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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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Villa Rentals -- IMPORTANT - PLEASE read this before you go!!

I hate to spread fear...but there is an article in August 2006 Conde Nast Traveler magazine about the recent rise of burglaries and other crimes related to villa rentals primarily in Caribbean, but Europe as well.

Anyone thinking about renting or about to go on a villa rental vacation MUST read this article! There is a security checklist that is invaluable for your safety.

I checked CNT's website and this article is not on it...yet. They have July articles, but not August. Not sure if this will be on the website, but again...do yourself a favor and get the magazine from library or buy it..if you are renting a villa.

Hope this helps...
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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Thanks, Debi! I'm driving myself nuts trying to select the "perfect" villa in St. Barth's. I've felt this would probably be a safe destination, but I'm headed to get a copy of the magazine this afternoon.
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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Thank you very much. We have rented one in Carribbean. Will keep an eye out for the article.
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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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We're renting a villa for the first time in T&C in February. I have to admit that I've been a little concerned about it (since it's our first time and I really don't know what to expect) and I'll definitely check this article out.

Thanks for the info.
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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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I haven't read the article yet but just because the rental villa is situated on a tropical island among palm trees and the beach doesn't mean it can't be robbed or broken into by by unlawful people (the perpetrators can be locals or other tourists - you never know). While some islands are considered safer than others crime can and does happen anywhere so you should take the same precautions you do at home. Use common sense - don't leaves valuables unattended or out in plain sight (that's why most villas have safes), lock the doors when you are not in the house or when you retire for the evening (that's why there are locks on the doors).

It's actually pretty safe to rent a villa in the Caribbean. Think about it, there are literally 1,000's of rental villas & condos throughout the Caribbean and 10,000's of renters every year yet the number of reported villa break-ins is so low you hardly ever hear about it.

Take reasonable precautions and you'll be as safe or even safer on your vacation as you would at home.
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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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this is the link to the article

http://www.concierge.com/cntraveler/...p;pageNumber=1
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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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You are correct A_T, if common sense is used, all should be okay.

The article says just that...but also goes on to say that vacationers often leave the everyday good common sense at home when they go on vacation and do things they wouldn't ordinarily do at home...they let down there guard because they are in "paradise".

I offered this because it provides useful information for people to be aware of and to help ensure safety while on vacation.

And yes, the stats may be low given the # of rentals etc. But, IF it happens to you...the stats are meaningless...they are 100% for you.

Again, just trying to keep you all safe.

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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Thanks to Dick for posting the link. It was a very interesting article. I agree with your comment that if something untoward happens to you a low crime rate statistic means nothing.

Anyway, it was interesting to read the various comments how tourists sometimes leave their smarts at home when they visit vacation areas.
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Old Jul 25th, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Wow. Lots more crimes against tourists than I've heard about and on the "safe" islands, yet.

Maybe the whole Caribbean should consider Jamaican-style villas....the setup where a security guy/handyman/gardener and sometimes the whole staff live onsite....
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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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I read that article last night. It was an eyeopener. The article mentioned that these crimes are not rampant, but they do occur and are not reported too often. The rental agencies and owners, of course, don't want to publicize it. And the crimes happened in places that are not typcially associated with crime: Anguilla and Tobago for example. Slowly the villa owners are installing security devices and simple things such as fences.
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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Whenever I read articles like this one, it often surprises me that people frequently do things on vacation that they would never think of doing at home -- like picking up hitchhikers, leaving doors unlocked when they go out or go to bed, walking through unfamiliar neighborhoods alone at night, leaving cameras or other valuables unattended on the beach, etc., etc.

I thought that it was interesting that one villa owner quoted in the article said that he has a burglar alarm but that he stopped short of "intrusive" measures like grates on the windows. My wife and I own a home in St. Lucia and, although I wasn't crazy about the idea at first, we did choose to install grates on the windows and gates that you can lock at night on the French doors. We've discovered two things -- first, after the first day or so, you hardly notice that they are there and, second, most of the people who rent from us like the feeling of security that they provide (especially people who are travelling with young kids).

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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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The author has some excellent "common sense" observations. Regardless, I can sense an element of parnoia in both of his articles (check is Dangerous Waters & Piracy!). If you want real information (sorry about that)and not anecdotal stories, read about the yachties who cruise the Caribbean at this, well organized site:
http://www.caribcruisers.com/security.htm
The world is changing...EVERYWHERE Keep your heads up. Happy Trails. Richard.
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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Don't worry about safety on St Barts, it is the safest place in the world.

The check list simply doesn't apply to St Barts, no gates, no fences, no doors to living areas, no cameras, no alarms. No-one steals tv's, stereos or cars, no-one has ever been mugged and there are no "no go areas". Teenagers hitch, keys are left in cars....need I go on?

Just don't leave stuff lying around unattended lest it fall into a 12 year old's pocket.

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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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I too think that there is a bit of paranoia in the article. Of course if it happened to me, I wouldn't ever think that. But from the article:

"anecdotal accounts on online message boards suggest that minor thefts of wallets, cash, and other valuables are common at villas on large and small islands alike."

Sorry, but I really don't remember many, if any, anecdotal accounts here or on Frommer's, Travel Advisor, etc about valuables being stolen from a Caribbean villa (as opposed to a European villa). No way could it be described as "Common". I've rented many villas (Bahamas, BVI, St. Lucia, etc), never had a thing taken, not even a coin from the countertop.

The only theft I've heard (and experienced) is from suitcase, more than once, on layovers in San Juan Airport - not from a villa.

If I have to insist on window locks, lighting, and a safe, then I'm not goin' to that island!
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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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As it does go on to report, "most crimes are never reported to police -- often because the renters are embarrassed that they left doors and windows unlocked and didn't safeguard their valuables."

Perhaps this is why we've not seen much of this mentioned on here before now.

And again, just hoping that people will read the article and me made aware of the possibility of issues is what I was after....
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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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"BE" made aware....sorry about typo.
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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Joan - thank you for your post. We are renting a villa in T&C in Feb (Corriander Cottage) and it is our FIRST experience with this.

When I read this article, I have to admit a tad bit of panic and paranoia started to creep up on me.

While I'm one who always takes all safety precautions I can think of (the ones mentioned), it unnerved me to think of being robbed at gunpoint by someone who might THINK I had something valuable. I worried that just by the mere fact that we were renting a villa that someone might think that we were worth more than we really are!

I'm feeling quite a bit better after seeing posts like yours by so many experienced Fodorites who do rent villas and seem to have really enjoyed the experience.

Thanks again.
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Old Jul 26th, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Like Joan, we have rented many times and have never had a problem. The last time was on St. Barts and the villa agent brought us to our villa, doors and windows standing wide open. No need to lock, he said, it's very safe. We did at least lock the front door at night. Now, however, I have been reading of a rash of villa robberies in St. Barts that has everyone alarmed. We were looking at Vieques as our next possible villa destination, but there have been many posts on Trip Advisor and the Vieques board about the chronic petty theft problem there and my enthusiasm is waning. We will either stay at a compound, such as Evamar, a hotel or go elsewhere.
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Old Jul 27th, 2006 | 05:43 AM
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Oh Maggi, that is truly sad.
Make me queasy to think about. I guess each island in turn gets their "rash". Makes you wonder which island is next.

We rented last year on Nevis, and the strongest warning was to be sure always to keep the gate closed - so the goats wouldn't come in and eat the garden...
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Old Jul 27th, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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I appreciate your sentiment too, Joan, that we musn't submit to paranoia. If we did, none of us would ever travel. In our younger days, we blithely went everywhere without a second thought and survived. However, since the rental market is growing by leaps and bounds it would be a good idea that places which depend on tourism see that not only the tourists, but their own citizens are not in constant danger of petty theft, or worse. In some cases, such as the Dominican Republic, even the police, or people posing as police, could be the cause of concern. (I read it on the State Department's Consular Advisories page: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1103.html)
If they realize their tourism is suffering and did something about it, everyone would benefit. If I'm going to drop $2000 or more on a villa, plus car rental, plus food from local markets, I don't want to be in fear of being robbed.
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