayed there twice but last time was years ago -- maybe 15+?? So I can't advise re current management etc. Anyyway there are all sorts of units from tiny studios to large flats. It is midway between South Kensington and Sloane Square tube stations. Not that close to either one a bit over 10 minutes walk to each.

Tophams is towards the top end of Ebury Street so a bit shorter walk to Victoria station than is the Lime Tree. Another place to checkin Ebury Street is B&B Belgravia. Terrific food. Rooms are in two different buildings two doors apart but breakfast is served in their main bldg.

The Citadines is a very short walk - like 3 mins / 4 mins with luggage - from Embankment station which is the one you'd use traveling in from LHR (after changing at Hammersmith)

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I have only stayed at one on your list which is the Citadines at Trafalgar Square but that was at least 10 years ago. Good location near the river but no parks nearby. I have stayed at the Holborn Citadines several times over the last 10 years. Good location close to the tube/Piccadilly line straight to LHR. Newly renovated but have not stayed there recently.
I do like the Citadines for the price for a decent size room with a small kitchen and self service laundry in the building. Ikea quality but pleasant. Did spend a few nights at the Holborn Hoxton last month but would not stay there again. Small rooms even though we had the largest with 3 star like quality. Poor value. Good although expensive breakfast.
Busy bar scene at night but noise did not carry.
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Old Jan 26th, 2025 | 03:27 AM
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So, I have lots to think about (first of all to make sure I absolutely am going to do this). And, using booking.com there are a gazillion hits for my dates so how to narrow all those choices down is another challenge. Thanks for all the assistance.
Booking.com has filters that let you set price range and many other requirements. You can also put a neighborhood or point of interest in the search bar.

For example, instead of just requesting hotels in London, I put "London Earl's Court tube station". (I've never stayed in that area, but Janis mentioned that it was very convenient for transportation to Heathrow.) Under filters, I requested an 8 or more score for guest ratings. (The guest ratings are quite reliable on booking.com, because only verified guests are allowed to post a review, and only after they've been verified to have stayed there.)

There are many other possible filters, and you can see how much each will restrict the field. I didn't do any in-depth search of the results, but this hotel jumped out to me:

The Mornington Hotel
https://www.booking.com/Share-D1KkPq
​​​It looks like the kind of hotel you're looking for.

I haven't flown into Heathrow in a long time, but when I did, I used to stay in the Victoria area. There was one change of stations to get there, but it was a very easy change, just walking to the other side of the platform. It was a convenient neighborhood for sightseeing and an easy walk from St. James' Park.

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