Which island for a proposal?
Aug 4th, 2005, 10:39 AM
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Which island for a proposal?
I'm taking my girlfriend to the caribbean for a week this March 26-April 2 or June 21-28; it will be the first time for both of us. These are the only times we have free, since March is spring break and we graduate from college June 16. She doesn't even know it yet, I'm going to surprise her for her birthday with the plane tickets, then while we're there I'm going to propose to her on the beach watching the sunset.
The things that are important:
- Easy access to the beach (not necessarily right on the beach).
- Beautiful beaches: extremely important, we'll be spending a lot of time just chilling out on the beach. I'd like to do a couple days of exploring, but mostly we'll be on the beach. Calm water would be a plus, we're used to the Gulf in Florida and prefer that to heavy surf (like at the Jersey Shore).
- Low cost, high value. I'm a college student so the budget will be tight (especially after the ring!).
- We can go without air conditioning. I'd prefer a place that doesn't have a lot of bugs. Wild animals aren't a problem, but she's afraid of bugs and hates mosquitoes.
- No all included (we aren't big eaters).
- Beautiful clear water! (I think this is a given at most places, right?)
- Decent snorkeling, we've never done it but want to try it, so it doesn't have to be amazing or anything. I'd prefer to be able to do it right from the beach instead of booking tours. We'll probably bring our own gear, because I'm sure we'll love it and will want to use it again in the future.
- Cheap food! We aren't going to want to pay $50 for every meal, is this a reasonable expectation? We don't drink much alcohol, and rarely order appetizers or desserts, so that should help cut costs.
- Safety would be a plus, since we're inexperienced travelers and young.
I've found that June is significantly cheaper than March, so even though I'd prefer March, we'll likely go in June.
Please give me any recommendations you have! I've looked at St. John USVI (too expensive?), Antigua (too expensive?), Puerto Rico (not relaxing enough, lots of driving around?), Mexico (not 'exotic' enough?), and Aruba (my current pick). For example I have a tentative 6 night stay in Aruba, costing about $2600 winter/$2300 summer including airfare, food, and jeep rental for 2 days. T&C also looks incredible, but I've read it can be buggy in June, and a bit pricey (although we'd be fine with going to the supermarket and preparing most of our meals).
I'm open for any suggestions, just islands in general or specific resorts. Thanks in advance!
The things that are important:
- Easy access to the beach (not necessarily right on the beach).
- Beautiful beaches: extremely important, we'll be spending a lot of time just chilling out on the beach. I'd like to do a couple days of exploring, but mostly we'll be on the beach. Calm water would be a plus, we're used to the Gulf in Florida and prefer that to heavy surf (like at the Jersey Shore).
- Low cost, high value. I'm a college student so the budget will be tight (especially after the ring!).
- We can go without air conditioning. I'd prefer a place that doesn't have a lot of bugs. Wild animals aren't a problem, but she's afraid of bugs and hates mosquitoes.
- No all included (we aren't big eaters).
- Beautiful clear water! (I think this is a given at most places, right?)
- Decent snorkeling, we've never done it but want to try it, so it doesn't have to be amazing or anything. I'd prefer to be able to do it right from the beach instead of booking tours. We'll probably bring our own gear, because I'm sure we'll love it and will want to use it again in the future.
- Cheap food! We aren't going to want to pay $50 for every meal, is this a reasonable expectation? We don't drink much alcohol, and rarely order appetizers or desserts, so that should help cut costs.
- Safety would be a plus, since we're inexperienced travelers and young.
I've found that June is significantly cheaper than March, so even though I'd prefer March, we'll likely go in June.
Please give me any recommendations you have! I've looked at St. John USVI (too expensive?), Antigua (too expensive?), Puerto Rico (not relaxing enough, lots of driving around?), Mexico (not 'exotic' enough?), and Aruba (my current pick). For example I have a tentative 6 night stay in Aruba, costing about $2600 winter/$2300 summer including airfare, food, and jeep rental for 2 days. T&C also looks incredible, but I've read it can be buggy in June, and a bit pricey (although we'd be fine with going to the supermarket and preparing most of our meals).
I'm open for any suggestions, just islands in general or specific resorts. Thanks in advance!
Aug 4th, 2005, 10:52 AM
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Hi Philly!I am Tropicaldreamer2 from the Tripadvisor site.(I used my name on this site.)You should get some good advice on this forum.
I see that you find St John to be too expensive..maybe look into Negril,Jamaica.The Beachcomber looks really nice and is on a nice long stretch of beach.I believe that it is around $150 a night.
If you are interested in Negril...here is a website to check out www.negril.com
I see that you find St John to be too expensive..maybe look into Negril,Jamaica.The Beachcomber looks really nice and is on a nice long stretch of beach.I believe that it is around $150 a night.
If you are interested in Negril...here is a website to check out www.negril.com
Aug 4th, 2005, 10:58 AM
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Philly:
Sorry to confuse you but I just noticed that you want to try snorkeling.I know that it is wonderful in St John and the beaches are calm..which is also what you prefer.
You could always rent a villa on St John.Did you ever check out the website that I gave you on the other forum?Just in case..here are some more.
www.caribbeanvilla.com
www.caribbeanway.com
www.seaviewhomes.com
Also would you prefer an island that is flat or mountainous??St John is lush and mountainous..Aruba is the opposite.Good luck and I am sure that you will get some good advice on this forum.
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Sorry to confuse you but I just noticed that you want to try snorkeling.I know that it is wonderful in St John and the beaches are calm..which is also what you prefer.
You could always rent a villa on St John.Did you ever check out the website that I gave you on the other forum?Just in case..here are some more.
www.caribbeanvilla.com
www.caribbeanway.com
www.seaviewhomes.com
Also would you prefer an island that is flat or mountainous??St John is lush and mountainous..Aruba is the opposite.Good luck and I am sure that you will get some good advice on this forum.
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Aug 4th, 2005, 11:06 AM
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Philly:
I just checked..found a few villas on St John some with a pool or jaquzzi or both for around &1200-1500 for a week in June.They were on the caribbeanvilla website.I think those prices will be cheaper than Gallows Point that I recommended on Tripadvisor.
Again..good luck!
I just checked..found a few villas on St John some with a pool or jaquzzi or both for around &1200-1500 for a week in June.They were on the caribbeanvilla website.I think those prices will be cheaper than Gallows Point that I recommended on Tripadvisor.
Again..good luck!
Aug 4th, 2005, 11:23 AM
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Hello Tropicaldreamer2!
Thanks for the suggestions. This is driving me nuts, every island looks so great it's impossible to pick. As far as flat or mountainous, it doesn't make too much of a difference. It would certainly be nice to see forests and waterfalls, but not a requirement.
What are the advantages to renting a villa as opposed to staying at a resort? (aside from the extra privacy). It seems like we'd have to rent a car for the week doing that, especially on St John.
Negril looks like a good choice for the price. Isn't Jamaica considered a "dangerous" island to visit, though?
I can tell this is going to be extremely tough choosing with all the different options and prices.
Thanks for the suggestions. This is driving me nuts, every island looks so great it's impossible to pick. As far as flat or mountainous, it doesn't make too much of a difference. It would certainly be nice to see forests and waterfalls, but not a requirement.
What are the advantages to renting a villa as opposed to staying at a resort? (aside from the extra privacy). It seems like we'd have to rent a car for the week doing that, especially on St John.
Negril looks like a good choice for the price. Isn't Jamaica considered a "dangerous" island to visit, though?
I can tell this is going to be extremely tough choosing with all the different options and prices.
Aug 4th, 2005, 11:45 AM
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Bucuti Beach would be ideal for you both.
We stayed there last June and it was such a wonderfully relaxing vacation.
I could rave on and on about this hotel but I suggest you check out the reviews on Tripadvisor, they are renovating the older rooms this year.
www.bucuti.com
We stayed there last June and it was such a wonderfully relaxing vacation.
I could rave on and on about this hotel but I suggest you check out the reviews on Tripadvisor, they are renovating the older rooms this year.
www.bucuti.com
Aug 4th, 2005, 11:50 AM
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Expedia is showing a rate of $175 per night, so a 7 night stay would be $1478.
Let us know where you decide to visit.
BTW, I also suggest Idle Awhile in Negril - wonderful place and when we visited in May we felt very safe even late at night walking back along the beach
Let us know where you decide to visit.
BTW, I also suggest Idle Awhile in Negril - wonderful place and when we visited in May we felt very safe even late at night walking back along the beach
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Try the Mayan Riviera area of Mexico. I can personally recommend the Barcelo Maya all-inclusive resort. There is good snorkelling right at the resort and there is so much to do or not to do at the resort. It has one of the best discos in the area and one of the best theatre in the area that is included. It is your choice. The Barcelo Maya has one of the best beaches in the area that is almost 2 miles long and is quite private and cool white sand and calm clear turquoise water.
I would not worry about hurricanes too much in June. The height of hurricane season in Caribbean or Mexico is September and the further you move away from that month, the less likely you are to have one. Not saying it couldn't happen, but the chances are less likely.
We have been 3 times now to the Barcelo Maya resort at the end of June to the beginning of July and have wonderful weather, although it is hot, but then all of the Caribbean would be hot in June.
All inclusive is basically your most cost effective way to do the Caribbean and drinks and food can be expensive in the Caribbean. With all inclusive also included is non-motorized water sports and some all inclusives motorized water sports are included, sports equipment is included as well as activities if you want and entertainment and most times snorkeling and even diving lessons are included. Each all inclusive resort is different in what they include so read the travel brochures or on line sites for the resort. Also, all you can eat or drink (both alcoholic and non alcoholic). Most all inclusives have at least a couple of ala carte restaurants that are included during your stay. Most all inclusives include tipping, but we usually tip to those who are very good to us, but it is not required. There are some very good all-inclusive resorts in this area of Mexico. Also, with all inclusive you will basically know what your vacation will cost before you go away and there will not be any big surprises on your hotel bill at the end of your stay, so it makes it easier to plan. If you want you can still go out for that special dinner once or twice during your stay and you are not tied to your resort as some would have you believe. Check out my second reply on the Aruba tripadvisor forum regarding how to get a great sell-off. It is cheaper than some other Caribbean destinations and the Barcelo Maya is very good value for the dollar.
Another destination to consider if you are watching your dollars is Punta Cana. The beach there is outstanding, but there is not much to do off the resort, and you must be very careful of the drinking water in Punta Cana and must drink and brush teeth with bottled water. The Mayan Riviera of Mexico is more forgiving and we usually brush our teeth with tap water and drink bottled water simply because the water taste better and we have never gotten sick. Most of the newer resorts in the Mayan Riviera have water purifications systems on site. There is a lot of culture and history in Mexico.
I found Aruba very commercialized/Americanized with almost every American fast food chain, a couple of American restuarants such as Hooters and Tony Romas, lots of highrises on the beach and personally I felt like I was on a beach in Florida with a Arizona landscape.
I would not worry about hurricanes too much in June. The height of hurricane season in Caribbean or Mexico is September and the further you move away from that month, the less likely you are to have one. Not saying it couldn't happen, but the chances are less likely.
We have been 3 times now to the Barcelo Maya resort at the end of June to the beginning of July and have wonderful weather, although it is hot, but then all of the Caribbean would be hot in June.
All inclusive is basically your most cost effective way to do the Caribbean and drinks and food can be expensive in the Caribbean. With all inclusive also included is non-motorized water sports and some all inclusives motorized water sports are included, sports equipment is included as well as activities if you want and entertainment and most times snorkeling and even diving lessons are included. Each all inclusive resort is different in what they include so read the travel brochures or on line sites for the resort. Also, all you can eat or drink (both alcoholic and non alcoholic). Most all inclusives have at least a couple of ala carte restaurants that are included during your stay. Most all inclusives include tipping, but we usually tip to those who are very good to us, but it is not required. There are some very good all-inclusive resorts in this area of Mexico. Also, with all inclusive you will basically know what your vacation will cost before you go away and there will not be any big surprises on your hotel bill at the end of your stay, so it makes it easier to plan. If you want you can still go out for that special dinner once or twice during your stay and you are not tied to your resort as some would have you believe. Check out my second reply on the Aruba tripadvisor forum regarding how to get a great sell-off. It is cheaper than some other Caribbean destinations and the Barcelo Maya is very good value for the dollar.
Another destination to consider if you are watching your dollars is Punta Cana. The beach there is outstanding, but there is not much to do off the resort, and you must be very careful of the drinking water in Punta Cana and must drink and brush teeth with bottled water. The Mayan Riviera of Mexico is more forgiving and we usually brush our teeth with tap water and drink bottled water simply because the water taste better and we have never gotten sick. Most of the newer resorts in the Mayan Riviera have water purifications systems on site. There is a lot of culture and history in Mexico.
I found Aruba very commercialized/Americanized with almost every American fast food chain, a couple of American restuarants such as Hooters and Tony Romas, lots of highrises on the beach and personally I felt like I was on a beach in Florida with a Arizona landscape.
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Some of the outislands in the Bahamas would also work for you and your budget and the beaches are amazing there.
June will be HOT so bring lots of sunscreen.
I would suggest heading to a local travel agent, because they can offer you package deals that we would not know about. I would also tell them your plans for the trip and maybe the hotel will throw in some special things because it is a special trip.
All that said here are a couple of places you might want to check.
www.where2stay.com will list LOTS of islands, resorts and give you pricing for high and low season.
www.romorabay.com is a favorite place of mine. The accomodations are cute villas overlooking the bay, great food there and they will make it special, probably with a bottle of champagne.
Food in the carribean is expensive, because it has to be shipped in, and most of it is not locally grown, so figure that in your budget.
Some of the outisland, though the pricing on restaurants in not that much higher.
Harbour Island is pretty easy to get to, you can fly directly into Nassau either take the Fast Ferry over (very romantic trip) or a 15 minute flight.
There are also fun places for the evening and walking on the beach at night is very beautiful.
Hope this helps have a wonderful time.
June will be HOT so bring lots of sunscreen.
I would suggest heading to a local travel agent, because they can offer you package deals that we would not know about. I would also tell them your plans for the trip and maybe the hotel will throw in some special things because it is a special trip.
All that said here are a couple of places you might want to check.
www.where2stay.com will list LOTS of islands, resorts and give you pricing for high and low season.
www.romorabay.com is a favorite place of mine. The accomodations are cute villas overlooking the bay, great food there and they will make it special, probably with a bottle of champagne.
Food in the carribean is expensive, because it has to be shipped in, and most of it is not locally grown, so figure that in your budget.
Some of the outisland, though the pricing on restaurants in not that much higher.
Harbour Island is pretty easy to get to, you can fly directly into Nassau either take the Fast Ferry over (very romantic trip) or a 15 minute flight.
There are also fun places for the evening and walking on the beach at night is very beautiful.
Hope this helps have a wonderful time.
Aug 4th, 2005, 01:27 PM
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That is so romantic!!! Christie has given you some good sites on St. John. It can be done on a budget. Do you have a range? If you give us a range, we could give you even more suggestions. Also look at Caribbeandays.com. They list some cute little condos near Cruz Bay. They also average about $125/night so are also pretty economical.
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Philly:
The advantages of renting a villa are that you can save money buying food and preparing maybe breakfast and lunch at the villa.That's what we did and ate dinner out.You also will have alot more privacy.
We basically packed a cooler with sandwiches for lunch as we were out exploring most of the day.
Most villas have coolers,lounge chairs and towels that you can use for the beach.If you rent a villa check with the company to see if they are included.
Here is a nice cottage..not sure of the price but you could call and ask.Its a 5 minute walk to Francis bay which is a nice beach. www.stjohnusvi.org/new_page_2.htm after you get to this site click on "Honeymoon Cottage" it is fully AC which is needed in St John in June and looks very nice and private.
The advantages of renting a villa are that you can save money buying food and preparing maybe breakfast and lunch at the villa.That's what we did and ate dinner out.You also will have alot more privacy.
We basically packed a cooler with sandwiches for lunch as we were out exploring most of the day.
Most villas have coolers,lounge chairs and towels that you can use for the beach.If you rent a villa check with the company to see if they are included.
Here is a nice cottage..not sure of the price but you could call and ask.Its a 5 minute walk to Francis bay which is a nice beach. www.stjohnusvi.org/new_page_2.htm after you get to this site click on "Honeymoon Cottage" it is fully AC which is needed in St John in June and looks very nice and private.
Aug 4th, 2005, 05:36 PM
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Philly:
Forget that I ever recommended Beachcomber in Negril...it got very bad reviews.Marion on this board pointed that out to me.(thank god!)
If you are considering Negril(but hopefully St John) check out Idle Awhile or Couples resorts.
Forget that I ever recommended Beachcomber in Negril...it got very bad reviews.Marion on this board pointed that out to me.(thank god!)
If you are considering Negril(but hopefully St John
) check out Idle Awhile or Couples resorts.
Aug 5th, 2005, 05:52 AM
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I vote for Isla Mujeres, in Mexico with Playa del Carmen a close second and Akumal a distant third.
(All three are easy to get to from Cancun.)
They all three have what you want.
Good luck and congrats!
(All three are easy to get to from Cancun.)
They all three have what you want.
Good luck and congrats!
Aug 5th, 2005, 07:08 AM
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christiegr:
I love the idea of the villa, I'll definitely start looking at those sites you gave me for prices. How much are groceries on the island, like sandwich fixings, cereal, etc? And how much are restaurants for dinner? Also what should I expect to pay for a jeep rental? I'm trying to gauge how much it will cost in total to visit St. John. Even if we don't do that this time it sounds like something I definitely want to do in the future.
wantsomesun:
Good suggestion with the bahamas. Airfare is a lot cheaper there than most other places so I'll check it out, thanks.
Tuxedocat:
My hope is to pay no more than $2500. I may cut the trip down to 4 nights to make this possible.
Mexico is very tempting, since it's so much cheaper, but I feel like it's lacking in the romantic feel of a caribbean island.
I love the idea of the villa, I'll definitely start looking at those sites you gave me for prices. How much are groceries on the island, like sandwich fixings, cereal, etc? And how much are restaurants for dinner? Also what should I expect to pay for a jeep rental? I'm trying to gauge how much it will cost in total to visit St. John. Even if we don't do that this time it sounds like something I definitely want to do in the future.
wantsomesun:
Good suggestion with the bahamas. Airfare is a lot cheaper there than most other places so I'll check it out, thanks.
Tuxedocat:
My hope is to pay no more than $2500. I may cut the trip down to 4 nights to make this possible.
Mexico is very tempting, since it's so much cheaper, but I feel like it's lacking in the romantic feel of a caribbean island.
Aug 5th, 2005, 07:23 AM
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Also how would you all rate the sun on these islands in June compared to Florida's sun in July (around Tampa?) My girlfriend is a redhead, very fair skin, but she does OK in Florida using a lot of SPF 50.
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I agree that Mexico is not as romantic if you want a traditionally-exotic island with the lush hilly scenery.
The romantic villa suggestion is perfect as long as you don't expect her to cook!
We have stayed in a villa on several occasions, and you can't beat the privacy and feeling like you are the only two people in the world.
Try to get one with a pool and that is out of the view of others. Romance abounds! 
The romantic villa suggestion is perfect as long as you don't expect her to cook!
We have stayed in a villa on several occasions, and you can't beat the privacy and feeling like you are the only two people in the world.
Try to get one with a pool and that is out of the view of others.
Romance abounds!
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If you are looking for a house rental, I can suggest Island Realty on Harbour Island, they list all the houses on island and again you are talking off season so the pricing would be excellent.
If you don't know the outislands, Harbour Island was voted the #1 destination in the carribean by the Travel Channel, it looks very romantic, lots of homes dating back to the late 1700's, sort of a carribean Martha's Vineyard.
I'm a redhead and VERY fair, so I understand and using sun screen all the time I have not gotten burned, but don't go out in the hottest part of the day.
A nice thing about HI is you don't need to rent a car, everything is walkable, since the island is only 3 miles long by half a mile wide.
If you don't know the outislands, Harbour Island was voted the #1 destination in the carribean by the Travel Channel, it looks very romantic, lots of homes dating back to the late 1700's, sort of a carribean Martha's Vineyard.
I'm a redhead and VERY fair, so I understand and using sun screen all the time I have not gotten burned, but don't go out in the hottest part of the day.
A nice thing about HI is you don't need to rent a car, everything is walkable, since the island is only 3 miles long by half a mile wide.
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You might enjoy Timothy Beach Resort in St. Kitts. www.timothybeach.com
Located on the beach (Caribbean side), great place to lime with the locals, lots of great beach bars. Amazing sunsets.
For more information on the island visit www.islandimage.com
Located on the beach (Caribbean side), great place to lime with the locals, lots of great beach bars. Amazing sunsets.
For more information on the island visit www.islandimage.com
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Philly:
You could easily do dinner for about $50 since you stated that you both do not do apps.,desserts or drink much.If you end up on St John do another post for restaurant recommendations and we will be glad to assist.
For jeep rentals..I think that it would be around $300 for a week.I'm not sure about the smaller jeeps as we had to rent a Montero (the largest rental they had)we had 6 in our group.We used Delbert Hill the number is: 340-776-6637 (St John is part of the US so rates are same as other long distance.We have AT&T and it's .07 cents a minute.)I would ask for the best price on a rental for 2.
Groceries are usually about 25-40% more than at home.
As for the sun wear 50 sunblock and you and her should be fine.
If you go to Aruba..it is closer to the equator and has tradewinds so you could be getting burned and not even know it.Wear ALOT of sunblock.My husband and I got sunburned in Aruba because it's hard to feel the sun with the tradewinds.
Any more questions...just ask.
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You could easily do dinner for about $50 since you stated that you both do not do apps.,desserts or drink much.If you end up on St John do another post for restaurant recommendations and we will be glad to assist.
For jeep rentals..I think that it would be around $300 for a week.I'm not sure about the smaller jeeps as we had to rent a Montero (the largest rental they had)we had 6 in our group.We used Delbert Hill the number is: 340-776-6637 (St John is part of the US so rates are same as other long distance.We have AT&T and it's .07 cents a minute.)I would ask for the best price on a rental for 2.
Groceries are usually about 25-40% more than at home.
As for the sun wear 50 sunblock and you and her should be fine.
If you go to Aruba..it is closer to the equator and has tradewinds so you could be getting burned and not even know it.Wear ALOT of sunblock.My husband and I got sunburned in Aruba because it's hard to feel the sun with the tradewinds.
Any more questions...just ask.
Christie
