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Old Jul 4th, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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Update on Shanghai Expo?

I'll be in Shanghai for a week in early August. I have a friend of a friend who is showing me the city -- he was an engineer or supervisor for some of the construction at Expo. He is suggesting I get a three day ticket and he will accompany me there -- he's been many times already but loves going and knows some of the "ins and outs". Is three days too much time to dedicate to the Expo when I've never been to China before? We're also talking about doing two day trips to other places (a water town and Hangzhou).
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Old Jul 4th, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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with so much to do in and around S, it would seem wrong to spend 3 days on one limited site, imo
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Old Jul 5th, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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If your friend knows the ins and outs, then one day should be plenty, especially if he can get you past the incredibly LONG lines at all the pavilions. We spent one day at the Expo in mid-May and found the crush of people tiring, and the lines 2-3 hours long just to enter a single pavilion. We talked with people who had endured the lines and most everyone said the insides were underwhelming travel promos for the countries. We spent our time just looking at the pavilions' architecture and enjoyed that. There is so much more to explore in Shanghai and its environs!
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Old Jul 12th, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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One day is nowhere near enough for the Expo (you'll see 1/4 at best) - it is vast. However on a limited time trip to Shanghai one day is enough to get the feel of the place. Don't queue - there is enough to see without wasting 1 or 2 hours to spend 10 - 15 mins inside a pavilion. Enjoy the exteriors, take a look at those without queues, take in a couple of shows (the African ones are great - especially the drummers from Burundi) and take in the atmosphere. I did get into the main pavilions on a couple of my trips by waiting until around 21.00 in the evening when the queues were virtually non-exisitent (however when the Expo is really busy even that isn't true). Go from ca. 12.00 thru 22.00 for a less stressful experience.
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Old Jul 12th, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Well, I was being vague, so my friend already got me a three day ticket (actually less I think that even two one day tickets). So maybe we'll just go in one evening, and also one afternoon, or maybe two.

I appreciate the idea that I won't see it all, but I suppose choosing between seeing A LOT of the Expo and seeing A LOT of Shaghai and the area -- I'd really prefer the latter.
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Old Jul 14th, 2010 | 03:57 AM
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I am in Shanghai now, just did the Expo today. I decided to buy a one day ticket and if I wanted to go back i would buy another one day. It would be cheaper than a three day ticket and I was quite sure I did not want to spend 3 days of the 5 I have here at the Expo. While I am glad I went, I will not be buying a ticket for a second day.
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Old Jul 14th, 2010 | 06:22 AM
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Sammie - thanks for that info. We will be going during the closing week of expo and we are spending a week in Shanghai
Will probably go for 1 day. Would you be kind enough to list a few highlights. Thank you
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Old Jul 15th, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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Ympepe - I will be glad to post more when I get home in about 10 days. Am working off iPad and know i'll be more complete with keyboard.
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Old Jul 16th, 2010 | 03:50 AM
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Thanks Sammie- looking forward to your insight.
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Old Jul 17th, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Patrick, Glad you have a friend in Shanghai to show you around, definitely go to a watertown and other cities too.

ympepe - We will be there around the same time, and will post a Shanghai GTG (get-together)topic on this board late September. If you are interested in joining us, please watch for it.
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Old Jul 18th, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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Thank you - I will.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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ympepe - Just back on US ground and am reporting in as promise. Great trip to China but will only hit Expo topic here.

I am glad I went but as said before, one day was enough for me. It was very hot and humid. It rained the two days before and was overcast so no blaring sun and that REALLY helped. The lines to the individual exhibits were very long - hours of people crammed in close together in winding lines. Remember there is a cultural difference as to personal space so you are packed in very close. If you leave a little space (for air) people just move ahead of you. And I'll admit, there is very little (if anything) for which I will stand in line for hours.

We went to two - Peru and South Africa. They were okay but honestly not worth the wait. We also went to a couple of the pavilions that were continent based - Africa, Central and South America. I've been to both Africa and Central/South America (admittedly many years ago) and thought they were good and no wait. I would do this for others had there been time and energy (mostly energy).

There's a shuttle on site, it's an electric golf cart type vehicle but seats about 10. Costs only about $2. We hopped on it at one end and rode it all the way to the other - great decision. I believe you can get off at different stops along the way. We got to see the place, look at the exterior of the exhibits, all the people and the etc. I'd say do it just for that reason alone.

I think we went in through gate 8 or 9. We had been at the opposite end (by USA) of the Expo from the China Exhibit and doubt we'd have made it there had we not ridden the cart. The China Exhibit exterior was very impressive as were a couple of other building - again the lines too long for me. Seeing this end of the Expo is a must.

We took the ferry across the river to the more corporate exhibits - kind of bland but wandered into the Chinese Private Enterprise Pavilion. We had no idea what we were going to see and understood very little about it all. However, at the end of the tour (it's short) they have a show (again, not too long) that was FABULOUS! It's hard to describe but I later learned the theme was cells so the balls that floated during the show must have been somehow reflective of that. Lights, music, special effects - outstanding. I'd say that was the best part of the Expo for me.

I don't know if you will have quite as many tourists in October. Through out our trip we saw many tours - bus after bus and most were Chinese. A fair number of students so perhaps they will be back in school but still a lot of non-student age tourists.

Plan on buying lots of cold water along the way, take an umbrella for shade or at least a hat. Maybe a fan and highly suggest wearing the type of clothing that athletes wear to wick away the moisture. We were very glad for that investment in clothing for all of China.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2010 | 03:51 AM
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October is a 'special' month at the Expo. Firstly because it is the Chinese National Day week (and that means the Expo will be absolutely crazily packed with the whole country on holiday - I would avoid it at all costs during that time) and secondly because it is the last month it will be open (closing on the 31st October) and there will be special performances, dignitaries visiting etc. Not the best month to visit the Expo. It will also be cooler than the extremely hot period of the Summer (mid July thru mid Sept) and that will attract more local residents.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2010 | 03:56 AM
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Forgot to mention - you can NOT take fluids into the Expo (the scanner WILL catch you !) but there are plenty of free water fountains around the Expo and personally I just take in an empty camel pack and buy some ice filled drinks from one of the food outlets and empty them into the pack (I bought mine from Burger King at US$1 per large drink) - stays cool for longer and no hassle carrying around your drinks.
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Old Jul 24th, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Sammie and ShanghaiMantra Most grateful for your time. Hadn't even thought about Chinese National Day week. Will investigate what that is.
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Old Jul 24th, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Hi Patrick and everyone, thanks for the comments. It answered one of the questions that I had. I plan to go to ShangHai for 4-5 days in September. Based on the comments, I plan on attending the Expo for 1 day as well and will do my best to look at the exteriors of the different pavilions.

Sammie, thanks for the wonderful pavilion report and tips!

The hotel conceirge said they can help me buy tickets for 160yuan + 20yuan service fee. But for children and elder tickets, I have to go and buy for myself. Do they ask for ID for elders ticket? Not sure if a driver license from the US will be accepted as I don't want to carry passports around.

Should I buy the standard ticket from the hotel or will the tickets be available when I arrive at Shanghai? Where are tickets available for purchasing? Should I just stand on line for them (I will need adults, elders, and children tickets - not sure if they are all different lines for these age groups).
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Old Jul 26th, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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Mashi_m,
Before you spend a lot of time and energy on where and how to get children and senior tickets look at how much of a savings it is. I am all for saving dough, but you don't want to spin over a few dollars. We opted for getting our tickets through the concierge at the 160 yuan (what is that, $23) and a 15 or 20 yuan service for all, not per ticket.
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Old Jul 27th, 2010 | 04:34 AM
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I do know that my "friend" in Shanghai has bought my senior ticket for me. He obviously did not have a senior ID for me.

I have expressed the concerns here about spending too much time there, and he agrees but feels he knows the "ins and outs" of how not to spend so much time in line. I'm hoping he is right.
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Old Jul 31st, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Hi Sammie,

Unfortunately the hotel said they can only purchase a standard ticket but that I must go on my own to purchase the senior and childrens fares (I wonder if ID check is the reason for this). So if I have to stand on line, I might as well go and get them all myself. I agree that a small service charge to pay is nothing if it can save me the pain of standing on line.

Do you know if it is the same ticket counter to purchase standard, senior, and children tickets or are there different counters for each age group? Thanks.
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Old Aug 4th, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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Arrived at Expo yesterday about 9:30, a little later than we had hoped. My Shanghai friend who has been there numerous times wore me out. We did 18 pavillions, including the multi-country African one and the multi-country Central/South American one. We got tickets on arrival for the cultural show at 7 PM in the huge arena, and that was a nice sit down break for an hour and half, followed by walking outside for the dancing waters show, then more pavillions including Australia, the last to close just before 11 when we left exhausted.

The senior tickets he bought for me without having an ID were 100 each (one day tickets) and no one checked ID when I used them either, just inserted them in the machine and entered.

We're thinking we want to go back maybe on Sunday and arrive early to reserve for the Chinese Pavillion and also do India, Taiwan, and a few of those in the Asia area which we didn't do. The longest we waited was an hour and 15 minutes for Russia, 2nd longest was maybe 20 minutes for US.

I'm not sure I'll be doing much walking today as we are staying in Shanghai and my feet feel like they could fall off any minute! I wish I knew how much I walked yesterday, but it was many, many miles. And it was incredibly hot -- I guess near 100 F.

It is the most organized of any such event I've ever seen, lots of resting places, lots of restrooms conveniently located and kept spotless, stations for free drinking water, tons of trash containers, and lots of people always cleaning up everywhere. Also plenty of information spots if you need it, and lots of transportation from area to area.
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