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May 29th, 2013, 07:43 AM
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No trains from Thailand to Burma, and the trains in Burma are very slow (much slower than buses) and uncomfortable. You cannot enter Myanmar overland at this point (except to visit a border town) and have to fly into either Yangon or Mandalay.
Hanuman is Thai and has been to all of these countries, Thursdays has been to all of these countries, I've been to all of these countries.
You need some good guidebooks to do some basic research on these places. The Lonely Planet guides are available in electronic formats. They have a SE Asia on a Shoestring guide that covers all of these countries, but I don't know if it has been updated in recent years.
Hanuman is Thai and has been to all of these countries, Thursdays has been to all of these countries, I've been to all of these countries.
You need some good guidebooks to do some basic research on these places. The Lonely Planet guides are available in electronic formats. They have a SE Asia on a Shoestring guide that covers all of these countries, but I don't know if it has been updated in recent years.
May 29th, 2013, 07:52 AM
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@ Kathie: thanks I must go by plane from Thailand to Burma. Ok i will study it well to make a good trip. Just incase i will go for the 3 to 4 days offer of some travel agencies.
But to the itinerary listed above it's possible? let's say 30 days?
But to the itinerary listed above it's possible? let's say 30 days?
May 29th, 2013, 09:00 AM
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Ignore the 3-4 day offers. That's just enough to time see one place per country, and you need more than that per country. Not sure where you're from, but travel in Asia is slow unless you fly, and if you fly you miss a lot, and even then it will take at least half a day for each transfer.
If you're asking whether the itinerary you posted is possible, I don't know. I quit reading after I saw Bagan and Inle Lake on the same day.
For an example of what is sensible (and this is with a tour company, might be slower doing it yourself), this is 14 days in Vietnam:
http://www.intrepidtravel.com/vietna...dventure-49285
If you're asking whether the itinerary you posted is possible, I don't know. I quit reading after I saw Bagan and Inle Lake on the same day.
For an example of what is sensible (and this is with a tour company, might be slower doing it yourself), this is 14 days in Vietnam:
http://www.intrepidtravel.com/vietna...dventure-49285
May 29th, 2013, 09:25 AM
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No, your itinerary is entirely unrealistic. And in each place, you often haven't listed the most important places to visit.
For instance, your day 1 in Phuket, you list an elephant show - Phuket is a beach resort, not the place to see an elephant show. If you care about how elephants are treated you don't want to go to any elephant show. If you want to interact with elephants, you'll need to go to one of the two reputable elephant parks outside of Chiang Mai. And Old Phuket Town is of little interest. If you aren't interested in the beach, skip Phuket. Also, rather than the long train ride, consider the short hop on Air Asia, a budget airline.
In Bangkok, you list "ancient tour." Do you mean the Ancient City? If so, it's a theme park - why not see the real thing? At a minimum you'll want to visit the Grand Palace/Temple of the Emerald Buddha, Wat Pho and Wat Arun. These are all clustered on the river, easily accessed by the public water taxi. And your second Bangkok day you are going out of town. With so little time in Bangkok, you'll want to spend the next day in the city - skip the Floating Market and the River Kwai.
Your ideas for Burma are impossible. If you wanted to go to the Golden Rock, it is at least a full day trip, usually an overnight trip. Of course, you cannot see both Bagan and Inle Lake in one day. If you opt for Balloons over Bagan, are you aware of how expensive it is? And transport from place to place in Burma takes time, even if you opt for overnight buses.
It will take a full day to get from Inle Lake to Laos even if you fly and can make the connections work.
These are just examples of what is impossible in your proposed itinerary.
For instance, your day 1 in Phuket, you list an elephant show - Phuket is a beach resort, not the place to see an elephant show. If you care about how elephants are treated you don't want to go to any elephant show. If you want to interact with elephants, you'll need to go to one of the two reputable elephant parks outside of Chiang Mai. And Old Phuket Town is of little interest. If you aren't interested in the beach, skip Phuket. Also, rather than the long train ride, consider the short hop on Air Asia, a budget airline.
In Bangkok, you list "ancient tour." Do you mean the Ancient City? If so, it's a theme park - why not see the real thing? At a minimum you'll want to visit the Grand Palace/Temple of the Emerald Buddha, Wat Pho and Wat Arun. These are all clustered on the river, easily accessed by the public water taxi. And your second Bangkok day you are going out of town. With so little time in Bangkok, you'll want to spend the next day in the city - skip the Floating Market and the River Kwai.
Your ideas for Burma are impossible. If you wanted to go to the Golden Rock, it is at least a full day trip, usually an overnight trip. Of course, you cannot see both Bagan and Inle Lake in one day. If you opt for Balloons over Bagan, are you aware of how expensive it is? And transport from place to place in Burma takes time, even if you opt for overnight buses.
It will take a full day to get from Inle Lake to Laos even if you fly and can make the connections work.
These are just examples of what is impossible in your proposed itinerary.
May 29th, 2013, 09:39 AM
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vinespino, The reason "If this is Tuesday, It must be Belgium" type tour companies can do it so fast is that usually they rent a big bus, load everyone on board and talk to everyone as the bus drives by most sites. When they do stop, the guests have 45 minutes to "absorb " all the wonders of, say, Angkor Wat. The company does not stop to ask directions, does not have to stand in line for tickets, and feeds the tourists at the mot convenient banquet size restaurant, no matter how boring the food. They put the tourists in generic hotels that are on the outskirts of towns so they can get on the road earlier each morning.
A traveler might enjoy chatting with one of the local residents, perhaps even having a beer and some noodles at a tiny street stall, where they could never handle a bus load of tourists. He might stay at a little inn in the center of town so he can walk to the night spots, and might decide to sleep in one morning then relax by a pool in the brutally hot & humid April weather.
Are you looking to feel SE Asia, to perhaps even experience a bit of local culture? You cannot do 5 countries in 15 or 20 days unless you just rush through collecting passport stamps (and expensive visas).
A traveler might enjoy chatting with one of the local residents, perhaps even having a beer and some noodles at a tiny street stall, where they could never handle a bus load of tourists. He might stay at a little inn in the center of town so he can walk to the night spots, and might decide to sleep in one morning then relax by a pool in the brutally hot & humid April weather.
Are you looking to feel SE Asia, to perhaps even experience a bit of local culture? You cannot do 5 countries in 15 or 20 days unless you just rush through collecting passport stamps (and expensive visas).
May 29th, 2013, 10:42 PM
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@ thursdaysd: ok what if i will go for one month for this 5 countries I will be possible? yah i guess I will take one plane only from thailand to Burma the rest by bus or train and make it on night travel to consume my time. I'm alone btw, perhaps I'm looking for a travel buddy. I guess if that only the concerns bagan and Inle in one i can make it in seperate day. Thanks a lot.
May 29th, 2013, 10:49 PM
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@ Kathie: thanks I dont like beach coz we have there in philippines. Particullary I want to see about culture, people and food. Ok if I will extend it in one month tour It will be possible? I dont have any idea but to see it's enough and i dont want to ride it. What I've said that is my first itinerary and now I'm looking for a reality for the help of you guys. SO i will re write it again for the best trip. so just incase If it's free can you help to plan it? thanks
May 29th, 2013, 10:55 PM
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@ Hi Icuy: I guess in one of those countries you will not be able to go any city coz they're offering the same thing. So my idea is to go atleast in 3 major cities per 5 days I guess it will enough. Regarding visa I'm asian so I'm free to enter for those countries. About weather If april is not good any suggestion? june to aug is rainy season.
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