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Old Dec 16th, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Six month India trip (based on weather)

Six month India trip (based on weather)

I am considering an India trip (lasting up to 6 months) based on clarity/visibility, and light (weather). This is a natural/landscape photography tour of India. I need to avoid downpours that limit visibility of shots, and also I don't want to be too hot, and humid (as to make day trips unbearable). To give you an idea, I found walking around during the middle of summer in the Balkans too hot.

Before entering India, this is how/where I am going to travel:

-Iran (March-June)
-After Iran, fly to Tajikistan, overland to Kyrgyzstan (June/July)
-cross only border into China at Kyrgyztan and go down via Kashgar to Pakistani frontier (July)
-Pakistan, down to Islamabad (July)

After that, there are two options, or directions to take:

There are two ways this trip can happen

1) After Pakistan, Enter India at the Lahore/Amritsar borer crossing. Arrival is expected in mid-summer, therefore an immediate shift north to Kashmir would be a logical 2nd stop in India, after Amritsar, Jammu, and Srinigar are the next major towns north. After Kashmir, Himchal Pradesh, and Uttarchand are next up (due to high altitude), and mountains make sense in summer when everywhere else in India is hot, and flat. One worry is the monsoon. I know Kashmir is safe from it, but what about the other mountain states in India? How do I plan the route if arriving in India mid-summer?

note: It's pretty sure that Canadians get six month tourist visas at Indian missions abroad, right? 3 months would be the minimum I need, six months preferable.

2) The second option takes me to India in autumn, after a trip to China, Tibet, and Nepal. The difference with option 2 is that after entering Pakistan on the Karakorom highway, instead of crossing the border to Amritsar, I go back on the highway, back to the Chinese frontier, in a sense backtracking, re-enter China (extra visa cost, I know), and go to Xinjiang, Qinqhai provinces, or the Chinese desert, arrange a Tibet permit in Xining, take the train to Lhasa, and work down to Kathmandu arriving in Nepal in late September, avoiding the monsoon, and entering India in October.

Option 2 avoids the summer heat, and rains in India, but costs more because of the Tibet permit, expensive, long trains, often backtracking inside China, and touristy summer season in Lhasa, and the trip down to Kathmandu.

Option 1 cancels out touristy Tibet, and really long rides on buses/trains, but focuses on arriving in India in mid-summer.

So you can see that by late July/early August, I have to make a decision on option 1, or 2

Option 1 takes me into India in mid-summer, and if I get a 6 month visa, that means I need a route for summer, autumn, and early winter.

Option 2 takes me back up to China, around Xinjiang, and Qinghair, into Tibet (by September), then Nepal, and India (by October).

So the question is should I start the India trip in mid-summer, or in October.

Primary concerns are

-cost, especially expensive long-distance trains in China/Tibet, permits/multiple entry visas, etc...
-weather for clear photography

So which option makes more sense, costs less, and delivers more for my purposes in photography.

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Old Dec 16th, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Fellow Asia posters...before replying, see other postings by "shoeman" and his/her previous screen name of "sandy456" under Asia and Europe (notably the Norway airport posting).
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Old Dec 17th, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Don't ruin my threads
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Old Dec 17th, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Why not? You're just a scofflaw trying to get around visa requirements illegally, as innumerable threads on innumerable travel boards under several screen names attest.

Why should anyone help you break the law?
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Old Dec 17th, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Ahh, StCirq - we may have had our disagreements but I really do like you. Any woman who can use 'scofflaw' in a sentence deserves full and unfettered praise. Bravo!

Oh, and Sandy456, my little Persian Princess, Sandi, Shoeman, Traveling whatever or whoever you are today - I think your posts will probably be hijacked in Fodor's till you die. lol. Cruel and undeserved, I know. I think your enemies have critical mass, long memories and Google search. Sad but true. Nothing you can do now. It's too late.

You reap what you sew. This is the lesson, my little sausage - what goes around...
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Old Dec 17th, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Shoeman has morphed both in name and occupation...from sandy 456, the couchsurfing nomand in Norway, to shoeman, the future photographer extrodinaire of India!
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Old Dec 17th, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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I honestly don't think Shoeman/Sandy/Whatever has morphed any farther than from the puter screen to the fridge in the past umpteen months he's been on this hallucinatory voyage.

Dogster, I like you too. I'll even refrain from correcting your spelling as long as you refrain from using that "gal" word with me in the future. Deal?
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Old Dec 17th, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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LOL StCirq - from the 'puter to the fridge!

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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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Yes but I don't really need this forum, it's just one of many. If you think I have broken the law, then think that, but it's not true for every thread. As you can see, I am not asking for a way to break the law in India, so you're assertion is false.

Perhaps you don't know the answer to my questions, and therefore have nothing to add, so you destroy what you don't understand.

That's fine, as it's common for undeveloped minds such as yours. Eventually I will get the information I need, and your little efforts achive nothing, as I will always win in the end.

I am the immortal traveler, and not you, or your Google search, can ever dampen my inspiration to ask questions, gather knowledge, and put it all to good use.

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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 06:09 AM
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<<I am the immortal traveler>>

You got an extra consonant in there, Sandy.
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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 06:53 AM
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"<<I am the immortal traveler>>

You got an extra consonant in there, Sandy."

Maybe it was a typo for immoral?

After all, " If you think I have broken the law, then think that, but it's not true for every thread." But true for some....
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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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Exactly what I was referring to, Thursday.
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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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I think this is so wonderful it deserves an encore:

'...I will always win in the end.

I am the immortal traveler, and not you, or your Google search, can ever dampen my inspiration to ask questions, gather knowledge, and put it all to good use.'

Little sausage, you're sounding very young today, very Messianic indeed. A touch of the Barack Obama. It's sweet.

Alas, your search for knowledge hasn't led you yet to wisdom. Well, that's O.K. You're just a twink on the turn. Trust me - wisdom will come. It won't be pretty. I know your world.

Let me help you. There's just one thing you don't GET in the middle of all this. Do you know what it is? It's really simple. It's the clue to why you've been banned from all those other sites and why people continually harass you. It's SO simple.

You could solve all your problems in one go if you could work it out.

I wonder what it is?

Reflect upon this today, little sausage.
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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Sorry St. Cirq - not enough caffeine this morning.

Shoeman - I gave up on you back when you were trying to get into the UK, but it's always amusing to follow your travails.
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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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Shoeman, Sandy...

Maybe Santa will bring you a stealth airplane kit for Christmas and you can secretly fly to all of the destinations you write about.

No worries about visas, border crossings, unhelpful travel sites (LOL), nothing!

Wow...it's exciting just thinking about it!

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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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<i>I honestly don't think Shoeman/Sandy/Whatever has morphed any farther than from the puter screen to the fridge.</i>

For 'Whatever' you can certainly include persian_power, traveling_porcupine, song99, saren, Sandia911 and goodness knows who else. They're all (or he is) happy gaily trolling round the web in search of knowledge.

Incidentally in some non-travel forums that knowledge has included how to open many links on the web at one go and make multiple emailings (for jobs, of course).
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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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I find it really amazing that some of you follow my footsteps around the web, google my names, like a league of sick, devoted fans, and instead of answering my questions like decent members of an online community, you spend all your time, and energy gossiping.

Pitiful.

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Old Dec 18th, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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It only takes about 20 seconds a day, Sandy, for those of us who are truly expert internet researchers, to figure out what you're up to on any given day.

Don't give yourself so much credit. Rest assured most of us are putting in full-time effort at our regular jobs and finding time to answer legit questions on travel boards as well as figure out where in the world is Carmen SanShoeman today.

If only you had those skills you might actually be making some $$ off this fake voyage of yours.
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Old Dec 24th, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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Hahah, it's not fake, I know that what you want to believe, so believe it, but it's as real as the world itself.

And I make money on the road! Jealous you can't? I understand.
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Old Dec 24th, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Hmmm...you can make money &quot;on the road&quot; you say. Well, there aren't too many &quot;occupations&quot; from which one can prosper while traveling country to country with no work permits!

Jealous? Not a chance.
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