3.5 Weeks in Europe with no luggage

Old Sep 27th, 2014, 09:36 AM
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A LONG FLEECE SKIRT?????????? Yikes! better to layer those 3 pair of yoga pants -haha.

This person is doing a city tour of Europe. She doesn't need to buy any new clothes. She can work with what she has in her own closet.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 09:38 AM
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Oh good lord in heaven yourself. These people are going sightseeing in February

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...old/52992316/1
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 09:44 AM
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http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...de_France.html
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 09:50 AM
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Good grief. I live in the Utah mountains at 6800 ft. in a ski town and I have NEVER seen a fleece skirt. Do they make such a thing?

I wear fleece around home (pants and tops) for half the year, but would never be caught dead in fleece pants in public. Park City is VERY casual and I have never seen anyone wearing fleece pants (or a skirt). Ski/board pants, yoga pants, yes.

Not something I would do in any city in Europe.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 10:13 AM
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Don't take the fleece skirt suggestion too seriously, I'm sure she's joking. I'm from Minnesota and it gets pretty cold there too. Don't know a soul who would be caught wearing a fleece skirt. And fleece pants are only for when you're using the snow blower. Next, the OP will be told to get a Snuggie.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 10:13 AM
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For February in European cities I would take something like this (my plane ride outfit is included in this list):

3 pair of pants (wool, lined, jeans, leggins, cords, whatever)
3-4 long sleeve tops (silk or cotton knit)
1 dressier black cardigan sweater
1 bulkier pullover sweater neutral color
1@ hat, scarf, gloves, travel umbrella
1 wool winter coat just below the knee length
1 pr comfortable black boots with rubber sole
1 pr walking shoes or dark sneakers
1 pr of slipper and something to sleep in
appropriate underwear, bra, socks
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 11:28 AM
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Have none of you world travelers ever been to Europe in cold weather and noticed that the cafes have fleece throws on the chairs outside so that people can be comfortable sitting outdoors?

The OP said she was thinking of wearing 3 pairs of yoga pants at the same time to keep warm -- except because she is short, she figured that it might make her look funny enough that her husband would laugh at her for 18 days.

I suggested a fleece pencil skirt -- but since they are often so expensive (they are actually fashion items, folks, with Fendi selling them for $800 plus, although you can find some for under $100 if you dig around) -- I also included a link to a very inexpensive stretch cotton skirt that could be worn over pants or tights would be a better layer than 3 pairs of yoga pants for warmth.

Up to the petite OP what she wants to wear, but if you have never seen fleece skirts in Europe on petite women (or enjoyed wearing them with boots when it is cold) you might not want to display your ignorance so broadly.

http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.as...issionJunction

http://www.matchesfashion.com/product/215237

http://www.lyst.com/clothing/rick-ow...ce-long-skirt/
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 11:33 AM
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http://www.cosmopolitan.com.au/fashi...pants-image-1/

http://cornerofjoy.blogspot.it/2012/...in-skirts.html

http://www.thefind.com/apparel/info-cotton-fleece-skirt

or you could wear 3 pair of yoga pants and not only look like a baby elephant, but be cold as well
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 11:57 AM
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Trying not to get into a fashion argument here. But just because something is expensive it doesn't make it a good idea. And a fleece throw is not the same as a fleece skirt. That said, suze, your recommendations made a lot of sense. The only thing I would add to that would possibly be silk underwear. Nothing much beats it. I've been to Europe in the winter, in snow, and honestly it's not the end of the world. And please don't call me ignorant just because I don't agree with you.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 12:51 PM
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<<The OP said she was thinking of wearing 3 pairs of yoga pants at the same time to keep warm>>

NO she did NOT. She said she was considering wearing a bunch of layers *on the plane* in order to maximize the number of items she had with her, and still be able to pack in a small carry-on suitcase. It was never about warmth. At least pay attention if you're going to start insulting people.

ceezee, Sure you could add silk underwear if you're spending a lot of time outdoors or hiking or something. That is an actual packing list from a winter Switzerland trip of mine, but I was only in towns and cities not up in the mountains (which I don't think MsWorthy will be either from her list of destinations).
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 01:01 PM
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Yeah, suze, you're right about the silk underwear. Unless I was going to be in bitter cold, way under zero Fahrenheit, I'd skip it. I like hiking and am an outdoorsy person but I don't add them either. Their main draw is they take no space and for a top, they can add a nice layer under a sweater without any bulk.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 01:09 PM
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& i know some people also like to use them for PJs because they pack so small and wash & dry overnight.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 03:03 PM
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Cheese: sandralist/zeppole doesn't joke about ANYTHING. Trust us she was serious - daft but serious.

A full length fleece skirt. More than bizarre IMO.

And trust me, someone on a budget trip sure as hell ain't going to rush out to the nearest Fendi boutique to pick up a $800 skirt.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 03:18 PM
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No long underwear, silk or otherwise: when dressing in layers, the bottom layer shouldn't be the one you'd want to pull off if you get too warm.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 03:19 PM
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I doubt anyone is going to rush out and get an $800 fleece skirt. Well, at least no one I know. She couldn't have been serious. But apparently she has been more than one person here.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 03:29 PM
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Ah, janisj.... Thank you for the information about the other name, I now understand.

bvlenci, I am usually too warm so I like to be able to get quickly down to the least amount of clothing. This is what happens when you ar a woman of a certain age. Or someone from Minnesota who likes to feel cold in general.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 04:27 PM
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I've been a whole bunch of people! What on earth difference does it make to the OP?

I gave a link to a skirt that costs less than $20. TWENTY DOLLARS!!!

I mentioned the $800 Fendi skirt for people who think fleece skirts don't think they are worn in Europe.

And now I will give a link to a picture of a very pretty (and short) woman wearing a skirt over pants in London in February. I am not certain it is fleece but it is close.

http://www.thesartorialist.com/photo...strand-london/

A lot of us women wear long skirts in winter over tights and knit pants in winter in Europe. Yes, I am serious. It is a great way to pack light if you are traveling in winter because pants are very small and light to pack and you can keep wearing the same skirt without needing to wash it.

I don't think the OP will warm enough in many places wearing yoga pants. She doesn't need to wear a skirt but she needs something more than yoga pants.
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 04:39 PM
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For the OP (hi again!):

I should have typed that tights or knit pants are easy to pack. I would not try to take jeans and cord pants as is being suggested if you are trying to do carry on. And no, I don't think you should wear 3 pairs of yoga pants on the plane. A long skirt would definitely look better ! -- but if you don't like skirts then I do highly recommend some long johns as I said before rather than bulky pants and sweaters. There are not expensive if you buy them on clearance and they are super light and super small in your suitcase.

But now I am going to go change this screen name and create a new ID, so you won't hear from me again as sandralist. It's something I do to drive the biddies on Fodor's crazy. And they think I take things too seriously???
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Old Sep 27th, 2014, 05:13 PM
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The issue wasn't wearing a skirt over a pair of tights or pants.

If you feel that you need to keep changing identities in order to be taken seriously, then you should probably rethink your objectives. Usually those of here are just trying to help others. Of course, you might have other objectives.
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I am a person who is used to wear jeans trousers all the time and haven't wear a skirt for ages. I would never wear one on a trip, over trousers or not, simply because it is not me and I would feel uncomfortable. And I have been in Poland on winter on -20 degrees and manage fine with my jean trouser, standy walkign shoes and a sort sleeved T-shirt, a long sleeved T-shirt and a sporty thin jacket on top. This doesn't mean it could work for everyone but it worked for me.

I think that feeling comfortable (on all aspects) is important while traveling. It is hard to know what works for each person and I think generic ideas such as "get dressed in layers" or "you will need a piece of cloth which is not bulky but keeps you warm" and the most important "be prepared for lots of walking on uneven terrain and get appropriate shoes" are absolutely fine. Or advice like "More formal dressing is appropriate for X venue so you do not feel out of place" or "Casual clothing is fine roaming the streets of Y and visiting Z attraction".

But I am not sure getting into so much details as of how many pair of underware someone travels with or which brand of shoes he wears are of use. Everyone is different and get dressed differently. The more one travels the more s/he gains experience and sees what works for his/her self, customised on his/her needs and personal dressing style.
I might be wrong but I feel this topic has gone over the top somewhow.
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