Seeking hiking guide Kamikochi Oct 2023
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Seeking hiking guide Kamikochi Oct 2023
I am interested in working with an English-speaking hiking guide for a 3 day, night hut stay starting and ending in Kamikochi with a group of 10-12 adults.
The guides I have found (2 different ones) declined to take our group, as it seemed they might have been offended by my asking a few questions about liability insurance and safety that are required for my hiking group, and after several emails of confirming and asking questions they denied to continue the conversation even though I offered to pay a deposit and confirm the tour. Since this happened twice, I'm beginning to think it is a cultural thing that guides don't want to be questioned.
Although I believe this hike can be done without a guide, I feel like a guide would add value to our group for language and cultural reasons, and it is the beginning of the 2 week trip so having someone provide insight early for our group would be helpful then instead of at the end. Does anyone know a certified hiking guide/ company who would offer a 3 day guided tour out of Kamikochi for the Karsawa or Yarigtake tour.
Thank you!
The guides I have found (2 different ones) declined to take our group, as it seemed they might have been offended by my asking a few questions about liability insurance and safety that are required for my hiking group, and after several emails of confirming and asking questions they denied to continue the conversation even though I offered to pay a deposit and confirm the tour. Since this happened twice, I'm beginning to think it is a cultural thing that guides don't want to be questioned.
Although I believe this hike can be done without a guide, I feel like a guide would add value to our group for language and cultural reasons, and it is the beginning of the 2 week trip so having someone provide insight early for our group would be helpful then instead of at the end. Does anyone know a certified hiking guide/ company who would offer a 3 day guided tour out of Kamikochi for the Karsawa or Yarigtake tour.
Thank you!
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it seemed they might have been offended by my asking a few questions about liability insurance and safety that are required for my hiking group....
Although I believe this hike can be done without a guide, I feel like a guide would add value to our group for language and cultural reasons..
Although I believe this hike can be done without a guide, I feel like a guide would add value to our group for language and cultural reasons..
Also, 10-12 people can be a lot for one guide. Keeping an eye on everyone and/or having you all moving at the same pace is almost impossible for one person to do with that many.
FYI, in Japan every year lots of people, especially those who are slightly elderly and in groups, go out hiking thinking they are fit and fine, and then find they are under-prepared and have severe accidents. No guide wants to become famous in the news this way. It only takes one less-than-ready member (or one over-confident member) to cause a major problem.
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Thank you for those thoughts. I understand what you are saying. However, regarding the questions and liability insurance, it is required for the hiking club to which our group of hikers belong, and not an option. The organization has it's own liability insurance, and everyone who will be hiking has their own medical insurance, but the club requires that we ask the history of the guide company that we are hiring. Given the same concerns that you mention could be the potential hazards, I think you probably understand why they ask for that.
If you have recommendations for anywhere to find guides other than Viator or Explore-Share, please let me know.
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-Andrea
If you have recommendations for anywhere to find guides other than Viator or Explore-Share, please let me know.
Thank you!
-Andrea
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I am interested in working with an English-speaking hiking guide for a 3 day, night hut stay starting and ending in Kamikochi with a group of 10-12 adults.
The guides I have found (2 different ones) declined to take our group, as it seemed they might have been offended by my asking a few questions about liability insurance and safety that are required for my hiking group, and after several emails of confirming and asking questions they denied to continue the conversation even though I offered to pay a deposit and confirm the tour. Since this happened twice, I'm beginning to think it is a cultural thing that guides don't want to be questioned.
Although I believe this hike can be done without a guide, I feel like a guide would add value to our group for language and cultural reasons, and it is the beginning of the 2 week trip so having someone provide insight early for our group would be helpful then instead of at the end. Does anyone know a certified hiking guide/ company who would offer a 3 day guided tour out of Kamikochi for the Karsawa or Yarigtake tour.
Thank you!
The guides I have found (2 different ones) declined to take our group, as it seemed they might have been offended by my asking a few questions about liability insurance and safety that are required for my hiking group, and after several emails of confirming and asking questions they denied to continue the conversation even though I offered to pay a deposit and confirm the tour. Since this happened twice, I'm beginning to think it is a cultural thing that guides don't want to be questioned.
Although I believe this hike can be done without a guide, I feel like a guide would add value to our group for language and cultural reasons, and it is the beginning of the 2 week trip so having someone provide insight early for our group would be helpful then instead of at the end. Does anyone know a certified hiking guide/ company who would offer a 3 day guided tour out of Kamikochi for the Karsawa or Yarigtake tour.
Thank you!
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Thank you! I should mention, at this point, we are willing to waive that requirement of having liability insurance, but I don't have any other options than the two who said they aren't interested.
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The term to use is Sumimasen. Gokai shitemashita (please excuse the misunderstanding or confusion).
Best of luck!
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